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The casinos are killing themselves

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by kreome, Apr 8, 2007.

    Apr 8, 2007
  1. kreome

    kreome Dormant account

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    I can see something that is going on in the industry and can summarize that by 5 words "the casino are killing themselves"

    It is not the Government. Think about those facts.

    1. Playtech casinos stopped paying by NETeller. Now reasonable player wish to keep his privacy with his bank. He can do it only by depositing and getting paid by NETeller because they have a debit card to offer.

    Click2pay, citadel,moneybookers... which means your bank account is involved.

    Players are not stupid, do you think they will continue to deposit by NETeller there, the answer is NO. Odd policy from playtech side.

    2. Online casinos closed their service to Israeli players: Fortunelounge,bellerockgaming.... what is that ? There is no law in Israel against online gambling ? Inter casino works with everyone and making good money, because they are smart. Killing themselves, goodluck with that

    3. NETeller stop offering service to Canada, I thought in Canada online gambling is 100% legal. Now the problem is that it was probably the FBI that caused them to apply this rule, but this about it most online casinos are licensed in Canada, maybe their own NETeller are canadian, you know how problematic it is to stop giving those casinos the service, maybe this is the reason playtech can't have a NETeller account because they deal with Canada as well.

    4. Turkey... casino stopped giving service to Turkey.. Who cares about the Turkish Government, they are nothing . Do you think that Turkey which want to be part of the EU will ever arrest an online casino manager from Europe or the State, you are dreaming, never happening, another big mistake...

    5. Germany, never hapenning as well, they have to listen to what the EU has to say, so I am sure online gambling will continue to be an option here

    Who cares about Israel as well ? small country who has to fight the Arabs everyday in the press and everywhere, they have a bad reputation worldwide, you are dreaming if you think they are going to arrest any of the online gaming managers.

    And there is more and more, but I am not quite focused now.

    Think about this wierd policy, can someone who is closed to those managers and owners of casinos let them know that stuff..

    Thank you
     
  2. Apr 9, 2007
  3. Itoldyouso

    Itoldyouso Banned User - opted out from the forum, but keeps

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    Dude, what the hell have you been drinking?

    What powers do you have to enforce anything? NONE. You, yourself is stuck by the powers of your government. If Turkey as a muslim country doesnt wont online gambling. That's their Holy Right. But for you to say they are nothing is mean spirit. Who cares about Germany? We had to come over there and save them from themselves and knock down that wall. Israel has enough problems being surrounded by muslims. To even worry about online gambling. Canada is joining on to a North American Union and will soon follow the United States lead.

    Like most things, Unregulated Online Gambling has ran its course.
     
  4. Apr 9, 2007
  5. kreome

    kreome Dormant account

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    I agree with you 100%. They are criminals so act like criminals and hide.

    Decide what you want to be regulated and pay a lot of tax which from some reasons they dont want like what UK offered them.

    Or be criminals and don't be pussies.

    I haven't been driniking , I understand what is going on body
     
  6. Apr 9, 2007
  7. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Do you have any other conspiracy theories or misguided history lessons for us? Please post any credible evidence of this NAU over in wildcards, I'd like to look into it.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2007
  9. Itoldyouso

    Itoldyouso Banned User - opted out from the forum, but keeps

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    Where have you been? It's all over CNN news. Here is a few credible news cast. I've also posted numerous times about Mexico, Canada, and US signing the agreement. Search this forum.

    You must register/login in order to see the link. (CNN)

    You must register/login in order to see the link. (CNN)

    You must register/login in order to see the link. (AZ senator)

    You must register/login in order to see the link. (Full clip of NAU signing)
     
  10. Apr 9, 2007
  11. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I guess I've been under a rock :D

    Now THAT is a constitutional crisis. Nafta was bad enough, at least it was legal.

    Never to worry, not to panic. The States will stop it.

    I'll listen to Lou Dobbs, whether he is a propagandist or newsman, but the TCC? That's Jesse Helms and the lot - no credence in my book.

    Anyway, thanks for the links. If you want to start a thread in wildcards I'll chat with you there. As far as I can see there is no relation to this so-called NAU and online gaming as of yet.
     
  12. Apr 9, 2007
  13. Itoldyouso

    Itoldyouso Banned User - opted out from the forum, but keeps

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    YOU NEED TO STOP IT. NOT THE STATES! THE STATES ARE FEDERAL FUNDED. IF YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT, YOU WILL LOSE THIS COUNTRY AND ITS PRINCIPLES. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WILL DESERVE IT.
     
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  14. Apr 9, 2007
  15. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    This is most assuredly my last reply to you outside of wildcards, where I think most if not all your posts belong.

    I was going to leave this alone with just a 'thanks ...' but no. What is your gig? What is your interest in online gambling? I tend to think you are just a zealot who thinks you've found a flock to save or convert.
    :lolup: Next thing you'll be telling me I'm gonna burn in hell if I gamble. I read in one of your posts where you 'swore it off', and now I think you are proslytizing for the same reason anyone does; there's is something patently absurd in your belief system and you are trying to convince yourself of it through preaching your position. Sorry, the incongruency and out of synch vibe you feel will not go away until you address it personally.

    Good luck:thumbsup:
     
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  16. Apr 9, 2007
  17. EasyRhino

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    The banning of Israeli and Turkish players was probably not due to government pressure, but due to an unusually high population of scammers.
     
  18. Apr 9, 2007
  19. dominique

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    As far as I know it is illegal to gamble online in Turkey and Israel.
     
  20. Apr 9, 2007
  21. wangpoker

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    In my opinion, poker rooms are killing themselves too.
    5% rake is too high.
    most players are losers at this rate.
    poker rooms are losing players and have no momentum to get more traffic.
    under current circumstances this rate be lowed to keep existing players.
     
  22. Apr 10, 2007
  23. kreome

    kreome Dormant account

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    It is not illegal to gamble online in Israel. It is illegal since February 27 to gamble online in Turkey.

    This whole in industry is illegal. Do casino check for the source of money they accept ?

    Lets say I have 10M and I wish to keep it somewhere and use it some day.

    I will put some of the money in reputable casino play a little and here and there withraw what I need.

    Do you think they care ? Bodog, inter, 32red... the money is safe but did they check the source of the money ?

    They are all illegal. All I am saying, haven't you watch movies ? Don't u know how illegal operations act ?

    Just stop being pussies go hide somewhere and continue to offer bets.

    NETeller... 32red 32black Palace of no chance, mismillions , mishundreds....49ers that has just closed, inter...

    All of them are not kosher if you know what I mean
     
  24. Apr 10, 2007
  25. kreome

    kreome Dormant account

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    And by the way

    Aren't there Poker rooms that take much less than 5% ?

    5% is way too much , who can overcome the house advantage ?

    Wow, I thought it is possible to make money from Pokers witha bonus

    I have not tried it yet , is it possible with that kind of commission ????
     
  26. Apr 10, 2007
  27. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I think he was referring to 'live' poker games. In that situation players are competing against each other, not the house. The house takes a 'rake' of x% from wins in consideration of providing the venue, etc. It's not like video poker where you are competing against the computer.

    Hope that helps :)
     

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