The 5 million Euro Gold Rally Jackpot has been won, anybody knows where?

[KasinoKing]

did the answer ever surface?

CasinoMeister is STILL not one of the 276 people who have looked at this thread...
He has been asked several times.

KK

 

[fun4all]

This really does deserve some questions/answers. Just seems super shady.

 

[Gaz237]

CasinoMeister is STILL not one of the 276 people who have looked at this thread...
He has been asked several times.

KK

May be Casinomeister won it

 

[Finn]

This is harder to do with this slot than with many other progressives. The biggest issue that there is no autoplay. Also the animation is long and cannot be interrupted, and the max bet is "only" 18 €/£/$. So you can't throw in money as fast and as efficiently and comfortably in this slot than in many other progressive slots.

Maybe someone tried to do this, and used macros to run this slot 24/7 on several casinos, and was caught and Playtech confiscated the jackpot because of this.

Since there seems to be autoplay option behind the Menu section in this game at most casinos at least, I guess there is no reason for a rich jackpot hunter to cheat with macroing at this game, so that takes away one possible scenario.

 

[Finn]

I searched, but couldn't find anything about this. Very suspicious.

I DID find out about some poor sod who who $1.5 million on the same game at Titan Casino (Rogue!) in May last year.
With their ridiculous $10K/month cash-out limit, that guy still has another TWELVE YEARS to wait for the casino to give him the money which NEVER BELONGED TO THE CASINO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Makes me want to vomit!

KK

Also someone from Chile won $1,378,389.83 in Fanstastic Four slot in November 2011 at Titan Casino. So it will take 11 years and 7 months for that person to get his money, meaning he has received only $320k of that jackpot thus far and will have to wait until summer 2023 to get the whole jackpot...

 

[maphesto]

CasinoMeister is STILL not one of the 276 people who have looked at this thread...
He has been asked several times.

KK

I sent him a message recently and now he has seen it.

 

[hoff1985]

Someone must be able to give an answer here? I mean WTF... I know that there are a lot of shady Playtech casinos, still the software is probably technically one of the best casino softwares out there, and they must care at least a bit about their reputation!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Someone must be able to give an answer here? I mean WTF... I know that there are a lot of shady Playtech casinos, still the software is probably technically one of the best casino softwares out there, and they must care at least a bit about their reputation!

Clearly not.

Looks more like they hope that if they keep quiet the issue will be forgotten, and players will stop worrying where all that money went.

€5 million is rather a large sum to simply vanish without trace, and is hardly the "transparency" that builds trust among operators and players.

If they cared about being open and honest, there would have been an official statement long ago.

 

[michielm1]

club cold maybe, and the they pissed the lot and ran off to new software

on a serious not though...

if all members looks on their countries' IRS - facebook pages, youll find out where the happy bstrds are waiting 2 collect them some taxes

 

[dusky]

Pretty disgusting that this thread has now been open for coming up to 1 year to be met with a wall of silence.

The owner of Playtech is hardly a saint either...

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[catapultaudio]

I never heard about this at the time but I'm really gobsmacked now ... what can we do about it as a community? With CMs help surely there is something?

 

[maphesto]

what can we do about it as a community?

We can play elsewhere...

Seriously, I think Bryan should contact some Playtech friends, let them come with an explanation.

 

[jshort]

We can play elsewhere...

Seriously, I think Bryan should contact some Playtech friends, let them come with an explanation.

I think Bryan should respond to this thread

However given that he hasn't, my guess is that it isn't the meisters role to pursue suspicious fraudulant acts that haven't affected any single player PERSONALLY.
If someone came on the forum and started complaining that they had their 5 million win stolen from them, its a different story. Other than that, I'd imagine that from a business perspective, pressuring Playtech could also result in the loss of a potential customer so pursueing this for a reason that may not strictly fall under his job duties/requirments just isn't worth it.......just my two cents

 

[vinylweatherman]

I think Bryan should respond to this thread

However given that he hasn't, my guess is that it isn't the meisters role to pursue suspicious fraudulant acts that haven't affected any single player PERSONALLY.
If someone came on the forum and started complaining that they had their 5 million win stolen from them, its a different story. Other than that, I'd imagine that from a business perspective, pressuring Playtech could also result in the loss of a potential customer so pursueing this for a reason that may not strictly fall under his job duties/requirments just isn't worth it.......just my two cents

It has potentially defrauded ALL players who have played this game, and if unchallenged, could lead to Playtech thinking it's OK to carry on behaving like this.

All that is needed is transparency, a reasonable explanation of what happened to the money after it was "won", and why we have the most peculiar situation whereby no casino wants to claim responsibility for having some $5 million won from their site

 

[catapultaudio]

I think Bryan should respond to this thread

However given that he hasn't, my guess is that it isn't the meisters role to pursue suspicious fraudulant acts that haven't affected any single player PERSONALLY.
If someone came on the forum and started complaining that they had their 5 million win stolen from them, its a different story. Other than that, I'd imagine that from a business perspective, pressuring Playtech could also result in the loss of a potential customer so pursueing this for a reason that may not strictly fall under his job duties/requirments just isn't worth it.......just my two cents

Well thats just not acceptable IMO. The person who started the thread stated they had invested a fortune trying to win this progressive jackpot - it was WAAAAY outside its usual boundaries when it was won this time, there will most likely have been many players like the OP who figured it was a super +EV opportunity. I did play a little at the time but not enough that I cared what happened when the jackpot disappeared, but now I know I paid even a penny into that progressive pot, and it was stolen, it REALLY bothers me.

 

[dunover]

There seems to be a lot of rabble-rousing going on here.

1. We don't know if it has been 'stolen'.
2. We don't know if it has been won and paid quietly.
3. If (2) applies then people are assuming that the event is dodgy because they haven't heard about it.
4. Instead of speculating maybe somebody contact the IOM authority and ask them to investigate.
5. Maybe contact Playtech and ask them, before asking CM to do it?

I must admit that PT do not have a good reputation by allowing casinos to have huge jackpots then withhold them from the winning player for years. I do not play at Playtech sites as they are associated with too many rogues.

The main essence of this thread is speculative until somebody who's that bothered about it makes proper enquiries.

 

[jshort]

If you we're running a business where Playtech was one of your customers and none of their players (who are also your "customers" so to speak) filed
a PAB, would you pursue them?

Perhaps the OP should('ve) filed a PAB. Actually perhaps all of you who have played this jackpot should file one collectively?

I'm not sure, but from the 7-8 months I've been a member here, my impression is that Casinomeister doesn't pursue fraudulent casinos whenever a PAB HAS NOT been filed. However if I'm wrong here, I'd love to be enlightened

 

[Finn]

2. We don't know if it has been won and paid quietly.

Most Playtech casinos reserve even the right to use the first name of progressive winners for promotional purposes, I don't really see Playtech and the casino going along with some nutty paranoia, unless the winner chose to pay off Playtech and the casino from the jackpot, to compensate for missed PR and the damage that this secrecy around the case of this jackpot is causing Playtech.

You can tell the name of the casino and something about the winner without compromising the identity of winner at all and ask the winner to give interview, where he tells nothing of himself, just about his feelings when he won the jackpot and how that slot, that casino and Playtech are awesome.

Here could be shortened and less formal versions of press release and interview

On November 30th, 2013, a middle aged guy from UK playing at *insert Playtech casino's name* won the largest Gold Rally jackpot, the second largest Playtech jackpot ever.

Interview of the winner:

When I won it, at first I couldn't believe it, then when it started to sink in, I couldn't get a sleep until 5 AM. Especially after this, Gold Rally is definitely my favorite slot, Casino X is awesome and Playtech is awesome.

Now, to get Playtech and the casino where it was won to go along with some nutty paranoia, and not to release this kind of information that doesn't really compromise the identity of winner in anyway, the winner would have had to paid the casino and Playtech pretty big chunk of the jackpot. I don't think this is likely.

 

[SlotMonster]

I know Casino X which uses Microgaming platform, but never heard about Casino X on Playtech

 

[Finn]

I know Casino X which uses Microgaming platform, but never heard about Casino X on Playtech

I didn't know that casino X even existed.

Edited it now and replaced casino X with *insert Playtech casino's name*, since I didn't want to use any real casino in this example, because I didn't want to associate any casino with this jackpot mess.

 

[michielm1]

Was it heavychips or chipspalace ...? Omfg then u r gonne be screwed . Maybe deposit back

 

[jshort]

It has potentially defrauded ALL players who have played this game, and if unchallenged, could lead to Playtech thinking it's OK to carry on behaving like this.

All that is needed is transparency, a reasonable explanation of what happened to the money after it was "won", and why we have the most peculiar situation whereby no casino wants to claim responsibility for having some $5 million won from their site

Well I'm not trying to justify Playtechs action here, but perhaps they feel that 5 million justifies the financial loss of having their reputation take another hit. Smart business decision then if this is the case

As for Casinomeister, their ultimately a business too and for reasons already suggested/guessed, can't financially justify jumping into this fray.

 

[Finn]

As for Casinomeister, their ultimately a business too and for reasons already suggested/guessed, can't financially justify jumping into this fray.

I don't think there is much Casinomeister can do, Playtech already got many "worst" awards in "Best and Worst in Online Gambling for 2013", maybe give even more of them in 2014 edition?

https://www.casinomeister.com/static/meister_awards/bestworst2013.php

Many Playtech casinos are blacklisted for being rogue and many are on not-recommended list for predatory progressive withdrawal terms.

There are few Playtech casinos where playing progressive jackpot games is as safe as in any NetEnt or Microgaming casino. As software provider Playtech might be somewhat evil, but their actual software in itself isn't anymore evil than any other software. So Casinomeister can not really give anykind of "Drop Playtech or lose your accreditation" ultimatum, nor should they. That wouldn't work, accredited Playtech casinos wouldn't do that since dropping off any software provider can really piss off existing customer base, and it would be unfair towards honest Playtech casinos and players who want to play Playtech at reliable casinos.

 

[jshort]

I don't think there is much Casinomeister can do, Playtech already got many "worst" awards in "Best and Worst in Online Gambling for 2013", maybe give even more of them in 2014 edition?

https://www.casinomeister.com/static/meister_awards/bestworst2013.php

Many Playtech casinos are blacklisted for being rogue and many are on not-recommended list for predatory progressive withdrawal terms.

There are few Playtech casinos where playing progressive jackpot games is as safe as in any NetEnt or Microgaming casino. As software provider Playtech might be somewhat evil, but their actual software in itself isn't anymore evil than any other software. So Casinomeister can not really give anykind of "Drop Playtech or loose your accreditation" ultimatum, nor should they. That wouldn't work, accredited Playtech casinos wouldn't do that since dropping off any software provider can really piss off existing customer base, and it would be unfair towards honest Playtech casinos and players who want to play Playtech at reliable casinos.

I agree with you (sort of); Certainly they couldn't drop any one Playtech casino for this....

However Casinomeister COULD acknowledge this problem or this thread and Maxd could (if necessary) issue an official warning statement about progessive jackpots at Playtech casinos. The fact that they haven't done any of this (and we all know everyone has seen this thread) leads me to ponder that the reason must be business/financial related and/or because it isn't official policy to investigate suspicious activities when no PAB has been issued.

 

[maxd]

However Casinomeister COULD acknowledge this problem or this thread and Maxd could (if necessary) issue an official warning statement about progessive jackpots at Playtech casinos. The fact that they haven't done any of this (and we all know everyone has seen this thread) leads me to ponder that the reason must be business/financial related and/or because it isn't official policy to investigate suspicious activities when no PAB has been issued.

Let's not beat around the bush, you're saying that we're on the take or get some financial reward for not outing whomever it is you think we should be outing. If that is what you believe then why are you still here? The only reason I can imagine is that you think you're on some crusade to expose our wrong-doings or whatever. Right, well, you are cordially invited to take your dirt elsewhere and the Posting Rules tell you why:

1.19 - Posting defamatory comments or conducting malicious attacks directed at Casinomeister: members who slander, post defamatory comments or other personal garbage directed toward the Casinomeister brand, its owner, employees, or moderators, anywhere on the Internet will be swiftly booted from the site. Spamming, DDoS attacks, or any other criminal activity will be dealt with as well.

The truth is that (a) Bryan is very busy these days and may well not have had the time to look at this seriously, assuming he would feel it needs serious looking at to begin with and (b) I do PABs and from those PABs come the Warnings I issue. If you want to raise the flag on something you have two options: (1) Report the thread in question or (2) start a PAB. AFAIK you have done neither, yet you're willing to come on the forums and call us bent based on nothing more than your "pondering". That's troll behaviour and if that's really where you want to go then, again, the door is where you are headed (if not the curb).

Either be constructive and DO SOMETHING to raise the issue you apparently feel needs attention or bugger off and do your dirt somewhere else.

PS. before you try the "I have a PAB so I had no option" approach I remind you that we are ALWAYS willing to entertain requests for exceptions. No guarantees that we'll grant the exception but if you make a good case there's a good chance we will. Site veterans know this and before you start talking trash about us you should avail yourself of their expertise. Assuming that you know better and are at liberty to crap on us and our reputation is an error on both counts. Repeat this kind of behaviour and we'll escort you off the premises without hesitation.