"The '06 NBA Playoffs"

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what happened to ed o bannon?

he had a brother too as fas i remember. i never heard of ed in tne nba. did he quit bacause of some sort of injury


Ed O'Bannon did in fact play in the NBA for 2-years - if you want to call it that - and pursed just under $4 million big ones in that time. Actually, he was paid for 3-years in total, but he didn't actually play in the '97-98 campaign because he was so banged-up by that point. His career never really happened because he had knee and leg problems prior to the '95 Lottery Draft. While it's true that he never did play even 20 min per game with N.J., his projected numbers over 40 min per game are quite awful actually. He was a great college player for sure, and he had tons of hype around him after his days with UCLA, but he was totally a college legend... nothing more.


His brother Charles, managed to be drafted by the PISTONS back in '97, and did in fact play 2 years before jumping to play overseas (from what I seem to recall reading). Like Ed, his numbers projected over 40 minutes weren't good either. He was only a role-player in the times where he did make an appearance.


and there was the duke dio: cherokee parks and eric meek

never heard of them in Europe either


Eric Meek was drafted in the 2nd round of the '95 draft by the Houston Rockets, but he never made the team. I'm pretty sure he played overseas for at least a couple seasons, and he was someone who jumped around the minors. I'm sure by now, he's completely off the radar.


Cherokee Parks DID have a career though. A good one? No. He's often pointed to as being a major joke. He was also selected in the '95 draft, although he was a Lottery Pick, selected in the 12th spot by DALLAS. He managed to get paid in 9-years, pulling-in just under $12 million in that time which was probably all used-up to cover his body with tattoos. His claim to fame - aside from his being a "name" at DUKE - was his commercial w/Kevin Garnett and "The FUN Police". I've certainly seen worse players over the years, but he sure got a lot of "Koncak" in his career. ;)


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Tdoggy

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Well Dwayne Wade proves he is the man. He put his team on his back and has won the last three games because of his greatness. Many people if had to chose between him K. Bryant, and L. james have chosen D. Wayde and we can all see now why. This guy wants his team to win and is willing to step up and make it happen. Now the big question can he steal one at Dallas? If he can then he is the Finals MVP and Miami goes home champions. Great game last night, but what a show put on by D. Wayde!!! Wow

where was Dirk???? Another bad shooting night from the whiteman from Germany....

Terry with a huge game...

And no stack hurt them...Devan Harris just couldn't replace him....

Dallas in big trouble. Lucky for them they go home for the next two games.... Boo to the new NBA finals setup...Would be much more exciting the old way :-(

Looking forward to the next game.... Pat Riley is one of the best coaches ever. He has figured out the Mavs....

I want to see a team finally come back from 0-2 and win it all!!!!

Go Miami!!!

4-2??? Knew that wouldn't happen....;)
 

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Looking forward to the next game.... Pat Riley is one of the best coaches ever. He has figured out the Mavs....


Outside of a couple of legendary football coaches, I would have to think that Pat Riley is the greatest motivator in pro sports over the past 50-years. Maybe not the greatest X's and O's coach (Doug Collins), not the greatest taskmaster (Larry Brown), not the greatest coach at getting great players over the hump (Phil Jackson), not the greatest at getting his players to best understand the fundamentals of basketball (Hubie Brown), but he is on another level for his motivational skills. George Karl has a bit of that talent, but his act grows thin, and he doesn't get as much respect as Riley would. If anything, I don't think there's any coach in any sport on the pro-level in North America that stands out as such a presence. Heck, the character "Gordon Gekko" was created by Oliver Stone with Pat Riley in mind (to play the part).


I happen to think that Riley's talents of motivation could have him coaching any sport. He's pretty much been the icon as to how good a coach could look in a 3-piece suit. :notworthy


Riley sorta' fell off everyone's radar in the last couple of years with the HEAT prior to the Stan Van Gundy years. The Mourning/P.J. Brown/Tim Hardaway years seemed productive, and completely draining. For those who think that Riley is simply a fast-break coach from his LAKERS days, clearly forgot everything he had done with above-average line-ups in the '90s, and how well he was able to squeeze every drop of defense out of them. The man can coach, and he doesn't need Ted Winter setting-up all of his plays.


I'm glad to see Riley back on the radar.

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Hmmm... While the series certainly isn't over, it's REALLY surprising to me that SHAQ hasn't had one SHAQ'esque game thus far. He did it in the N.J. series, and again against the PISTONS. What's up with not being able to do it again? I can't believe that Wade has been this "consistently" great 3 games in-a-row, on that M.J. level (well... as close as anyone is going to get).


Back to the point though, I think the HEAT could stay in the hunt as contenders for at least another year, provided that SHAQ could maintain what he's been doing lately WITH Wade continuously doing the unthinkable. But... that'll be pretty hard for Wade to consistently do w/o getting injured in the process. I think they need to convince Mourning to stay on as long as SHAQ is there. Sure, they're a bit long-in-the-tooth for b-ball (hardly the case as regular people walking the street), but they make a pretty effective and beefy tandem.


I'm thinking though, regardless if SHAQ gets in incredible shape or not (which he won't do regardless), that he'll ever be a 20/10 guy again in his career. He may be a 18 and 12 guy (PERFECT!!!), or a 22/9 guy, but the days of 20/10 as far as I'm concerned are probably done. What's really a shame, is that he could still be a 25/11 guy at this stage of his career if he had developed an effective way to launch free-throwns. Think about that for a moment. If he could be trusted in crunch time, he'd get another 5-6 touches at the end of games. If he was even able to increased his FT% to 70%, that would be enough to be counted on. As it stands, he's a liability at the charity stripe, so he's not getting as many touches as he SHOULD (COULD) be getting.


As far as SHAQ's inability to not be more of a force on the boards, well, everyone has to be disappointed by what he never really developed into. Intimidating? Yes. A force on defense? Yes, and no. When he was drafted 1st overall out of LSU, I thought he'd eventually develop into a 30/18 player, and that was worst case scenario at his peak. That never happened. He was still awesome, but not as awesome and determined as one would have hoped. I'm not even sure he's been much better than Chris Webber as a rebounder throughout their respective careers. Put him against the likes of Dennis Rodman or a Dwight Howard, and he doesn't even come close. If he really knew how to rebound, like how a Moses Malone learned how to rebound (smart positioning), there's no telling how much better O'Neil could have been down low, keeping his man away from the basket.


I would have expected just one BIG game out SHAQ Diesel, and maybe it'll come next game, but I just don't see that happening. At least not on that level we were sometimes accustomed to. Sadly, he's still (by far) the best center in the game today.


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Tdoggy

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Shaq

Yeah got to agree. Shaq is on his way down for sure :-( But he might just have enough to win one more championship! It's now or not for a long time with this Veteran team. Dwayne Wayde will be a star for a long time. But Shaq is at the end years of his career and so is Gary Payton and A. Walker.

I can't see anyone but D.Wayde putting up big numbers for this team. Even J Williams has been around for a while now.

Miami has to listen to Riley and keep up the good playing and they can win it all. :thumbsup:

Pat Riley is a great motivator. He gets the best out of who he has in the game. He is one of the best ever.

Shaq putting up 15 pts and maybe 8 boards for the rest of his career would be nice. As long as Dwayne Wayde keeps putting up 30+ pts a game :D
 

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I hadn't realized how talented Jason Terry was. :confused: Not only can he play basketball, but he can also do an incredible impersonation of "John Starks" circa '94!

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I guess SHAQ must have relayed a message to Jalen Rose (to give to Terry), saying that if he makes any big shots in game 6, he was going to bitch slap him to death. Who'd'a-thunk that they'd win 4 games in-a-row sans any BIG game from the BIG Fella'? I can't wait to see what Mark Cuban will say this time. :D


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what happened???

talk about getting spanked. You cry and bitch and moan and kick garbage cans and then lose in your building??? lol What a joke....Pat Riley got his players to think positive and just take the trophy home in game 6 WOW!!!

What did Jason Terry shoot?? Good lord he was horrible... How many 3's did this guy put up, lol He made Stackhuse look good :D

Shaq didn't have to do much as D. Wayde and A. Walker both had great games and carried this team to a championship....

I hope Kobe was watching....boo hoo hooo Shaq has more rings lol :notworthy

Dirk was good but the rest of the team needs work. A young team that will probably be great again. If they keep everybody...

Mark Cuban is probably on his treadmill crying his eyes out....lol "Why did I let Steve nash go" What is wrong with me....2 time NBA MVP..... boo hoo hoo

Go Miami!!!! who predicted 4-2???? :lolup:
 

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Hats off to those who picked Miami.
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I was VERY disappointed with the refs in Game 5...

Free throws...Mavs 21-25 Heat 32-49

49!!!!!! How many games a year does a team go to the line 49 times???

Mavs took the last shot with the scored tied in regulation...Jason Terry and three defenders leaped just beyond the foul line...Haslem hit him on the right forearm...no basket...no foul.

With 9 secs left in overtime...Wade takes the inbound pass in the FRONT court and dribbles into the BACK court...drives thru three defenders with 2 ticks left...misses the layup and gets to shoot two...ballgame. Have seen that replay many times...have yet to see the foul...but I see the BACK court violation every time.

Mavs have some growing up to do...blowing a 11 point lead at the end of Game 3 was horrible and cost them the title. Lousy second half in Game 6 ended their season.

Ironic that Stackhouse was suspended for Game 5 (overtime loss) for "mugging" the biggest "mugger" on the court (Shaq).

We ridicule Mark Cuban, Bill Parcells, and Jerry Jones more here in Dallas than the rest of the country combined. Most of the radio sports shows here have impersonators that portray them in outrageous skits.

The "fake" Jerry Jones has predicted now that he has TO...Cowboys will win 7 Super Bowls, cure cancer in the Metro-plex, and bring Jesus back.

They have a "fake" American Airlines Center usher (Gerald)...who calls Cuban "the little retarded boy".

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Daffy said:
Hats off to those who picked Miami.
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...but I see the BACK court violation every time.
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apparently this play was not a backcourt violation

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Mavs definately got screwed by that foul call though.

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Tdoggy

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call was horrible

Foul call was bad....

Dirk not a superstar yet... Superstars don't disappear in big games...

USA Soccer team was robbed!!! That foul call before the end of the 1st half was HORRIBLE!!!! Penalty kick goal BOOOOO

I seen some really bad calls so far :eek2:
 

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"Dirk not a superstar yet... Superstars don't disappear in big games..."

2005-2006 avg 26.6 ppg (7th in NBA) avg 9 rbspg (16th in NBA)

Four games Mavs lost to Heat...avg 24 ppg & 10 rbspg...including Game 6 where he scored 29 with 15 reb.

I agree, he could have played better...but he played pretty close to his average. Terry, Howard, Stackhouse, and Harris should have done a little more...that was the key.

One more point about Game 5...an aggressive player like Wade plays last 10 min of regulation and 6 min of overtime with 5 fouls without fouling out???

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Wayde is an all out star. Yeah he didn't foul out because he played great and avoided all contact :) Way to go D Wayde!!!

Dirk is good but not a superstar. You can't just disappear like that. Superstars like "D Wayde" step up at the end of games and put their team on their back and Win!!!! Dirk where did ya go???? :-(

Dirk has yet to do that. Sure he puts up good numbers. But will he ever be a leader??? I hope so..But not as of yet....:-(

instead Jason Terry stepped up and took 5 million shots and missed well over 75% of them :(

People in Dallas should stop chanting M.V.P. He is not on that level yet...:(
 
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