Taking a break after losing 14k in one day...

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It is the whole culture.

Adverts for example paint pictures which are totally unrealistic.
Streamers who then post videos on YouTube, create fake photoshopped thumbnail images for their videos which are 100% Clickbait. They need to stop. But they will not. Majority of YouTubers do those fake photoshopped screenshots not just in gamble market.

It really does make me sad that Streamers keep continuing to be irresponsible and casinos and slot providers can not get enough of it and in some case speer them on with more and more incentives and lucrative deals to further generate more traffic to their own brands. Then streamers get aff money plus YouTube Ad money from there disgusting footage.
 

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Unfortunately, yes.
I was able to keep myself from gambling only for 10 days, instead of planned 14.
Not the it matters all that much, but i think it was actually only 9 days. (i may have miscounted tho)

Does this mean you wont get back to advertising gambling until your have gotten your own gambling under control?
You said the only reason you could take a 2 week break (more if you didnt feel comfortable after 2 weeks) was because you were in control and not an addict.
And i think you would agree that someone whos not in control of their own gambling is probably the last person who should advertise it to others.

Anyway, i hope you get the help you need, and that it all works out for the best.
 
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Remember the days on here a few years ago when you would people in healthy profit for the year, and quite regularly too. Out of interest is anyone (non-streamer) in that boat?
 

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Not the it matters all that much, but i think it was actually only 9 days. (i may have miscounted tho)

Does this mean you wont get back to advertising gambling until your have gotten your own gambling under control?
You said the only reason you could take a 2 week break (more if you didnt feel comfortable after 2 weeks) was because you were in control and not an addict.
And i think you would agree that someone whos not in control of their own gambling is probably the last person who should advertise it to others.

Anyway, i hope you get the help you need, and that it all works out for the best.

I think you have a good point here, and I will need to think through why I broke my own rules, i.e. started playing earlier than I was going to. Was it because I again felt comfortable with gambling, or because I couldn't resist the urge to play? One part of me tells that if I wasn't able to control it, I wouldn't even last a day, but on the other side, I didn't follow my own rules, which is clearly not what I wanted.

Just to repeat myself, I didn't lose more than I could afford, but that loss was "too much and too fast". And all the money I'm losing is my own money, since I'm not making anything from the affiliation.
 

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I think you have a good point here, and I will need to think through why I broke my own rules, i.e. started playing earlier than I was going to. Was it because I again felt comfortable with gambling, or because I couldn't resist the urge to play? One part of me tells that if I wasn't able to control it, I wouldn't even last a day, but on the other side, I didn't follow my own rules, which is clearly not what I wanted.

Just to repeat myself, I didn't lose more than I could afford, but that loss was "too much and too fast". And all the money I'm losing is my own money, since I'm not making anything from the affiliation.
Why would you want to advertise casinos if theres nothing in it for you?
 

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Why would you want to advertise casinos if theres nothing in it for you?

I did pretty OK when I streamed for Russian-speaking audience (my native language is Russian). However, after Twitch and YouTube blocked vast majority of channels (my old channels were blocked, and all content removed), I decided to switch to English.

But with English market - the whole different story. Not sure why is it like this, maybe poor casino selection (for one of my projects I got 7 registrations from 2800 clicks, and zero deposits), maybe my streams just not entertaining enough, bad streming times, etc. etc. etc.

Also, I would still gamble if I wasn't streaming, so why not? I'm happy with my 30 regular viewers who didn't ditch me after 3 years of watching :D At least, I can speak to all of them lol
 

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Remember the days on here a few years ago when you would people in healthy profit for the year, and quite regularly too. Out of interest is anyone (non-streamer) in that boat?
I am in profit since turn of year - but not healthy - miniscule.
And that is only because Will Hill - for all thier RTP nerfing faults have given some pretty decent bonuses over the last few weeks. Lots of 100% matchs with only 10x wagering.
They have also done a few 100% match on Live casino - again with 10x wagering - so that is basically buying money.
They have covered my losses so i'm a teeensy weeny bit in profit YTD
 

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As for the profits, most of streamers get deposit bonuses, so the bigger your audience is, the better your bonuses will be. And on the long run bonuses help A LOT, both increasing your streaming time and potential profits.
 

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It's because we're all led to believe, that slots are random. They are not. The exact phrase would be "Pseudo random". Pretty much your winnings are determined by the amount you deposit, and pretty much the last time you hit withdrawl. I took a very clear stand yesterday when i hitted the 9500 euro. It was no matter what i did, a downward spiral. In a controlled way of losing tho; like it's not everything hits blank but you can tell the odds are quite different at that point.

When i repeated the same exact at another casino, the same stuff happend. It hit my mind that this is'nt random, it's pseudo random. I'm not sure, i'm not algorithm expert, but you cant tell me or another one that what i experienced in the last 2 days was a "random" event. Perhaps it already was deciced the moment i put a deposit onto the casino. My action as well differs greatly from 50 vs 200 euro. At this point i'm starting to believe, and exactly looking at Rocknrolla a while back,

He +/- depositted over 90k on that one particular casino he played at. In december he finally hits the stream with 90k wins or so. I am starting to believe that we're a great selection of big suckers who pays for their own entertainment. It's bin written before, the true nature of gambling is done. The days are over. The games are becoming more and more volatile and all designed to make you tilt like crazy (look at the new pirate game where it's constantly trying to haul you over to buy for a shitload of near hits/wins).

Show me some graphs here; how many of these streamers are really up. Same goes out for players here. How many of you are really really up and still can say hey my gambling carreer has bin fruitfull for me. I'm not talking about the 100 quid or euro players but the ones in the thousands.

As for that 9500 euro session, i only withdrawl 1800 of that, which was my exact deposit over the last few weeks. I tried again and miraculously i hit one after the other big win bonus you woud'nt imagine. DOA, DOA2, even BTG games fully went beserk, that was till a certain point again. It hit me; pseudo random. Maybe it's due to the country i am staying in and thats the reason why i experience the same shit happening over and over and over again. But you cant convince me at this point anymore that slots truely are random.

The wins are limited. The wagering is crazy over some games meaning they will run you dry and suck you out completely because you believe in the next bonus or even bonus buy it might happen. Well frankly i got rekt so much in the last 2 days, it's impossible to believe that my event was a genuine random outcome. The above player burning 14k; i have mad respect for doing that in the first place, but you got f'ed. You got buttf'ed extremely and it just shows how brutal slots are.

Just for those who do not believe what i write here; above happend on 3 casino's over 2 nights. they all showed the same repetitive behaviour. It does'nt matter if my approach is deposit 200 euro, playing at 80 cents over various of games or depositting 200 euro and hit a instant bonus buy of 200 euro. If the pseudo is right, i win. If it's not i lose. I can show anyone here a video of my above analysis as well; i'd be glad to make it. But let it be a eye opener that this form of gambling is becoming extremely dangerous.

It woud'nt suprise me if i hit the same shit this weekend again, where my deposits pretty much dictates how far i can kick the ball this time.
 

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It's because we're all led to believe, that slots are random. They are not. The exact phrase would be "Pseudo random". Pretty much your winnings are determined by the amount you deposit, and pretty much the last time you hit withdrawl. I took a very clear stand yesterday when i hitted the 9500 euro. It was no matter what i did, a downward spiral. In a controlled way of losing tho; like it's not everything hits blank but you can tell the odds are quite different at that point.

When i repeated the same exact at another casino, the same stuff happend. It hit my mind that this is'nt random, it's pseudo random. I'm not sure, i'm not algorithm expert, but you cant tell me or another one that what i experienced in the last 2 days was a "random" event. Perhaps it already was deciced the moment i put a deposit onto the casino. My action as well differs greatly from 50 vs 200 euro. At this point i'm starting to believe, and exactly looking at Rocknrolla a while back,

He +/- depositted over 90k on that one particular casino he played at. In december he finally hits the stream with 90k wins or so. I am starting to believe that we're a great selection of big suckers who pays for their own entertainment. It's bin written before, the true nature of gambling is done. The days are over. The games are becoming more and more volatile and all designed to make you tilt like crazy (look at the new pirate game where it's constantly trying to haul you over to buy for a shitload of near hits/wins).

Show me some graphs here; how many of these streamers are really up. Same goes out for players here. How many of you are really really up and still can say hey my gambling carreer has bin fruitfull for me. I'm not talking about the 100 quid or euro players but the ones in the thousands.

As for that 9500 euro session, i only withdrawl 1800 of that, which was my exact deposit over the last few weeks. I tried again and miraculously i hit one after the other big win bonus you woud'nt imagine. DOA, DOA2, even BTG games fully went beserk, that was till a certain point again. It hit me; pseudo random. Maybe it's due to the country i am staying in and thats the reason why i experience the same shit happening over and over and over again. But you cant convince me at this point anymore that slots truely are random.

The wins are limited. The wagering is crazy over some games meaning they will run you dry and suck you out completely because you believe in the next bonus or even bonus buy it might happen. Well frankly i got rekt so much in the last 2 days, it's impossible to believe that my event was a genuine random outcome. The above player burning 14k; i have mad respect for doing that in the first place, but you got f'ed. You got buttf'ed extremely and it just shows how brutal slots are.

Just for those who do not believe what i write here; above happend on 3 casino's over 2 nights. they all showed the same repetitive behaviour. It does'nt matter if my approach is deposit 200 euro, playing at 80 cents over various of games or depositting 200 euro and hit a instant bonus buy of 200 euro. If the pseudo is right, i win. If it's not i lose. I can show anyone here a video of my above analysis as well; i'd be glad to make it. But let it be a eye opener that this form of gambling is becoming extremely dangerous.

It woud'nt suprise me if i hit the same shit this weekend again, where my deposits pretty much dictates how far i can kick the ball this time.

Alot of nonsense again which has been posted by countless of people who think slots are "controlled" against them when they lose. It's been explained and discussed with tinfoil hatters countless of times, so can't be bothered with another "it's rigged" post.

But you are correct regarding this: "Show me some graphs here; how many of these streamers are really up. Same goes out for players here. How many of you are really really up and still can say hey my gambling carreer has bin fruitfull for me. I'm not talking about the 100 quid or euro players but the ones in the thousands."

The point is "the house always wins", because most slots have 94-96% RTP (or even lower!.. VS), so in the long run you are bound to lose. If it was profitable for most, casinos would be bust :)

Streamers are probably mostly down too, but they also have insane +EV as they have unlimited bonuses on top of their deposits which you can'r get .

Besides, even if they lose their money, they have made enough in affliation, which is why they keep doing it, even if they do lose.
 

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I know what affiliation brings, i'm in that myself. And its kind of shocking to see the deposit behaviour of some players in some days. It absolutely makes no sense and you start to believe some of 'm are at a super tiny rope held together financially by the grace of gambling.
 

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@Slotplayer83 - People keep talking about this "switch" that turns off their winning streak and makes them start losing constantly, not realising that is the normal behaviour and the big wins they had previously were the aberrations.

But as you said repeatedly you can't be told it's not rigged there's no point trying to change your mind. Just be aware of this; losing is normal, expected behaviour and over a fairly short period of time is guaranteed. They do not need to rig it against you personally or in any way other than the way it is advertised- a coin flip you will lose 52% of the time. I say this because you sound like you are expecting to win and keep winning, this is not possible.

If you've had big wins, take a break, or at least reduce your stake or it'll all go back in sooner or later.

You were absolutely right with this though: "I am starting to believe that we're a great selection of big suckers who pays for their own entertainment." - this is (expensive) entertainment, not a way to make money.
 

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I did pretty OK when I streamed for Russian-speaking audience (my native language is Russian). However, after Twitch and YouTube blocked vast majority of channels (my old channels were blocked, and all content removed), I decided to switch to English.

But with English market - the whole different story. Not sure why is it like this, maybe poor casino selection (for one of my projects I got 7 registrations from 2800 clicks, and zero deposits), maybe my streams just not entertaining enough, bad streming times, etc. etc. etc.

Also, I would still gamble if I wasn't streaming, so why not? I'm happy with my 30 regular viewers who didn't ditch me after 3 years of watching :D At least, I can speak to all of them lol
I know very little about affiliates,live streaming and how it works so I will just ask this question. Do those live streamers who play for silly high stakes attract more potential high rollers to their audience than those who play for much more moderate stakes therefor the chances of attracting sign ups from big spenders is much higher thus generating massively bigger incomes?
 

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I know very little about affiliates,live streaming and how it works so I will just ask this question. Do those live streamers who play for silly high stakes attract more potential high rollers to their audience than those who play for much more moderate stakes therefor the chances of attracting sign ups from big spenders is much higher thus generating massively bigger incomes?

I very much doubt that the proper high rollers watch Twitch or Youtube for some twat with a hat playing slots
 
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