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Discussion in 'The Attic' started by bigsmile, Sep 20, 2014.

    Sep 20, 2014
  1. bigsmile

    bigsmile Banned User - troll

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    usa
    I have a forum suggestion. DONT READ THESE FAKE FORUMS OR WASTE YOUR TIME HERE>

    Go ahead and kick me out. I have read several and I mean SEVERAL long and heated threads and posts here.

    You make it into a joke. You do so in the same manner every time. Its text book and you just did it to protect clubworld AGAIN in the highnoon debate in which you refused to listen to logic.

    That thread had nothing to do with me at all but I couldn't stand the way in which you blindly backed the casino with no common sense and you did it with bullshit smoke and mirrors. I used to think you were the man and honest. I see you are a shill and nothing more. You cannot be trusted anymore than the crooked casinos that you work for.

    Here is what happened. someone go look at the old threads and you will see this is what happens almost to the letter EVERY time bryan tries to cover up bullshit casino activity.


    step 1) Act like you will look into it.

    step 2) come back and say the casino is right (regardless of fact) and that you side with them. Perhaps even state some vague concept that has nothing to do with the situation.

    step 3) get maxd to come on and vaguely insult and act like a douche, thus making the posters angry and frustrated.

    step 4) then go back and answer questions that weren't ask and make veiled insinuations that the posters have an "agenda' or are part of some conspiracy or have a shady past or some other bullshit thing you do.

    step 5) BAN with false accusations or suspend accounts for a month. Tell everyone to be cool and that this topic is over. The casino is right and the poster is delirious.

    step 6) get some sheeple or your alter ego accounts on here to post bullshit backing you up like anyone with half a brain believes that crap. Then have them question the motives of the complainers and start to twist facts and change the direction of the conversation continually putting the poster in a defensive mode answering same accusations over and over.

    step 7) do whatever you can to mute them. keep them banned or whatever.

    FINAL STEP) LOCK THE THREAD because you simply cannot defend yourself anymore.... and be sure to act like your doing it for the good of the community here and all that fake stuff.
    Also, you can change the name of the thread, break it up and put it in different sections to hide it or just delete it. You do all that crap and Im calling you on it. your a fraud in the largest degree.


    THE above process has played out here so many times its amazing. You did it to skiny just now. I read how you did it to so many innoncent posters that were looking for help or what not. YOur a joke. max is a punk. YOur not offering any true help to anyone other than yourself and your partners at the casinos. Quit pretending to do anything else. nobody with half of a mind thinks this crap is legit anyways. Its offensive. I wasted plenty of time here reading old threads to see the truth.

    This thread make you angry? It should. The truth must be burning you that's why your mad. its because its the truth and you know it. Anyone that has spent any time at all on this forum and cannot see that is stupid. We all see it. Real posters all see it. Your own fake accounts aside.

    The reason most real posters get angry is because they don't see this for what it really is. Otherwise you would not have offended so many in your previous BS protection threads.
     
  2. Sep 20, 2014
  3. homerbert

    homerbert I-Gaming Industry Representative webby

    Occupation:
    nothing :)
    Location:
    middle of Europe!
    Hi Bigsmile. If you do not like this forum - you can just stop visiting it, or ask your account closed. But not need to created threads and scream ' do not use this fake forums'. This forums not fake at all. If you not like CWC - just not play there. Not need to start another holywar.
     
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  4. Sep 20, 2014
  5. paul7388

    paul7388 Meister Member MM

    Occupation:
    not a lot
    Location:
    glasgow scotland
    Another "lovely" post to start the weekend. Seems like every weekend now it starts with a post to cause trouble and get members fighting and bitching. Bigsmile if you resent the forum that much why visit :confused:
     
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  6. Sep 20, 2014
  7. mathsboy1975

    mathsboy1975 Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    software engineer
    Location:
    UK London
    Seems some angry people are taking advantage of the reduced levels of moderation at the weekends...
     
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  8. Sep 20, 2014
  9. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    Maybe we could turn it around and in this thread we will only post bigsmiles instead :D:D:D:
    :p:p:p:):yahoo::clap::laugh:
     
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  10. Sep 20, 2014
  11. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

    Occupation:
    Marketing Assistant
    Location:
    Dún Dealgan
    Hmmmm interesting thread if you ask me. :)
    Let me put it this way,I think OP just wanted to ventilate his feelings and that is exactly what he did.
    Ok,I would not have used the same language and wordings if I was him but I do understand the deeper thoughts OP has.
    Sometimes it might seem the case that Bryan and his team choose the casino's side where maybe the player should have been backed.
    But I think we cannot always make a clear judgement on that as we simply do not know all the facts on the table.
    So sometimes we might draw conclusions that are based on what we can read on the forum while guys like Max have the full facts from both parties and thus are well able to make a very good and honest decision in ongoing PAB's and other complaints.
    I have read a few complaints where I chose the OP's side but eventually it turned out the OP mislead us with false statements and information.
    So it is very easy to pick a side,condemn the other side whilst not having the full facts.
    I think we should realise that.

    Now,there are tons of rogue casino's out there on the world wide web and I am so glad I found this place.
    Simply because since I joined CM I only play casino's that are accredited here and I never ever had any issues with those casino's.
    For me it is a place where I can safely pick a casino and play there.

    There is loads of other websites out there like this one but many of them have a shitload of rogue casino's on their websites and promoting them as it was a great place to play.
    Sure Bryan makes a few pound with this website and I am happy if he does,everyone wants to make a few pound extra a month right?
    I do some affiliating myself mainly for Novomatic/Greentube and make a few pound extra a month.

    Question is,how do you make that money?Do you only promote honest casino's or do you not care and also promote rogue casino's.
    For me personally if you only dare to promote top notch casino's and thus leaving out a lot of casino's that are simply scammers and rogue's I find that very good even if it means you have a smaller selection of casino's where you can earn some money from by promoting them.
    Many casinomeister wannabe websites don't care about their players and post their website full of banners,ads and fake recensions from known rogue casino's.
    Now that is what I call shameless and bad.

    To summarize above I think Bryan and his team do a great job,keep the rogue's out and only accept the good casino's to join the accredited list.
    Not all are to my taste but I know for a fact I can play all these casino's knowing if there ever would be an issue I could come on here and have it sorted via a PAB,something I had not have to do yet thank God.


    I joined this forum only like 1,5 years ago I think and I am very happy I have found it.
    I feel much safer now playing at casino's as I know which ones to pick and more important which ones to avoid.

    Before I joined CM I would not have a clue about the differences in online casino's and would just blind pick casino's and play them.
    I have paid for that in the past with unpaid winnings or even winnings that all of a sudden vanished from my account.

    Since I am on CM I never ever had problems anymore.

    And that is just my honest thoughts about things! :):)

    Have a good Saturday my friends!

    Mark.
     
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  12. Sep 20, 2014
  13. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden

    :D

    I'm just guessing, you just made it easier for him to get rid of you. :p
     
  14. Sep 20, 2014
  15. bigjohn

    bigjohn Meister Member MM PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Swimming Pool Serviceman
    Location:
    Northeast Coastal USA
    WTH, this is not the International Court of Justice at The Hague, this is somebody's website.

    If you come here and ask for a decision you should expect just that, a decision from the site owner and his staff based on what they think is right. Have you looked at how many PABs are won? Or how many casinos have made changes in the way they do things because of this site?

    No one is going to be happy with every decision handed down by this site or any other but this site has done far more to forward the industry than any other site like it.
     
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  16. Sep 20, 2014
  17. cappync

    cappync Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Location:
    Durham, NC
    OP,


    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 12, 2017
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  18. Sep 20, 2014
  19. weesie

    weesie Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Old bag lady with a laptop
    bigsmile,

    Bye,

    "Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!"
     
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  20. Sep 20, 2014
  21. rena35

    rena35 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    writing/poetry
    Location:
    cyber space
    I am no fan of what happened in the other thread myself. I do not like some of the things Inetbet does or how they tend to treat players. I understand you are upset but the above post gets you no where. At the end of the day this is Bryan's forum and like it or not, respect is number one. Being angry does not get you anywhere but banned :(.
     
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  22. Sep 20, 2014
  23. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    OK, the OP is at least saying what he feels, but I can see he has missed out on one major point here - perspective.
    If you simply make a conclusion from the threads started by aggrieved players, many of whom have nothing constructive to add to the forum and join because they are either trying it on or want to vent their spleen against a casino, then yes the summary may seem that many of us side with the casino.
    What he doesn't see is the 'quiet' cases we never hear about that aren't plastered all over the forum but started by more discreet members via reps and non-public PAB's which are resolved privately between the player, Max and the casino management.
    CM cannot make a casino ignore their terms. The terms are checked prior to accreditation and therefore assumed acceptable anyway. Discretion in favour of the player is always pleasing, but not compulsory. If people break terms they have to live with the outcome.
    The last thing I feel I need to point out is that for reasons of data protection, privacy and sometimes the simple embarrassment of a player with let's say 'a bit of history' CM often cannot throw the blockbuster shot into a topic which would settle it beyond all doubt and therefore it gets exhausted and locked.
    A bit of understanding by the OP is needed here.
     
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  24. Sep 20, 2014
  25. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    Reported. :what:
     
  26. Sep 20, 2014
  27. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    I'm sure it was already 12 hours ago. We've looked at it all day long :)
     
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  28. Sep 20, 2014
  29. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    It's "you're" not "your".

    Maybe there's another brother...???
     
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  30. Sep 20, 2014
  31. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Freelance Designer
    Location:
    Edmonton Canada
    That whole 30+ page thread compressed into one sentence. :notworthy
     
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  32. Sep 21, 2014
  33. Mouche12

    Mouche12 Kitty Lover PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Translator and facilities manager
    Location:
    Amsterdam
    I haven't been following the HighNoon thread or forgot:oops:, but I remember the recent Casino32 Red issue and Bryan came on very quickly and offered the OP to PAB... and he also waited some more days until the OP finally did.

    The way I see it, Bryan and Max are working very hard, amongst others protecting players and standing up for them against casinos in an honest manner and to their best of their abilities. I understand that there cannot always be transparancy towards other forum members because not everything can be disclosed.
     
  34. Sep 21, 2014
  35. bigsmile

    bigsmile Banned User - troll

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    usa

    Bryan does not allow for debate. If someone is saying that he is wrong or questioning the process he IMMEDIATELY cites some veiled suggestion that the OP is not on the up and up. He then insults them and/or has max do it in a slightly smokey, veiled way.. but no doubt they are muddying the waters and altering the argument and putting the OP on the defensive. They are purposely DISPRESPECTING the OP. The OP then usually comes back and is angry.. THATS WHEN Bryan bans him for not being cool or whatever. Then there can be no more retort in the thread from the OP. Then the other accounts pile on slapping bryan on the back and all that horse manure.
    THEN if other posters are like "what the heck, this isn't right" he will either ban them too for a while or limit them to not posting on the issue any longer... and finally will lock the thread so that it cannot be debated any further even though there is CLEARLY unrest on the "decision" from many other members.

    He has done it over and over and over. Read all the old threads. for those of you that have been here for a long time remember back and think with an open mind. this is text book. He has done it and still does it.
    Go read the Greasemonkey vs. alladains thread that I linked in the other (now amazingly LOCKED thread) about highnoon. Same stuff. Falsely accuse, muddy the waters, change the argument, anger the poster, change the argument again.. state that there is a conspiracy and that some have agendas, change the argument some more, give a timeout for those that are angered by him and max.. finally ban the poter and lock the thread.

    Same ish, different year.

    If we are truly talking about respect then it goes both ways. Bryan cannot come on and illicit thoughts that the OP or whomever may have an alterior motive or agenda or be rogue themselves... then change the subject line and such.... THEN EXPECT the posters to be "respectful" when he himself was not in the first place.

    Look at the highnoon thread again.. everyone got banned, timed out or whatever... in other words "silenced"! Then of course the thread locked so there can be no more light shed on the OBVIOUS fact that CWC just screwed this innocent person out of winnings.
    To say stupid crap like "you aren't out anything because you didn't deposit" is as rogue as saying. "yeah, you won 8000$ but you only deposited $50 and since the casino gave you back your $50 then you have no complaint".... its all BS.

    I am particularly amazed by long time posters that aren't other Bryan accounts or other affiliates that want his reciprocating link or whatever that STILL do not see this happening over and over. It took me a few days of reading to see it loud and clear.

    Like I said, when I first got on here and started reading and learning I was enamored. I thought Bryan was THE MAN! Loved the site. WAs happy... but as I saw this stuff happening and read old posts I realized that I was missing the big scheme here. As I said before it was like realizing that there is no santa clause. It made me sad. I really believed in bryan. now I feel foolish.
     
  36. Sep 21, 2014
  37. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    In relation to your last sentence......trust your feeling.

    How interesting that you would bring up a thread from years ago about that greasemonkey tool. Of all the threads......
     
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  38. Sep 21, 2014
  39. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    So the OP went back reading old threads.
    Well, I went back reading the OP's old posts.

    I would feel like a fool too if I had been him.
    He disrepect those who run the forum and also us other members.

    So what you said bigsmile lost its meaning for me.
     
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