Such amazing skill

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
I have seen some miraculous wins in the last week, all against me.

Paid to 7th place,This is with 12 left, he might have not cashed had he lost. Amazing call.

I cashed out from pokerstars last week, then the bad beats started rolling in.

Believe it or not when I saw what he called with I knew I was toast.

Makes me wonder.



PokerStars Game #32524468579: Tournament #193272175, $6.00+$0.50 USD
Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2009/09/06 15:38:33 ET
Table '193272175 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: hsj1988 (10588 in chips)
Seat 2: kdr1 (9873 in chips)
Seat 3: face972 (3020 in chips)
Seat 4: dfghnajkafs (2742 in chips)
Seat 6: catrinamel (1497 in chips)
Seat 7: MR_Hoornweg (5550 in chips)
hsj1988: posts the ante 50
kdr1: posts the ante 50
face972: posts the ante 50
dfghnajkafs: posts the ante 50
catrinamel: posts the ante 50
MR_Hoornweg: posts the ante 50
MR_Hoornweg: posts small blind 300
hsj1988: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [Ac 8c]
kdr1: folds
face972: folds
dfghnajkafs: folds
catrinamel: raises 847 to 1447 and is all-in
MR_Hoornweg: calls 1147
hsj1988: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Th Jh]
*** TURN *** [5d Th Jh] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [5d Th Jh 3h] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MR_Hoornweg: shows [3d 2d] (three of a kind, Threes)
catrinamel: shows [Ac 8c] (a pair of Threes)
MR_Hoornweg collected 3794 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3794 | Rake 0
Board [5d Th Jh 3h 3c]
Seat 1: hsj1988 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: kdr1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: face972 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dfghnajkafs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: catrinamel (button) showed [Ac 8c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: MR_Hoornweg (small blind) showed [3d 2d] and won (3794) with
three of a kind, Threes
 

Setsuna

Experienced Member
PABnoaccred
Well , in your situation there - he were slighty lucky - but his call is not so bad ; preflop , his chances of winning against your A8 with his 32 are around 30% (35.81% exactly.)

Assuming BB folds (well , it would be an EXTREMELY bad move there not to call , but it's what happened there) , he's risking 847 to win an extra 2347 - around 3 to 1 odds , over a long period of time , that will be an positice move , making him earning chips AND knockouting one player of the tournament, increasing his odds to win/cash-in.

That may seem unfair - but he made the right decision (and losing a hand where you had 65% chances to win is NOT a badbeat , just not lucky there.)
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
It is not the middle of the tourney, its money time.

If you think calling an all in, with almost guaranteed money, to try to bubble with a 2, 3 SOOTED, is an OK move I am glad I play my way.


He might have bubbled or just plain lost after an hour or so of playing well, and calling with a trey and a duece


I have never, ever considered calling in such a situation with cards that bad.

I would love to play you some heads up poker.


Thanks
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
Amazing no hearts here

I won so not complaining but miracle hands do happen

I have watched so many in the past few weeks. You should see one every 1000 or so hands

Mathematicians, any odds.


PokerStars Game #32530179903: Tournament #191370186, $2.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/09/06 17:46:57 ET
Table '191370186 48' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Half Wire (2583 in chips)
Seat 3: gramkj (3690 in chips)
Seat 4: karyrot (7620 in chips)
Seat 5: JeopardyN1 (1375 in chips)
Seat 6: Zasochi (4115 in chips)
Seat 7: catrinamel (4635 in chips)
Seat 8: narigon12 (5310 in chips)
Seat 9: graccuzzi (3452 in chips)
JeopardyN1: posts small blind 50
Zasochi: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [Tc Ks]
spitxu78 is connected
catrinamel: calls 100
narigon12: folds
graccuzzi: folds
Half Wire: folds
gramkj: folds
karyrot: calls 100
JeopardyN1: calls 50
Zasochi: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h Kh 2h]
JeopardyN1: checks
Zasochi: checks
catrinamel: checks
karyrot: checks
*** TURN *** [6h Kh 2h] [6c]
JeopardyN1: checks
Zasochi: checks
catrinamel: checks
karyrot: checks
*** RIVER *** [6h Kh 2h 6c] [Jh]
JeopardyN1: checks
Zasochi: checks
catrinamel: checks
karyrot: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JeopardyN1: shows [Ac 5s] (a pair of Sixes)
Zasochi: mucks hand
catrinamel: shows [Tc Ks] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
karyrot: mucks hand
catrinamel collected 400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Board [6h Kh 2h 6c Jh]
Seat 1: Half Wire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: gramkj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: karyrot (button) mucked [9s Qd]
Seat 5: JeopardyN1 (small blind) showed [Ac 5s] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 6: Zasochi (big blind) mucked [3s 9d]
Seat 7: catrinamel showed [Tc Ks] and won (400) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 8: narigon12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: graccuzzi folded before Flop (didn't b
 

just play

closed account
It is not the middle of the tourney, its money time.

If you think calling an all in, with almost guaranteed money, to try to bubble with a 2, 3 SOOTED, is an OK move I am glad I play my way.


He might have bubbled or just plain lost after an hour or so of playing well, and calling with a trey and a duece


I have never, ever considered calling in such a situation with cards that bad.

I would love to play you some heads up poker.


Thanks
Have you ever watched Gus Hansen play? That was not a bad call by him IMO, he had a lot of outs.

he's risking 847 to win an extra 2347 - around 3 to 1 odds , over a long period of time , that will be an positice move , making him earning chips AND knockouting one player of the tournament, increasing his odds to win/cash-in.
I agree with this.
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
Is it a good move at the end of a tourney?

He had as many outs as I had, but he needed to hit one and was close to losing all his hard work on a whim?

Am I wrong on that?

So why take an " Oh, looks like a good time to go all in on the worst possible hand" mentality.

You can argue this point into the ground but anyone that plays regular would NOT push with this hand so close to cashing in.


I will take your advice, and the next time I get close to "NOT LOSING MY MONEY" I will push an all in with the first small cards I get and hope the turn and river are miracles.

Now I know why the poker section doesn't get many posters here.
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
I am sorry and I apologize if I sound rude.


Please feel free to PM me if you would like to play on pokerstars.

I look forward to the oppourtunity to learn.
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
OK I did it

Big slick against 23 suited. amazing.

Not saying I would recommend it at the end of the tourney, but worked here with not much to lose.



PokerStars Game #32532916169: Tournament #193330780, $3.00+$0.25 USD
Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/09/06 19:01:46 ET
Table '193330780 5' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: Jhonny4t4 (4490 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: ZeelandBoy (1415 in chips)
Seat 4: LuBo61 (3385 in chips)
Seat 5: catrinamel (2440 in chips)
Seat 6: NOpaijavaiN (1850 in chips)
Seat 7: sngonta (882 in chips)
Seat 8: East Bend (5510 in chips)
catrinamel: posts small blind 50
NOpaijavaiN: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catrinamel [2h 3h]
sngonta: raises 782 to 882 and is all-in
East Bend: folds
Jhonny4t4: folds
ZeelandBoy: folds
LuBo61: folds
catrinamel: calls 832
NOpaijavaiN: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d Th 2s]
*** TURN *** [3d Th 2s] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [3d Th 2s Qs] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
catrinamel: shows [2h 3h] (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
sngonta: shows [Ah Ks] (high card Ace)
catrinamel collected 1864 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1864 | Rake 0
Board [3d Th 2s Qs 7h]
Seat 2: Jhonny4t4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ZeelandBoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: LuBo61 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: catrinamel (small blind) showed [2h 3h] and won (1864) with
two pair, Threes and Deuces
Seat 6: NOpaijavaiN (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: sngonta showed [Ah Ks] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: East Bend folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 

4 of a kind

Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll
With the first hand you spoke of, you were on the button with only a $50.00 ante invested. If you fold preflop in that situation you get to see 3 more deals for only 150 chips before your big blind. I don't risk my tourney yet in that situation especially that close to a pay seat with A8, even suited. I'm guessing you were trying to steal the blinds and the antes, and got caught. Would you have felt better if he called with a pair of deuces? They would of held up also.

I understand how you feel since it was only a 2-3, but at this point you should of had a read on that player of his style. In addition, since you went all-in at your position with all folds behind you, based on your short stack he put you on one good one and a steal. With his stack and pot odds to call, his thoughts of any two cards could win, turned out to be a good call.

Had he lost he still had enough chips to recover.
 

catrina m

Senior Member
PABaccred
With the first hand you spoke of, you were on the button with only a $50.00 ante invested. If you fold preflop in that situation you get to see 3 more deals for only 150 chips before your big blind. I don't risk my tourney yet in that situation especially that close to a pay seat with A8, even suited. I'm guessing you were trying to steal the blinds and the antes, and got caught. Would you have felt better if he called with a pair of deuces? They would of held up also.

I understand how you feel since it was only a 2-3, but at this point you should of had a read on that player of his style. In addition, since you went all-in at your position with all folds behind you, based on your short stack he put you on one good one and a steal. With his stack and pot odds to call, his thoughts of any two cards could win, turned out to be a good call.

Had he lost he still had enough chips to recover.

I agree. I was hoping for a fold and got caught.

I would have felt better with an A 9 but its still caught.

Thanks 4ofaKind

Thats exactly how it was Down to the feeling and logic.

Poker you understand!
 
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