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Streamers Account Sharing ?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Spikie, May 29, 2018.

    May 29, 2018
  1. Spikie

    Spikie Full Member

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    Uk
    Ok I have been watching some Casinodaddy streams on YouTube , wouldn’t normally watch a slot stream but seems like they are fairly legit..

    The last video I watched they had a 15000 Euro deposit.

    So there are 3 guys , and have day jobs .

    How can they all play on one account? Is that not against most t&c ‘s ? Also source of wealth is day job and streaming , but how can all 3 of them provide documents when they are playing one account at any casino ?


    Can streamers have special terms which excludes them from certan documentation and SOW , such as if they can be included in a casinos promotional budget ?

    If you want to start streaming and approach a casino as a group how can you get an individual account ?

    If so then doesn’t seem right to me .. can anyone explain further ?
     
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  2. May 29, 2018
  3. ed skull murphy

    ed skull murphy Trollish behavior - quit the forum

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    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
    ~ George Orwell, Animal Farm (1945)
     
  4. May 29, 2018
  5. Spikie

    Spikie Full Member

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    Question is how to level the playing field ?

    Low roller normal players are getting shut out with ridiculous privacy requests but high roller internet marketeers can do what they want....

    Can any reps here shed some light on how this is ok ?
     
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  6. May 29, 2018
  7. ed skull murphy

    ed skull murphy Trollish behavior - quit the forum

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    It's not ok. The way to level it up is to vote with your wallet; for me it's easy, roulette is pretty much the same game anywhere, so I tend to go with the solid UK giants, who apply common sense to an individual case rather than trying to extract as much data as possible from everyone, as some of the lesser lights seem to want to do.

    I suppose for slot players, a good choice of slots and big bonuses might be a stronger pull, which maybe the big boys don't offer.
     
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  8. May 30, 2018
  9. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    Depends on the casino, but accounts can sometimes be shared with permission. It's usually husband and wife from the same address however. Important to seek the permission in advance of course.
     
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  10. May 30, 2018
  11. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

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    Ottawa, Ontario
    Seeing that these casinos haven't shut down these streamers' accounts, I guess it's kosher when a streamer allows somebody else to make bets in broad daylight. I'm sure if the casinos were to be fined by the UKGC or whomever for such a thing, then you wouldn't see it. Right now, it's much ado about nothing.
     
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  12. May 30, 2018
  13. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

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    When I used to exclusively stream for a certain casino, I did have permission for my wife to play on my account. Not that it would ever happen, as she doesn't do gambling, let alone wants to be in front of a camera!

    So I guess that as long as there is prior agreement, this is allowed.

    You usually are only allowed one account from an IP address but I know that members here have an account for themselves and one for their partner with the same casino with prior agreement.

    Also take into account that some of the bigger streamers are Companies. Not sure how that exactly works in the sense that the account they play with is a Company rather than personal account and if it is the former, their employees are playing.
     
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  14. May 30, 2018
  15. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

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    @interlog

    Good point.

    In the U.S., there are professional slot machine players and some of them also get special treatment when they show up. One was allowed to film his slot play in a casino that disallows it.

    I really think being a professional slot machine player is silly, though. The house always has the edge and winning is all luck. Truth betold, “professional slot machine player” is just a politically correct term for “gambling addict”.
     
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  16. May 30, 2018
  17. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

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    @BrianGhattas In a lot of these cases the house does not have the edge due to the bonus deals these streamers are able to make. It's a distortion of reality.

    I think most streamers (if not all) are actually advertisers using gambling as the medium to reach their audience / promote their product. So professional advertiser is probably a more appropriate title.
     
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  18. May 30, 2018
  19. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    Casino Daddy is the cringiest one. I wouldn't admit to that :p
     
  20. May 30, 2018
  21. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Personally I never bother watching streamers rare if ever aside from Craigs slot channel and the Bandit. They just usually show the high lights. The rest of them are a pain to watch using the same sentences "oh my god oh my god" over and over. Inflated over reactions at the big wins. Really anal and annoying to watch. And people fall for it, signing up to the casino.

    I dont include the likes of Dunover Interlog in the above, I will watch then both ) Especially @dunover when he looses his mind on a bad run ;-) poor cat and at the moment poor workmen lol
     
  22. May 30, 2018
  23. Borgie

    Borgie Senior Member

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    Streamers get better deals for bonuses normally . Some get a 100 percent match whenever they want as indeed this is advertising for that casino.

    With casinodaddy i believe normally one of them will deposit via their personal account but any of the 4 of them actually play and they split the deposits and withdrawals 4 ways. The casinos must know that any of them could be clicking the play button at any time. Maybe one of the reps could chime in.

    Of course many people at home will allow their partner or a friend to click the button or your friend might say here's 100 use it for a deposit I will take a share of any winnings. Difference is that's all invisible and unknown. Streamers do it publicly. Should it be allowed .... well it happens .
     
  24. May 30, 2018
  25. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

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    @slotter999

    I agree with your comment. These streamers will deny everything about being “employees” of the casinos when the evidences shows otherwise.
     
  26. May 30, 2018
  27. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    I would not consider them employees. Rather businesses with contracts with the casino, just like any other affiliate.
     
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  28. May 30, 2018
  29. Tengil

    Tengil Senior Member

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    Well every streamer that gets paid to play (those getting bonuses on every deposit) should be considered an employee of said casino. In the long run they don't risk a single penny as they will make a profit by playing as the bonuses they get have quite a high EV. And that is on top of affiliate commissions.

    An unethical and extremely misleading way to market your casino, which is nothing new to this industry.
     
  30. May 30, 2018
  31. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming!

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    Streamers, certainly the larger ones, are affiliates of the casinos that they play at. It could be possible that the more popular YouTube streamers are allowed to sign up under their own referral tags, to soften the blow when they go on a losing streak. I don't honestly know.

    I personally don't really get the appeal of watching other people play slots, as I'd rather be playing them myself. That said, congrats to the guys that have made a good stab at making a business of it.

    However, certainly for those based in the UK, it will be interesting to see how long casinos will allow it. For example I can't see bet365 being okay with one of their affiliates playing at their casino, thus promoting them on YouTube.
     
  32. May 30, 2018
  33. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

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    @Tengil

    What is EV the acronym for?
     
  34. May 30, 2018
  35. Tengil

    Tengil Senior Member

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    Expected value.
     
  36. May 30, 2018
  37. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

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    @BrianGhattas To be clear I am not saying they are employees. They are, in my opinion, affiliates / advertisers and streaming slots is how they advertise their products
    i.e. affiliation.

    I don't begrudge them their success either. They saw the opportunity and took it. Good for them.
     
  38. May 30, 2018
  39. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

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    Location:
    Ottawa, Ontario
    @slotter999

    I noticed the CasinoDaddy people had 2,000+ viewers. How many people genuinely want to watch them play slots and how many of them are just kissing their butts in hopes of getting a handout i.e. bonus funds? These people have to give out “candy” so to speak to get viewers.
     
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