Squirrel Pike.

[missmichelle]

I can understand the nomination being removed for that post, but I can't understand removing the thanks that it received. I think alot of people were agreeing on the fact that there was no point in the relationship continuing any longer. It seemed as though there was a new 3dice thread started about once a week by skiny. Enzo had already responded to many of them. If you were that unhappy with the place you should have moved on. Could it have been done in private? yes but then again so could have been all the accusations.

Believe me I have been losing my ass at 3dice along with every place else I play lately, but that is the nature of gambling. When it's good it's good but when it's bad it sucks. I could even see starting a thread bitching about your bad luck in general but to criticize a certain casino especially when it was stated that he quit depositing there a while ago was unecessary. Oh and by the way I am not in any group at 3dice. I went into chat once. I just hate to see any good casino bashed endlessly.

Michelle

 

[skiny]

I'm still trying to figure out how a casino manager telling you that he is closing your account in public could be anything but good news...

Skiny,

Have you told everyone that pretty much every time you came in the chat room all you would do is complain? Even after the numerous times that people asked you to stop, have you told them that you continued anyway?

Have you told everyone how many times you came into the chat room and did nothing but [bleep] and [bleep] about pretty much everything 3Dice had to offer, including chat, but continued to play (and "chat") there anyway?

Have you told everyone that you would take private conversations between people and yourself public because you didn't like the outcome of the conversation?


Enzo had (and still has) every right to defend the casino - after all, he is its manager. He was appointed to deal with issues like this - this issue to him is now considered dealt with.

Regardless of why you were banned, public banning of someone is not unheard of. You can read all about others that have been publically banned from one forum Old / Expired Link. Not only that, every few days, a list pops up showing precisely who has been banned and the reason for it.

I know there is a difference between a forum and a casino - but for some reason, you seem to have been using this forum for your own personal insults against the games at 3Dice. Saying that the games pay -0- 70 out of however many spins is, IMO, an insult. Saying that your RTP isn't what it Enzo says it is is an insult to him and his system.

Let's assume something, shall we?

Let's say, over your life at 3Dice, you had 10,000 spins on SP averaging 45c/spin.

10,000*45c = $4,500 of wagering

Most of the spins were -0-, or less than your bet, "as you say".

3249*0 = $0 +
6750*.20 = $1,350 of winnings, RTP = 30%

Then, one day, you had a killing to play max. On your first and only spin at $9, You hit something that pays $3,330.

1350+3330 = $4,680 = 104% RTP

It only takes ONE hit to swing the RTP in the other direction - the essence of high variance.


Now, I know I don't need to give you a math lesson, but i'm simply saying that in all of its volatility, high variance is actually helping your bottom line, whether you see the end result of the nice hit or not. Putting it back into the game does not lower your RTP simply because you did not cash the winnings out.

Now here's the thing... If you want to discuss these points about slot games and math that's perfectly acceptable. I'm happy to discuss this with you all day long and I may or may not agree with you. I might not even be correct but that's the entire point of a casino or slot game discussion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with any player venting about a slot game or any amount of players discussing the merits or fairness of an extremely high variance game. Putting that aside - I have never made any private conversations public. Including ones with Enzo where he was more than ignorant and insulting. I have never mentioned anyone's name from a private conversation in a public thread. I respect people's privacy and every single person I talk to privately knows anything they say is safe with me. As for that 3Dice chat room how much a person complains doesn't really seem nearly as important as who's doing the complaining. I've seen and been told many many times over about a barrage of complaints about slot games or card games in that chat room and not a single person says a word. I've personally spent hours happily chatting and making jokes and with one sentence I've had the same half dozen brown nosers jump on me for simply saying a slot game is paying crap. It's sad to even watch. The rampant favoritism in that chat room nothing short of childish and I quit chatting in it long before I was ever banned.

I personally like 3dice, even though I have not deposited alot in the past, just because my deposits seem to escape so fast. however when I do deposit I am aware of the fact that most games are high variance and that I either will hit or fall hard.
I do belive that excluding/banning a player in public is not the most proffessional thing to do BUT on the other had, while reading this thread I get the feeling that the OP has done this before (no offense) and I can also understand beeing "fed-up" with it.
All in all, now atleast u dont have to play the slots anymore =))

Done what before? Complained about a slot game or a casino? Most of the people in here have complained about slot games or casinos. I've read threads where players have claimed that RTG casinos can alter the RTP, MG as well. I don't see any casino operators jumping off the deep end and banning them from any casinos. I don't even see them taking it personally. This is a public forum. People should be allowed to discuss whatever they please and give whatever opinions they please. If anyone disagrees with it they're well within their right to join the thread and debate the issue.

I can understand the nomination being removed for that post, but I can't understand removing the thanks that it received. I think alot of people were agreeing on the fact that there was no point in the relationship continuing any longer. It seemed as though there was a new 3dice thread started about once a week by skiny. Enzo had already responded to many of them. If you were that unhappy with the place you should have moved on. Could it have been done in private? yes but then again so could have been all the accusations.

Believe me I have been losing my ass at 3dice along with every place else I play lately, but that is the nature of gambling. When it's good it's good but when it's bad it sucks. I could even see starting a thread bitching about your bad luck in general but to criticize a certain casino especially when it was stated that he quit depositing there a while ago was unecessary. Oh and by the way I am not in any group at 3dice. I went into chat once. I just hate to see any good casino bashed endlessly.

Michelle

Thanking a post that simply says I'm being banned from a casino is basically thanking Enzo for banning me. It's ridiculous. My membership status at this casino is nobody's business but mine and Enzo's. Even if I'm banned from this casino I'm still within my rights to discuss the games. I've played them long enough to know them. Furthermore, it may seem like there was a new 3Dice thread every week but the reality is that there were a few threads that get posted in for several weeks. I didn't start them all. I didn't even post negatively in them all. I give my honest opinion. If it hurts a casino operator's feelings because a player isn't happy with one of the casino's games he probably shouldn't be a casino operator in the first place. Do I have a personal issue with Enzo? Yes, and they have nothing to do with the casino or my RTP. Have I made my posts about my experiences at his casino about him personally? No. It's pretty sad when the player is more professional and mature than the casino.

 

[Mavin1]

Sung to the Home on The Range tune. Enjoy!

Oh give me a home, where squirrels don't roam,
But where the play can last all day.
Where seldom is heard, a discouraging word,
Because the slots, have all gone my way.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.

I've tried RTG, but it sucks the blood out of me,
And Rival I just don't know.
But the oddball places I play, got me thinking, what the hey,
Oh my how I've gone far astray.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.




LOL, Sorry for the derail Skiny, just had to get this out of my system.

 

[RedAndi]

Mavin I am stealing that squirrel pic to use as my avatar
I love him!

 

[Mavin1]

Good thing I didn't pick the road kill pic! You can steal him, if you like.

 

[jod5413]

Have I made my posts about my experiences at his casino about him personally? No. It's pretty sad when the player is more professional and mature than the casino

So, basically you are saying you (the player) are more professional and mature than the casino (which would be Enzo, since that is what all this is about).

Can you not understand that THIS post of yours makes you guilty of bad mouthing the casino (Enzo). Almost every other post you have made has been slamming Enzo, whether you know it or not.

I am not taking sides, truly. I don't know either one of you, but what I know is you are trying to cause as much damage publicly that you can for 3Dice.

Enzo came, posted, and left. Whether anyone agrees with how Skiny was banished from the casino or not, Skiny seems to be enjoying keeping this thread going.

Enzo was wrong, he should not have banished Skiny in public. Hindsight is wonderful, no?

Skiny has been keeping the "feud" going with repetitive rants about how he has been harmed and how awful the returns are on Squirrel Pile. How Enzo has treated him badly, how he has done "nothing wrong".

Time to move on. Make it private, if it has to still go on. Please. I don't think I am alone in these thoughts.

 

[rockycatt]

ya lets put this vendetta to bed

 

[skiny]

So, basically you are saying you (the player) are more professional and mature than the casino (which would be Enzo, since that is what all this is about).

Can you not understand that THIS post of yours makes you guilty of bad mouthing the casino (Enzo). Almost every other post you have made has been slamming Enzo, whether you know it or not.

I am not taking sides, truly. I don't know either one of you, but what I know is you are trying to cause as much damage publicly that you can for 3Dice.

Enzo came, posted, and left. Whether anyone agrees with how Skiny was banished from the casino or not, Skiny seems to be enjoying keeping this thread going.

Enzo was wrong, he should not have banished Skiny in public. Hindsight is wonderful, no?

Skiny has been keeping the "feud" going with repetitive rants about how he has been harmed and how awful the returns are on Squirrel Pile. How Enzo has treated him badly, how he has done "nothing wrong".

Time to move on. Make it private, if it has to still go on. Please. I don't think I am alone in these thoughts.

Actually I have only answered other people's posts. I have not once come back here to this thread to post unless someone else posted to me first. Just like you're doing now.

Maybe I am guilty of bad mouthing Enzo. I wasn't until he got personal with me. Insulting me and trying to shame me here in this thread for the benifit of his followers. I only discussed his slot games and his service. Some of what I said was negative and some was positive. I never spoke of him personally.

And as for Enzo only posting here once, that's what he does. Then he'll go back to his chat room and treat it like a big joke. Or ask people to come back and thank his posts.

 

[footdr]

This is my favorite game at 3dice

It is the only game at 3dice I continually win on. But I found that you need to bet fewer lines(also play around a bit with lines and bet). Payout worse if I play 9 lines or max bet.

Basically I am not playing there again because just can't win without hitting bonus rounds.

 

[butterflyboogie]

OMG

I can't believe I am sitting here singing this catchy tune...but I am...LOL

Sung to the Home on The Range tune. Enjoy!

Oh give me a home, where squirrels don't roam,
But where the play can last all day.
Where seldom is heard, a discouraging word,
Because the slots, have all gone my way.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.

I've tried RTG, but it sucks the blood out of me,
And Rival I just don't know.
But the oddball places I play, got me thinking, what the hey,
Oh my how I've gone far astray.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.




LOL, Sorry for the derail Skiny, just had to get this out of my system.

 

[Mavin1]

I can't believe I am sitting here singing this catchy tune...but I am...LOL

Not bad for a chuckle. It just popped in my head so had to share.
Of course you'll be singing it for awhile, till you are sending me pm's never to write songs again! LOL.

 

[met1959]

Totally agree

This is probably the worst game out of any online casino I know of. It does pay out about once every 20 times you play it. The rest of the time it hits zero about 75 spins out of 80. Even 4 wilds on the screen at once barely pays 2x my wager.

You do get to match 3 squirrels about every 40 to 80 spins that will pay about 80% of what it cost to hit it if you're lucky.

That squirrel game dazzels but don't pay that often.