Spin Empire = Slotobank and Odds/EveryMatrix helping them cover it

[Kiwiguy]

Wow, you're something else. It's blatantly obvious these two brands are connected, not only their communication via e-mail is identical (on top of e-mails going through their server) - they've even said "Slotobank" by mistake in live chat just recently. If I go to Betsson, do you think they accidentally say "e-mail support@slotobank.com"?

It's not something that just happens. I'd bet a hefty sum that you're either working for Slotobank or asked to come here and shill.

Very well lets do this firstly your evidence sources , secondly no strike two , and three perhaps we need some clarity from the rep I've read the earlier posts a lot of speculation without
proving a thing.

 

[onkel]

My evidence sources? Things like this just happens I'm sure.

 

[onkel]

Very well lets do this firstly your evidence sources , secondly no strike two , and three perhaps we need some clarity from the rep I've read the earlier posts a lot of speculation without
proving a thing.

I can list more proof, but why spend the time. I have better things to do than entertaining an obvious shill.

 

[Kiwiguy]

I can list more proof, but why spend the time. I have better things to do than entertaining an obvious shill.

and this is to prove what exactly this is not a court of law and what your showing is not proof of anything and once again park your ignorance
at the door I am no shill.

 

[onkel]

and this is to prove what exactly this is not a court of law and what your showing is not proof of anything and once again park your ignorance
at the door I am no shill.

Obviously it's not proof to you, there will always be an explanation whatever I show you. That's how shilling works.

I have showed you something that shows that they're connected - e-mails aren't just accidentally sent via a competing casino's server. You've showed nothing that they aren't connected, but you're very adamant about telling us that they aren't

 

[Kiwiguy]

Obviously it's not proof to you, there will always be an explanation whatever I show you. That's how shilling works.

I have showed you something that shows that they're connected - e-mails aren't just accidentally sent via a competing casino's server. You've showed nothing that they aren't connected.

They can be if by technical error or by deliberate action that is assuming if I'm going to buy into the conspiracy theory to start with also its not very hard to work out Everymatrix runs a cluster of
clients ..CLIENTS..and every client states quite clearly that EM manages and operates the websites hence they are separately owned just a point of reference.
And if you really want to know what I do for a living feel free to fly over here and ill hand you a paint brush and cut you in a brush hand if your not already in the trade but hey lets just
stop there shill theory blown out the window and move onto another topic shall we.

 

[onkel]

They can be if by technical error or by deliberate action that is assuming if I'm going to buy into the conspiracy theory to start with also its not very hard to work out Everymatrix runs a cluster of
clients ..CLIENTS..and every client states quite clearly that EM manages and operates the websites hence they are separately owned just a point of reference.
And if you really want to know what I do for a living feel free to fly over here and ill hand you a paint brush and cut you in a brush hand if your not already in the trade but hey lets just
stop there shill theory blown out the window and move onto another topic shall we.

So it's more of a conspiracy theory that they are connected than that they aren't?

Yes, a newly launched casino geared towards the russian market (which slotobank is too), that uses russian traffic tracking services (the same as slotobank and no other EM casino) and that also sends its e-mails via slotobank's server, cannot possibly be interpreted being connected in any way without resorting to conspiracy theories. Especially given the fact that this brand has every reason in the world to try and not look connected to Slotobank which was voted the worst casino on the Internet.

 

[Kiwiguy]

mate I got some evidence for you too :



Now I've got some real biz to attend too all the best .

 

[onkel]

mate I got some evidence for you too :

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Now I've got some real biz to attend too all the best .

Ah, so you don't believe it's a real screenshot - now who's the conspiracy theorist?

 

[Morphesto]

Hi guys, I wasn't sure where to put this, so added here, please feel free to move it to the ncessary place mods.

Fresh off the heels of Slotobank being voted worst casino of the year in the 2014 CM awards, it seems the shysters aren't giving up easily. I received several intrusive spam phone calls in the first two months of the year, and today received an email from a new casino called SPINEMPIRE. It is actually quite professional looking, and quotes Odds/EveryMatrix as managers at the bottom, offering 125% bonus upto 500 for your 1st deposit. I clicked through and immediately noticed slotobank.mailersendblabla

I read thru all the website, and not a single mentioned of anything but Odds/EveryMatrix. Maybe I missed something, somewhere, but with these guys I am guessing not. So this is a warning to everyone to STEER CLEAR. What really jacks my jaw is a supposed reputable company like OddsMatrix keeps backing these guys, so whether GUTS and the other so called reputable casinos are reliable or not, I am personally pulling out any deposits and balances on any casino associated with OddsMatrix whilst they deal with this bunch of crooks. I used to trust this company, and ANY casino associated with them but not it is the opposite. Not least because I am worried Slotobank have/are learning from their mistakes and putting together a much slicker rogue operation and ditch their tarnished name.

Anyway I just wanted to warn people because they have been quite careful to avoid any association with the most rogue of casino outfits in their other casino Slotobank, but appeared to make one mistake in their spam email that trails back to them.

SMcS

Guy you knew exactly where to put it and you put it here as well xttp://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/spin-empire-slotobank-and-odds-everymatrix-helping-them-cover-it.889/ im picking
so that you could draw in a few folks to the party.

Hi all,



As said in the previous message we decided to take a more active attitude and this is want we do. Consequently we, EveryMatrix/OdsMatrix have opened an investigation on Slotobank/ SpinEmpire based on this thread. Please feel free to also reach out to support@everymatrix.com and drop a line. We will come back with a more detailed answer regarding this investigation and will inform upon the measures that will be taken. Thanks everyone for keeping aware and active and stay assured that we are the company that takes very seriously the security matters.



Best,
Bogdan @ EveryMatrix team

Greetings ,

I'm just curious the Malta Office told me that they haven't heard of you and further went onto say that an investigation wouldn't be handled in this manner would you be the Compliance Manager by chance ?
and hey that's a very quick investigation and quite an open one wouldn't there be ..Legal issues involved here ? I would assume that you have a disclosure agreement with your clients ? .

 

[slottymcslot]

Guy you knew exactly where to put it and you put it here as well xttp://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/spin-empire-slotobank-and-odds-everymatrix-helping-them-cover-it.889/ im picking
so that you could draw in a few folks to the party.



Greetings ,

I'm just curious the Malta Office told me that they haven't heard of you and further went onto say that an investigation wouldn't be handled in this manner would you be the Compliance Manager by chance ?
and hey that's a very quick investigation and quite an open one wouldn't there be ..Legal issues involved here ? I would assume that you have a disclosure agreement with your clients ? .

Morphesto,

I did not post on that forum or anywhere else, someone must've jacked it. Draw in a few folks to party? Ok, Shilly McShillerton. And EveryMatrix should've acted over a year ago, they knew full well what was going on with Slotocrap so I doubt any investigation was required. To make it worse they let them open another casino under their label, so when Slotocrap got caught out EM had to act fast. The whole thing is a mess and EM acted very poorly in the name of profit by allowing not only Slotocrap to continue in the face of internet wide blacklisting, but allow them to open another brand. I'd have been severely PO'ed if I was a running my casino on the EM licence, and I'd wager a large amount their other white labels were furious.

 

[paul7388]

Morphesto,

I did not post on that forum or anywhere else, someone must've jacked it. Draw in a few folks to party? Ok, Shilly McShillerton. And EveryMatrix should've acted over a year ago, they knew full well what was going on with Slotocrap so I doubt any investigation was required. To make it worse they let them open another casino under their label, so when Slotocrap got caught out EM had to act fast. The whole thing is a mess and EM acted very poorly in the name of profit by allowing not only Slotocrap to continue in the face of internet wide blacklisting, but allow them to open another brand. I'd have been severely PO'ed if I was a running my casino on the EM licence, and I'd wager a large amount their other white labels were furious.

I had a look at that forum where your post appeared. It looks like Its a gambling forum that's adding posts and threads from several other forums . Theres several from here and under your name and other OPs they show as guest.

So that forum shows The original posts made from here tho any replies are different. So I can sort of understand why morphesto incorrectly thought you had posted there. No idea tho who runs that forum or if they are connected to other forums or if they are just posting any threads they think look interesting.

 

[paul7388]

Lol actually the forum your post appeared is basically full of all the original posts from here from most members tho as its just started up there are very few replies.

Great way to build a forum. Just fill it with threads from here. Least it shows you never posted your complaint elsewhere.

 

[slottymcslot]

Lol actually the forum your post appeared is basically full of all the original posts from here from most members tho as its just started up there are very few replies.

Great way to build a forum. Just fill it with threads from here. Least it shows you never posted your complaint elsewhere.

It was a link between Sloto and Spin that I caught, rather than a complaint. If people want to report it elsewhere they are free, I don't care. My issue is rather the guy (Morphesto, not to be confused with Maphesto, purposefully named?) seems like a sloto shill to me (new member, similar name to known member here) with the tone of his message trying to discredit me and whatever BS he said about EM.

It's just amazing that a casino that was given IMO a golden setup on a platform with an established & trusted name who obviously gave them a mailing list of OM/EM customers (poses questions of whose customer databases they were giving Sloto) which they spammed the hell out of, they had an opportunity to make real money legitimately. Instead they tried to steal and screw the vast majority of their players. EM let them get away with it for quite a long time which tarnished their and their other casinos names, THEN they setup another casino on EM platform (who signed off on that???) and repeated said tactics and.. well I don't have words, it would be laughable if not sad.

 

[Morphesto]

It was a link between Sloto and Spin that I caught, rather than a complaint. If people want to report it elsewhere they are free, I don't care. My issue is rather the guy (Morphesto, not to be confused with Maphesto, purposefully named?) seems like a sloto shill to me (new member, similar name to known member here) with the tone of his message trying to discredit me and whatever BS he said about EM.

It's just amazing that a casino that was given IMO a golden setup on a platform with an established & trusted name who obviously gave them a mailing list of OM/EM customers (poses questions of whose customer databases they were giving Sloto) which they spammed the hell out of, they had an opportunity to make real money legitimately. Instead they tried to steal and screw the vast majority of their players. EM let them get away with it for quite a long time which tarnished their and their other casinos names, THEN they setup another casino on EM platform (who signed off on that???) and repeated said tactics and.. well I don't have words, it would be laughable if not sad.

You Obviously have a beef with Sloto if its about loosing some money why not just PAB , I've noted a lot of people here are operating with advanced knowledge that would have never normally been known ,
I'm not trying I'm doing it you posted elsewhere and are denying it now , and a sketchy rep to validate all the "allegations" and "speculation" epic success/failure .

 

[Tirilej]

You Obviously have a beef with Sloto if its about loosing some money why not just PAB , I've noted a lot of people here are operating with advanced knowledge that would have never normally been known ,
I'm not trying I'm doing it you posted elsewhere and are denying it now , and a sketchy rep to validate all the "allegations" and "speculation" epic success/failure .

What kind of talk is that? If you try to understand what Paul wrote then it is posts stolen from here and posted on that forum.
Of course he's denying what he haven't done. Don't just accuse people please.

The sketchy rep is for real though otherwise he wouldn't be a rep here.

 

[slottymcslot]

You Obviously have a beef with Sloto if its about loosing some money why not just PAB , I've noted a lot of people here are operating with advanced knowledge that would have never normally been known ,
I'm not trying I'm doing it you posted elsewhere and are denying it now , and a sketchy rep to validate all the "allegations" and "speculation" epic success/failure .

If I had posted it anywhere else I wouldn't deny it; I don't care. I posted here and only here because Casinomeister have helped me recoup money from casinos (check the PAB 2 under my name, I am well aware what a PAB is) I saw something was off and thought I'd be a good samaritan to my fellow players.

There is no conspiracy, unless most portals & player forums are working together to bring down the innocent Slotobank. I posted about it here because they are clearly a bunch of rank amateur crooks, and they were starting up another site on the same platform hoping nobody would know it's the same crew (although the way they operate would've given it up pretty quickly, they are clearly not smart enough to know that) and they were sloppy covering the connection between Spin Empire and Slotobank, thus it became a PR mess for EM. The worrying aspect is EM had to be "in on it" until Sloto were sloppy and they got caught. If I hadn't have posted my mere observation, someone would've posted within hours, days, a week whatever, with the sent from X via Slotobank.com and anyone of the other slip ups connecting the two that have filtered out.

However you're right about one thing - I doubt there was much of an investigation as there wasn't any need for one, SB have broken every rule in the book already and basically shat on player fairness and rights, and a purely educated guess would be that the other established casinos on EM aggressively voiced concerns leaving EM no choice but to pull the plug.

At least for me, I have no prior/advanced knowledge, just what I see on my screen like everyone else. But given your poor English I am taking a wild guess you are a Sloto employee or some sort (they appear to be Russian also with pretty poor English), so I'm really wasting my time responding to you.

 

[onkel]

You Obviously have a beef with Sloto if its about loosing some money why not just PAB , I've noted a lot of people here are operating with advanced knowledge that would have never normally been known ,
I'm not trying I'm doing it you posted elsewhere and are denying it now , and a sketchy rep to validate all the "allegations" and "speculation" epic success/failure .

Wow, new level of shilling. You signed up yesterday, did a few random posts, then today go on a full-blown attack on posters here who inform/complain about a casino that has scammed A LOT of players over the past year, has an obvious connection to a recently launched brand called Spinempire, and was voted the worst casino on the internet by ALL of Casinomeister? Yeah, I'm sure you're just a regular poster.

 

[hausse222]

They´ve created a new standard of "evilness".

 

[Morphesto]

Morphesto,

I did not post on that forum or anywhere else, someone must've jacked it. Draw in a few folks to party? Ok, Shilly McShillerton. And EveryMatrix should've acted over a year ago, they knew full well what was going on with Slotocrap so I doubt any investigation was required. To make it worse they let them open another casino under their label, so when Slotocrap got caught out EM had to act fast. The whole thing is a mess and EM acted very poorly in the name of profit by allowing not only Slotocrap to continue in the face of internet wide blacklisting, but allow them to open another brand. I'd have been severely PO'ed if I was a running my casino on the EM licence, and I'd wager a large amount their other white labels were furious.

Someone calling themselves slottymcslot forum status guest thread post march 7 under section casino forum thread contents almost an exact duplicate with a CM thread source or should i say diving board to this thread
I find the possibility of a random person who would use your name to the jack the post far fetching to say the least at any rate the logic speak's for itself.

Also it would be good if we could have some official validation of the Everymatrix Representative as I have reason to believe they not with the company there are grey areas
and procedure inconsistencies. (Also it's being investigated)

 

[onkel]

Someone calling themselves slottymcslot forum status guest thread post march 7 under section casino forum thread contents almost an exact duplicate with a CM thread source or should i say diving board to this thread
I find the possibility of a random person who would use your name to the jack the post far fetching to say the least at any rate the logic speak's for itself.

Also it would be good if we could have some official validation of the Everymatrix Representative as I have reason to believe they not with the company there are grey areas
and procedure inconsistencies.

If you look at the color of the Everymatrix user's username it's red - this means that CM has validated this rep. At the very least they've been communicating via an Everymatrix e-mail address - so if Everymatrix haven't heard about Bogdan, it's probably wise not to let him have an e-mail address with them


EDIT: Perhaps you could tell us who you are - random people don't usually go about calling a white label office to ensure the procedures are correctly followed when it comes to deciding whether a rogue casino should get to keep their license or not. A casino which the players have voted the worst on the internet.

 

[Morphesto]

If you look at the color of the Everymatrix user's username it's red - this means that CM has validated this rep. At the very least they've been communicating via an Everymatrix e-mail address - so if Everymatrix haven't heard about Bogdan, it's probably wise not to let him have an e-mail address with them


EDIT: Perhaps you could tell us who you are - random people don't usually go about calling a white label office to ensure the procedures are correctly followed when it comes to deciding whether a rogue casino should get to keep their license or not. A casino which the players have voted the worst on the internet.

Thank you for your input onkel now I'll continue to wait for that official validation oh and I'm interested because I find it intriguing nothing more argue as you will .

 

[paul7388]

Someone calling themselves slottymcslot forum status guest thread post march 7 under section casino forum thread contents almost an exact duplicate with a CM thread source or should i say diving board to this thread
I find the possibility of a random person who would use your name to the jack the post far fetching to say the least at any rate the logic speak's for itself.

Also it would be good if we could have some official validation of the Everymatrix Representative as I have reason to believe they not with the company there are grey areas
and procedure inconsistencies. (Also it's being investigated)

As I have already explained to you. The forum in question is a new forum opened. It states it is using the best from all forums which basically means the owner is going around the net taking peoples posts and posting them in his forum. Their are posts from Dunover, Tirilej , etc as well who would not have signed up there.

If you read through the threads in that forum you will see many duplicates from here all with the same user names as here. They all appear as guests. So like has been explained nobody from here is posting in that forum. The posts are all just copied from here. Check yourself how many there are, and also check that none of the posters are members at that forum. All are members here and have guest under their usernames there.

 

[Tirilej]

As I have already explained to you. The forum in question is a new forum opened. It states it is using the best from all forums which basically means the owner is going around the net taking peoples posts and posting them in his forum. Their are posts from Dunover, Tirilej , etc as well who would not have signed up there.

If you read through the threads in that forum you will see many duplicates from here all with the same user names as here. They all appear as guests. So like has been explained nobody from here is posting in that forum. The posts are all just copied from here. Check yourself how many there are, and also check that none of the posters are members at that forum. All are members here and have guest under their usernames there.

Now I had to check that place when you mentioned my name.
Obviously I have as a guest started an exact same thread in there as I have here

What kind of creepy idiots are steeling my posts, and several of others?

Besides that this Morphesto obviously is some Slotobank/Spinempire employee he at least brought this place to our attention. I wonder if he is the person in there who had replied to the OP's post. It was just one reply and one that was defending them

PS. Now I also remembered that our dear Maphesto has been awol for some time so I finally asked him to let me know he was still alive.
He was

 

[paul7388]

Now I had to check that place when you mentioned my name.
Obviously I have as a guest started an exact same thread in there as I have here

What kind of creepy idiots are steeling my posts, and several of others?

Besides that this Morphesto obviously is some Slotobank/Spinempire employee he at least brought this place to our attention. I wonder if he is the person in there who had replied to the OP's post. It was just one reply and one that was defending them

PS. Now I also remembered that our dear Maphesto has been awol for some time so I finally asked him to let me know he was still alive.
He was

Lol I knew you would that's why I mentioned your name.

I never checked it much just long enough to see there were several posts from all different CM users on it. The reason there are no replies to much I would guess is because there aren't a lot of members as its new. But thanks to posts from here and other places its quite busy lol.