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Spearmaster Western Union and All Thanks

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by duke7123, May 28, 2006.

    May 28, 2006
  1. duke7123

    duke7123 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    CEO
    Location:
    Philippines
    First of all I would like to thank all of you for your input and advise. they state that because even if the transaction was done by me here in the Philippines ,it has to go though a channel which is located in the USA any and all transactions go though them in the states, that is how they were able to stop me. I had conversation with the site and they told me that they have agents that pick the funds up for them and then give it to the site. I have also had phone conversation with the site and was told that Western Union can do nothing. Well they did they held my funds and fees until they get the information that they are asking for. They claim that under the W/U aggrements that they have a right even when I get back in the states to requied the informatioon from me if I don't comply with their request. In the letter that I received they also mention that if these funds were sent for any other reason that what their policy states, that I might be able to have them returned to me via the agent or the 3rd party receiver. I could go on and tell more in the letter that I received here at my home in Philippines and by the way I was informed that a letter was also sent to my home in USA. So as you can see I am trying to get a handel on this. It seems that they are after the other parties and not me but just want the information from me. By the tone of the letter it sounds like they want to go after to whom the money went to.

    I also would like to say that I don't have a gambling problem and sent 15K+ and that is not unsual for a player in 6 months. Maybe I am playing the wrong site. All I know that all of this was condoned by the site and that maybe I should just give the name to them and also all of the online chats and emails that I have received from them, even telling me that Western Union on their end has blocked the names of who to send the money to. I had to find out the hard way from them that the person that I sent to was blocked. So the site provided me with additional names. This would change like once a week I had no idea what was going on until I received a block and emails from the site. After all of this I am not sure as to how and or what to do. One thing is for sure that I guess the end play would be is to get an attorney as I have done here in the Philippines as well as talk to my attorney in the states. I will say that I did send money again to the site under my wifes madian name and that they site accepted it and credited my account even she was not a a registered player. As you can see its very complex for me as who did what wrong? If anyone has in put who did what wrong please let me know your feelings or suggestions. Once again thanks to all!!! :confused:

    Duke
     
  2. May 28, 2006
  3. Kotsy1

    Kotsy1 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    social worker
    Location:
    USA
    *

    Duke, could you please include a link to the original post? Sounds quite interesting.
     
  4. May 28, 2006
  5. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Look one or two threads below this one Kotsy.
     
  6. May 28, 2006
  7. duke7123

    duke7123 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    CEO
    Location:
    Philippines
    I guess you will go to search post by duke

    I am pretty new to this site so not sure how to do that. I will look on here and see if I can learn it.

    Sorry

    Duke
     
  8. May 28, 2006
  9. The Watchdog

    The Watchdog Dormant account

    Occupation:
    sports, poker, casinos
    Location:
    Costa Rica
    IMHO

    No one has done anything wrong...

    The only thing wrong here is that the US is really focusing on stoping online gambling.

    WU tries to be in good terms with the US goverment, however, why would they invest efforts and company funds to monitor transactions... As I said before... The gambling industry generates millions of $$$ a year to Western Union, I guarantee you they are happy with that. On the other hand they also want to be in good terms with the US goverment. Who wouldn't?? Any ways, they can't allow one guy sending $10.000 in one month to the same @%@#% country and probably to the same @%@# person in 20 transactions... is just to obvious that those funds are not for helping your starving brother or sponsoring a shelter for the homeless.

    So thats my belief...I don't think is nonesense... Why would Western Union deny probably... lets say ... $20.000.000 a year on gambling related transactions?? It is needless to say they want to be in good terms with Uncle Sam, on the other hand thats too much money; reason why they can't allow paterns and transactions that are easy to spot.

    Just imagine first sunday of the next NFL season, let say that between Saturday night and Sunday night, John Doe from Texas sends 6 transactions of $1000 each to (latin name) in some south american country?? DUUUUHHHH GAMBLING HELLO!!!... in adittion to that... on tuesday this guy is expecting $5000 coming from another south american country... duuuuhhhhhhh Withdrawl....

    So, my god, you don't need to have a PhD on Rocket Science to know what is going on...

    Keep it quiet and smart and everyone will avoid these awful experiences...
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2006
  10. May 28, 2006
  11. duke7123

    duke7123 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    CEO
    Location:
    Philippines
    I don't think you read all Of what has happen here

    First of all I have posted in one of my threads some of what the email and letter sent me. I was blocked by western union..... So they are not wanting to stay in good grace with US they are owned and part of First data and traded on the NYSE. It is very clear that they mean business or why else would all of this take place. Also after reading the Carl Hutton letter if it is fact true? ON PAGE 2 it even talks about having a list of names that would collect the funds for the sites that were sent via western union. So you see I have posted some of the same information about what the site was doing that I played and its a Microgaming site. So maybe his story is true, if I were you I would really look at W/U site and see that they are not scared they have a legal obligation to only send money per their polices. I would like to say thanks for the information. However in the past 2 days I have done my homework. Getting ready to try an avoid having anyone getting hurt in this matter including the online site.

    Thanks so much for your help!

    Duke
     

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