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Spam, spam and more spam

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by Rollo, Aug 16, 2006.

    Aug 16, 2006
  1. Rollo

    Rollo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Beekeeper
    Location:
    Tropic of Cancer
    Hello all,

    I'm the ower of another webportal... You must register/login in order to see the link.. It's far from being complete so no need to visit it now. A side project at best.

    Anyway, I've been a member of various affiliate programs since 2004 and I beleive that two programs, Casino Partners and Brightshare (or some evil employee of the same) have sold, given, passed, loaned, confered, or leaked my email to spammers. I was wondering if anyone else, player or affilate, has had a similar experience.

    I'm not taking about bonus offers and such mind you, I mean SPAM... penis enlargers, Viagra, et al. numbering in the 1000s.

    Why do I think this? Three reasons...

    1) I signed up using very distinctive email... i.e. This email is not visible to you.. Spammers tend to use random things like This email is not visible to you., This email is not visible to you., This email is not visible to you. etc... when they know a domain is active. Not This email is not visible to you..

    2) I beleive the domain was active well before I signed up to Brightsahre, but only started receiving spam afterwards (the dates are a bit fuzzy but it seems right afterward).

    3) I've used similar emails at numerous other affilaite programs and have received no such spam from them.

    Same goes for Casino Partners.

    I brought it to their attention and I got the following responses:

    From Adi Elliott at Casino Partners...

    "I assure you we have not sold anyone's email address to spammers, as we treat
    all emails as confidential (after all, our client list and their contact info
    is a closely guarded secrets). We also have problems with spammers, but I'm
    not sure how that particular email address found its way to you."

    From Lloyd Apter at Brightshare...

    "Many people know brightshare and could do this. There is no connection to us, sorry..."

    Before I go postal on them, I'd like to know your thoughts, questions, comments...

    You're the jury. That is the evidence. What is your verdict? Guilty or Not Guilty?

    Screen shots of the offending spam available upon request.

    Much obliged!

    Rollo
     
  2. Aug 16, 2006
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I could almost guarantee it's CP. If you read this thread, you'll come to the same conclusion.

    The reason I say this is that when the Vegas Red, Tropez, and Europa spam started, I also had an increase in the porn, viagra, etc spam that was going to the same address.

    CP still claims to this day that a 3rd party company that they had prior dealings with is sending this stuff (the casino spam); but yet won't do anything about it. They claim to have no affiliation with this said company anymore. Yea right.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2006
  4. Aug 16, 2006
  5. kwblue

    kwblue Webmaster webmeister

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    USA
    I also got spam after signing on with CP. It started during the Hi-Roller campaing and continued with Viagra and the same stuff winbig was talking about (also 'buy this stock now' spam).

    I can guarantee it was from CP as I used a specific email addy for CP that I didn't use for anyone else.
     
  6. Aug 17, 2006
  7. Rollo

    Rollo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Beekeeper
    Location:
    Tropic of Cancer
    Interesting...

    Here's a little a sample of what I have... I just had to do a seach on the keyword "penis" in my Eudora inbox and I get a screen full or this crap.

    Courtesy of Mr. Loyd Apter's organization Brightshare...

    ................................................................................................

    Return-Path: <RECORJCKBNVBSQ@www.kegel.com>
    Delivered-To: This email is not visible to you.
    Received: (qmail 23212 invoked by uid 110); 12 Apr 2006 08:00:11 -0000
    Delivered-To: This email is not visible to you.
    Received: (qmail 23209 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2006 08:00:07 -0000
    Received: from unknown (HELO 68.178.144.131) (218.23.252.199)
    by ip-68-178-144-131.ip.secureserver.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2006 08:00:07 -0000
    Received: from astronautic. brandenburg.bequest.apartheid.es ([75.107.76.33] helo=will.mail.desty.org)
    by smtp8.desty.org with esmtp
    id 9A545j-0761FN-00; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:52:25 -0100
    Message-Id: <E1A572M-5374nV-00RECORJCKBNVBSQ@www.kegel.com>
    Sender: This email is not visible to you.
    Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:51:25 +0500
    In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:52:25 +0400."
    <20031002150239.GG32185@asuka.tech.sitadelle.com>
    From: "Jannie Boykin" <RECORJCKBNVBSQ@www.kegel.com>
    To: This email is not visible to you.
    Subject: Re: Re: Re:


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    ................................................................................................

    Courtesy of Mr. Adi Elliott's organization Casino Partners...


    Return-Path: <clean394@gmail.com>
    Delivered-To: This email is not visible to you.
    Received: (qmail 19419 invoked by uid 110); 31 Jan 2006 04:19:59 -0000
    Delivered-To: This email is not visible to you.
    Received: (qmail 19417 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2006 04:19:59 -0000
    Received: from 210.213.147.190.pldt.net (HELO IGRAFX14.iesiu.com) (210.213.147.190)
    by ip-68-178-144-131.ip.secureserver.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2006 04:19:59 -0000
    Received: from unknown (HELO gsmtp185.google.com) (64.233.185.27)
    by IGRAFX14.iesiu.com with SMTP; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:26:58 -0800
    From: "Morgan Bullock" <clean394@gmail.com>
    To: <casinopartners@bocguide.com>
    Subject: Stronger climaxes and orgasms
    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:26:58 -0800
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
    Thread-Index: 3XVYtNvNXfzrpDEmHgR3bkzykbRZ1THDHTGs
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="Windows-1252"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


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    ................................................................................................

    By the way, having been a statistician in a previous life, does anyone have a sneaking suspicion that these two, and especially Casino Partners, doesn't, let's say, follow though on their end of the deal financially speaking.

    I had Vegas Red, Del Rio, and Tropez in the heavy rotation for a long time and have never receveied a dime for them. The links work as I could see their system was picking up the traffic. Not that I get a ton of traffic, but I've received tens of thousands of $$$ collectively from other programs over the same period and with comparable traffic... even a few scraps from Brightsahre. It seems statistically unlikely that this happened randomly, but I was wondering if you've had similar issues?

    Thanks again,

    Rollo
     
  8. Aug 17, 2006
  9. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    I do nothing productive
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Same thing happened to me.

    But the SPAM really increased when I blacklisted 888, on average I get 1500 spam emails a day now...

    I don't think it is CP so much as one or two bad employees trying to make a few extra bucks by selling the addresses.
     
  10. Sep 8, 2006
  11. Rollo

    Rollo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Beekeeper
    Location:
    Tropic of Cancer
    The newest and most exciting fat Ioss product available

    So 888.com spams your email as well? I've not recevied any from them, but I continue to receive spam form Casino Partners (todays featued spam "Feel oung again with Regenisis HGH") and Brightshare (today's featured spam "Anatrim -- The newest and most exciting fat Ioss product available - As scen on Oprah"). That would their spelling of "seen on Oprah" and "fat Loss", oung and the rest...

    Thanks for the input, I didn't know about 888.com I'm, using them on a new site I'm launching in two weeks or so in 13 langauges (due largely to the lack of other foreign language options).
     
  12. Sep 9, 2006
  13. wangpoker

    wangpoker Experienced Member PABnononaccred2 webmeister

    Occupation:
    affiliate marketing
    Location:
    Ontario/Canada
    they spam me everyday.
    vegas red should be blacklisted
     
  14. Sep 10, 2006
  15. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    If you ask me, all of the casinos/poker rooms that they promote should be blacklisted. (Casino partners as well as CPays)

    The affiliate company for allowing affiliates to spam.
    &
    The casinos for not switching companies, therefore allowing the spam to continue.


    If all casinos started switching advertising companies because of the spam, maybe these places would crack down on these ahole affiliates.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2006
  16. Sep 10, 2006
  17. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    Unfortunately this industry doesn't change until either the majority of affiliates (the ones with influence) get b/hind a cause; the scumware battle was a good example, or it start to really hit the bottom line of the casinos in question.

    A good example of this is the 888 issue.

    It unfortunately seems the bottom line out-weights integrity.
     
  18. Sep 10, 2006
  19. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    I am very much sick of these spam emails:

    I was convinced that these were coming from the Gold Key/Hampton/Portofino group of casinos, because they all use the same "technique" of replacing letters with numbers/symbols the same way they do in their promotional emails (i.e. G0LD KEY CAS!N0, HAMPT0N CAS1N0, etc.). How childish. I fired off a nasty email to all three of them telling them to stop spamming me, thinking it would solve the problem. Now I get even more offers, from Rolex watches to products that will help a "not very good erecxction" and a whole bunch of other crap. Thank goodness Google's spam filter works so well.
     
  20. Sep 12, 2006
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Spam increase

    I have noted a considerable increase in this Spam, including the Hi-Roller and other casino offers. I have never had dealings with Brightshare or CP though. There must be another route being used, at least in some cases, to get the email addresses.
    I use 3 distinct addresses, one private, one for forum profiles, and one for the website. I have capacity for 12 more, but I don't want to have to keep changing them. I once made the mistake of using my private one on a forum, but I have since learned this is somewhat unwise.
    I recently noticed a number of far more serious Spams advertising movie porn featuring "underage" action - advertised with the most offensive and direct language imaginable. These looked like they came along with the casino and penis products.
     
  22. Sep 12, 2006
  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    Are these 'disposable' accounts? What they're doing is cycling though every combination out there trying to find valid email addresses. Once they do, they continue spamming them.

    I'm surprised google and others haven't stopped this by now..it's quite easy.
     
  24. Sep 12, 2006
  25. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Clever sods!

    Previously I was told that they could only validate an E-mail address as being real if the spam was replied to. Perhaps this is not so any longer, and they spam away if no "undeliverable" bounce message is received.

    My private one is difficult to change as it would be the equivalent of moving house and needing to get all companies concerned to update their records. The other two are less valuable, and the remaining 12 slots can be filled. If they just cycle through all combinations it will not be long before they hit valid addresses again.

    The problem with filters is that many legitimate e-mails get thrown out too, such as my bonus offers!
     
  26. Sep 12, 2006
  27. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    One thing to try would be to change each of your spam filters to reply with a "fake" bounce message to the sender instead of deleting it.

    I haven't tried this, but it should work in theory.

    Actually, scratch that. They don't use real reply-to addresses.

    As soon as the server accepts the mail for that account, they know it's valid.


    Did you know you can create a "whitelist" for mail you actually want? That supercedes all spam filters.
     
  28. Sep 12, 2006
  29. siilix

    siilix Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    HR
    Location:
    the land of despair and darkness
    Hello!
    Anyone receive this?

    object of the mail: Good luck ******(my email first part)
    Just have a look!
    Click here...


    If I click there, it appears the download page of an unknown casino named Slotz City.


    I received tons of this everyday....:mad:
     
  30. Sep 12, 2006
  31. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Yes, it's all part of the same group spamming CPays casinos.
     
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