Some thoughts on security

[labeled]

I've been thinking about the whole Lindale processing company "thing" (surprise, we're not a processor, but you trusted us!) with QT's downfall...

Does it ever strike anyone else as insane the amount of personal information we are expected to fax/email/send in whatever form to what amount to completely unknown entities? I mean - first off, credit cards. By sending the front and back of your card (showing not only your number but your CVV AND signature), you've handed "someone" the keys to the castle. And in many cases, though casinos claim that the "cashier" handles that information - what proof do we have that those emails aren't just hanging around in their database? You would never, ever do this with Amazon or Paypal - but sending it to a company that is *already* bending laws is the norm?

Further, Lindale got me thinking that ostensibly, anyone could set up a payment processor and with a few well-presented sales pitches, have more keys to our castle - your banking information. Now, anytime you write a paper check you put this information in someone else's hands - but again, you're putting it into someone's hands who is already bending the law to their purpose, or outright breaking laws.

I guess I'm at the "talking myself out of depositing in any way/shape/form" stage now - and taking a hard look at the information I've put out there is a little disturbing.

 

[Mousey]

I've been thinking about the whole Lindale processing company "thing" (surprise, we're not a processor, but you trusted us!) with QT's downfall...

Does it ever strike anyone else as insane the amount of personal information we are expected to fax/email/send in whatever form to what amount to completely unknown entities? I mean - first off, credit cards. By sending the front and back of your card (showing not only your number but your CVV AND signature), you've handed "someone" the keys to the castle. And in many cases, though casinos claim that the "cashier" handles that information - what proof do we have that those emails aren't just hanging around in their database? You would never, ever do this with Amazon or Paypal - but sending it to a company that is *already* bending laws is the norm?

Further, Lindale got me thinking that ostensibly, anyone could set up a payment processor and with a few well-presented sales pitches, have more keys to our castle - your banking information. Now, anytime you write a paper check you put this information in someone else's hands - but again, you're putting it into someone's hands who is already bending the law to their purpose, or outright breaking laws.

I guess I'm at the "talking myself out of depositing in any way/shape/form" stage now - and taking a hard look at the information I've put out there is a little disturbing.

Yep! Totally nuts. Hubby saw me gather up info to email to CWC years ago, asked what I was doing, and he couldn't believe it. "You're doing WHAT?!?!??" followed by "Are you out of your mind??" He played poker online and I never recall him having to send all that info for 'verification'.

I only ever used prepaid card or gift cards. Would never, EVER use my bank card. But there's the copy of the utility bill, full name addy phone # yada yada, floating around in online casino land...

A couple years ago... there's a post in the Industry section somewhere ... one of the sportsbooks had a crooked employee working in the finanacial section/dept that stole players card #'s. Isn't that nice?

And they get suspicious if we don't want to send all that info??? Give me a break.

As I have posted elsewhere... all that personal info had to be given to NETeller, too. So, since NT rolled over, the feds know who I am, where I live, where I liked to play, how much I spent, the bank account I used, etc., etc.

Thems the chances we took. And it isn't a very good feeling.

Play at a B&M, take up another hobby, etc., etc.... I've said it all before... Gambling online is not worth the hassle.

 

[Gremmyboy]

Whenever I've sent a CC for verification I have always covered the 3 digit code on the back before scanning/taking a photo. They have always been accepted.
I thought the same thing... If someone was inclined to use my CC they had everything they needed with that 3 digit code. So I refuse to ever send a scan or photo of card unless that is covered.

With Bills etc... I always use my PO Box address as I don't want my home address floating around somewhere I have no control over.
Phone number is always a mobile and not a landline.

Have never had a problem with verification using these things to verify so it is possible to be verified without providing too much info!

Cheers
Gremmy

 

[felicie]

It is all rather unsettling when put on paper like you all have just done thank you very much but on the other hand, considering how few of us had our bank accounts cleaned out, I guess there are plenty of good ethical people in the business also. If you're really concerned now, the best thing to do would be to close your current accounts and open new ones. Just a thought.

 

[all4greed]

I've been thinking about the whole Lindale processing company "thing" (surprise, we're not a processor, but you trusted us!) with QT's downfall...

Does it ever strike anyone else as insane the amount of personal information we are expected to fax/email/send in whatever form to what amount to completely unknown entities?

Since the beginning of my online gambling, it has always bugged me. Years ago, I had my credit card info, address, everything posted on a website from some disgruntled casino employee. He/she/it also posted thousands of other players info. Kind of scary seeing your name and all that data listed for anyone to see. Also remember when some casinos wanted the faxback form notorized!

I drew the line at ECheckUS or whatever it was called. They wanted my SS number and it wasn't going to happen. Of course, they are toast now.

 

[footdr]

yep

Posted this elsewhere so don't yell at me for posting here, please.

I suggest everyone email QT and ask for their bank account info to be deleted which is allowed per their tc plus I asked that they delete all debit and credit info (but they probably won't comply with this request).

All account info is going to be turned over to Gov. just as it was by Neteller and Firepay, luckily they don't have manpower at the present time to investigate every account. Not to say they or IRS won't pursue in future, however their is a statute of limitations on this so keep fingers crossed.

I think this is probably more catastophic then past seizures in regard to online gambling.

Its basically over unless you want to risk it.

JUST my own opinion