some one has to make this call i believe

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VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency,the group "Americans for Freedom of Information"

has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry

Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court

order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for

foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, forthe scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups,



Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.



Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent

upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep

indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T !

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?



While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama

answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?

A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?

A: There are only three possibilities.

1) He traveled with a U.S.. Passport,

2) He traveled with a British passport, or

3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S.

Passport in 1981?

A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State

Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was

traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.



If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling

with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.



Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "naturalborn" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,the

sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go into your cocoon.

If you do care then Forward this!




Thank you so much for your time, a info letter sent to me by a relative R C
 

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I have always believed it was a cover up, Mr. Obama was prolly born in Kenya, thus the hard time it took to get his US birth certificate that so many of his campers wouldnt provide at first, this should be interesting, no matter what political side your on............laurie

edit: isnt this old news?
 
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If true - I haven't been following the debate on Obama's citizenship that closely - this certainly raises some intriguing questions, including why the President has apparently sought to block enquiries into his background.

The Hollrath bit is rather old, I discovered on a Google search that took me to Wiki at
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which dates from around March 2008.

There's a lot of other stuff on Google if you insert Paul Hollrath+FSM.

Not sure how current the AP report is on the Donofrio action in the US Supreme Court.

Postscript - it looks as if the Donofrio issue has been going on since late 2008 as well:

Quote:

Below is an update on the Leo C. Donofrio NJ lawsuit that states that Obama is ineligible to be president. The lawsuit is currently appealed before the US Supreme Court:

Applicant, Leo C. Donofrio, submitted a renewed application for emergency stay of the 08 national election to The Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas on Nov. 14, 2008 by US Postal Express Mail which was delivered at 7:46 AM, Nov. 17, 2008.

The renewed application hit the US Supreme Court on-line docket search engine sometime between noon and 2:15 PM today, Nov. 18, 2008. Unquote

There are presumably later developments.
 

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Speculation on where Obama was born has been going on for a long time. We wont get any answers and the case will be dropped soon.People who wont stop at this fail to see that if they are correct about Obama not being Born here, then Joe Biden will be our next president. At this point, it really serves no point in pursuing the Birthplace of Obama.
 

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Speculation on where Obama was born has been going on for a long time. We wont get any answers and the case will be dropped soon.People who wont stop at this fail to see that if they are correct about Obama not being Born here, then Joe Biden will be our next president. At this point, it really serves no point in pursuing the Birthplace of Obama.
OMG didnt think of it that way, Blundering Biden or Botox Nancy P.:eek: so who is 4th in line, i wonder?
 

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OMG didnt think of it that way, Blundering Biden or Botox Nancy P.:eek: so who is 4th in line, i wonder?
1 Vice President Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense Robert Gates[2]
7 Attorney General Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano
 

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1 Vice President Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense Robert Gates[2]
7 Attorney General Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

YUCK:eek::eek::eek:
 

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This list is who can be the next president if the one next in line can't. Joe Biden or anyone else that takes over if Obama was not born in this country, can choose anyone they want to be V.P. They can choose their next door neighbor to be V.P. and congress just has to approve it. I say leave bad enough alone, because we know what we get with Obama and looks as if all he has is 3 more years now.
 
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:lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup:

Did anyone even bother checking Snopes? This is a fake article that came out on APRIL 1st, 2009. Does that date ring a bell? It's April Fool's day, if it doesn't.

Read it for yourself...

edit: Yes, I fell for this at first, too, but when I couldn't find any articles via Google News, I checked snopes. :p

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Cliff notes:

The article is datelined "April 1, 2009" and tagged "AP," signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency. The date is a giveaway to the hoax (it's April Fool's Day), and the text of the article does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.

The was no such group as "Americans for Freedom of Information" at the time this article began circulating (although someone has since registered a site using that domain name); in fact, a web site for the then-faux organization was established to poke fun at those who believed it did:


Read these tiny words very closely: the group Americans for Freedom of Information does not exist, just like the supposed "AP article" you keep cutting and pasting into e-mails to your irritated family does not exist, just like the "Daily Mail article" referenced in the fake "AP article" does not exist. They're all fabrications. Fakes. Hoaxes. Ask yourself why you're so eager to believe these obvious fakes. No, really. Really, really ask yourself.

Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):
Jim Tranquada, Occidental's Director of Communications, said: "Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman 'Lookbook' published at the beginning of President Obama's first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama."
 

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oh my god I'm gonna wring my nieces neck she is always sending me this stuff

I'm so sorry if its a hoax
 

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Speculation on where Obama was born has been going on for a long time. We wont get any answers and the case will be dropped soon.People who wont stop at this fail to see that if they are correct about Obama not being Born here, then Joe Biden will be our next president. At this point, it really serves no point in pursuing the Birthplace of Obama.
It's gone so terribly wrong when the most we can hope for is the lessor of the evils, but I agree it is a little late now to worry about birthplace and just hope it will be at the least, a wake up call for many.

And this snopes thing, am I to believe they have absolutely no agenda of their own anywhere and we are therefore to believe theirs is the final word on all things true or false, real or not real on the internet? well as Butch said to Sundance, "Who are those guys?" LOL
 

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It's gone so terribly wrong when the most we can hope for is the lessor of the evils, but I agree it is a little late now to worry about birthplace and just hope it will be at the least, a wake up call for many.

And this snopes thing, am I to believe they have absolutely no agenda of their own anywhere and we are therefore to believe theirs is the final word on all things true or false, real or not real on the internet? well as Butch said to Sundance, "Who are those guys?" LOL
Did you read the whole page about this on snopes? The evidence they presented is more than overwhelming.

And no, they don't have an agenda. They simply state the facts and that's about it.
 

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Did you read the whole page about this on snopes? The evidence they presented is more than overwhelming.

And no, they don't have an agenda. They simply state the facts and that's about it.
Yes winbig and not even arguing with you really, more like frustration from not knowing who to believe these days. peace;)
 

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VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency,the group "Americans for Freedom of Information"

has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry

Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court

order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for

foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, forthe scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups,



Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.



Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent

upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep

indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T !

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?



While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama

answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?

A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?

A: There are only three possibilities.

1) He traveled with a U.S.. Passport,

2) He traveled with a British passport, or

3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S.

Passport in 1981?

A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State

Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was

traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.



If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling

with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.



Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "naturalborn" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,the

sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go into your cocoon.

If you do care then Forward this!




Thank you so much for your time, a info letter sent to me by a relative R C
That's all just a smokescreen to keep you off the real dealio, Rockycatt:
Obama is really an alien from the planet that orbits the junk in your toenails!

In fact, Obama, spelled backwards, spells, you guessed it! Amabo which is alienspeak for "junk in toenails orbiter"!

Isn't that devious?! To say nothing of the fact that something so vital, like the President of the United States' true origin's, could have been kept under wraps, all this time, even with the 100s of millions of man-hours invested, by patriots just like yourself, in doing nothing else other than trying to find a single speck of evidence that Barak Obama is not an American by birth. Something that has never even been a question in the minds of anyone other than a few nutbags (who, by law, cannot even be made to take medication without proving, beyond a doubt, that they might cause themselves, or others, physical harm) who watch the Fox Network and truly believe they are watching actual "news" broadcasts. Oh yeah, and a few disgruntled Klansmen cuz they get beat up every time they wear their KKK outfits in public.

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T !
They WONT? My ASS they wouldn't! You think the combined efforts of Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Dennis Prager, Sarah Palin, etc, (plus all these 100 Twitter nutbags:
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) all of which, last time I checked, are at least loosely, considered to be in the "media", are going to get scooped by you???? With their resources and millions of ears to the ground, all clamoring over each other to get even the tiniest, microscopic, speck of dirt on Obama and blast it out into the world via every radio wave, digital broadcast, social network and homing pigeon they can get their red little hands on?????

K. If you say so. Since we're friends Ima just take your word on it. And if you're right I'll shit a Peterbuilt. You pick the paint job and accessories.
 

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That's all just a smokescreen to keep you off the real dealio, Rockycatt:
Obama is really an alien from the planet that orbits the junk in your toenails!

In fact, Obama, spelled backwards, spells, you guessed it! Amabo which is alienspeak for "junk in toenails orbiter"!

Isn't that devious?! To say nothing of the fact that something so vital, like the President of the United States' true origin's, could have been kept under wraps, all this time, even with the 100s of millions of man-hours invested, by partiots just like youself, in doing nothing else other than trying to find a single speck of evidence that Barak Obama is not an American by birth. Something that has never even been a question in the minds of anyone other than a few nutbags (who, by law, cannot even be made to take medication without proving, beyond a doubt, that they might cause themselves, or others, physical harm) who watch the Fox Network and truly believe they are watching actual "news" broadcasts. Oh yeah, and a few disgruntled Klansmen cuz they get beat up every time they wear their KKK outfits in public.
Bern, what am i gonna do with you, so now im a nutbag and im really not watching "real news.".............Oh My!!! Dear Sweet Bern, ill make a decent Conservative Republican out of you yet:D.............laurie ........... btw, we know now its a hoax lol
 

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Bern, what am i gonna do with you, so now im a nutbag and im really not watching "real news.".............Oh My!!! Dear Sweet Bern, ill make a decent Conservative Republican out of you yet:D.............laurie ........... btw, we know now its a hoax lol
I had been meaning to tell you but just didn't know how... :oops: Whats a hoax? The OP? How on Earth could you possibly have found that out? LOL

Well, "With their resources and millions of ears to the ground, all clamoring over each other to get even the tiniest, microscopic, speck of dirt on Obama and blast it out into the world via every radio wave, digital broadcast, social network and homing pigeon they can get their red little hands on?????" ya gotta figure on at least some looking for a reality show deal or at least 15 minutes of fame.

And even Conservative Republicans are allowed to know the difference between the Fox Network, News, and Circus Clowns. (Hint: two out of three have absolutely nothing, even remotely, to do with "news", by any stretch of the imagination.) Real Republicans don't watch Fox unless it's for the same reason one might watch The Ice Capades.

Now I'm not saying that Fox has NO news but:

A study by the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA),[38] in the Winter 03-04 issue of Political Science Quarterly, reported that viewers of Fox News, the Fox Broadcasting Company, and local Fox affiliates were more likely than viewers of other news networks to hold three misperceptions:[39]
  • 67% of Fox viewers believed that the "U.S. has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam Hussein was working closely with the al Qaeda terrorist organization" (Compared with 56% for CBS, 49% for NBC, 48% for CNN, 45% for ABC, 16% for NPR/PBS).
  • The belief that "The U.S. has found Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq" was held by 33% of FOX viewers and only 23% of CBS viewers, 19% for ABC, 20% for NBC, 20% for CNN and 11% for NPR/PBS
  • 35% of Fox viewers believed that "the majority of people [in the world] favor the U.S. having gone to war" with Iraq. (Compared with 28% for CBS, 27% for ABC, 24% for CNN, 20% for NBC, 5% for NPR/PBS)
 
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