I dont remember which post or postee wrote about how he/she seemed to win only when they were new to a casino. This really interested me because it sounded VERY familiar. So I did my own research and it may be purely coincedental (please decide for yourself) but I went back through about 8 casinos where I had done well with cashouts and in each one, it was in fact when I was brand spanking new that I had BIG cash outs! NEVER with the bonus's but within my first few large deposits. At two of the casinos I did notice that after spending $8-10K I finally won again: one was $1000 and the other was $1200. Another thing was that after getting those emails "you havent played at our casino in a while & we have missed you and put X amount in your account" I recall winning just enough to make me spend again. But thats just out of memory. What really made me curious is that I recently told yall about my $8,000 cash out right? Well I went back to the casino and with spending about $2000 in one week, I could not win a single thing. It was not like I could win even a little at a time to keep playing for a while, it was almost rediculous strait losses with even few little wins. In the big picture I spent $2000 & in that $2000 I won ONE time just over a hundred dollars and that was after spending $300 in one game on $1.25 to even $9 spins. Its like after my big cashout that one day, I was cursed. I am so curious to do more research about this and if anyone else wants to help me maybe we can do a little survey of our own some how by posting your wins and when right here. This just seems way too coincedental to sit right with me. No one i know or nothing I have read explains how the system of payment works or where our money goes, I have no idea what really goes on, I just trust and hope. It really bugs me that they make Price Coopers appear as if they "monitor" the casinos to keep them legit, when in actuality each casino SENDS a report TO THEM and they dont even have to check it or verify it, so a casino can say anything, and Price just lists it on thier site as if Price did some monthly check up, if I understand this correctly. I spend WAY too much money to not be curious about this. Its OUR money so I feel like we should at least know where it is going. When I asked this question here, I dont think it made sense the first time so I am going to explain it in simpler terms and I am sure you all have wondered about this as well and then some of you may KNOW the answer. First, there is one thing that has stuck in my head ever since I read it and really bugs me, Bryan had written somewhere about a guy who basically told him something like, "I only care about the new people who come to my casino" Well WHY?? Why would that matter?? Why would you NOT want to keep your customers happy and spending??? I think Bryan said he almost got into a fist fight with that guy (if that makes it sound any more familiar). Anyway, Lets take microgaming for instance,
Lets pretend a new casino called "X casino" opens up today and many of us sign up and say one of us wins $150K at High Five slot machine, and another of us wins $150k at Cool buck the very day it opens AT that casino. Well that casino is brand new, and they only took in $50k themselves that day but that would not matter because a slot machine ONLY pays out what it has ALREADY made right? So my questions are: HOW in the world would this casino be able to report actual pay out percentages of thier games to Price????...& WHERE DOES OUR MONEY GO?? AND WHO IS HOLDING ALL OF THE MONEY? Doesnt it seem like there would HAVE to be ONE designated money holder that all the money goes to? And then when we win, the casino goes to that money holder and gets it to pay us with? This is so confusing, but I think we should know where our money is going. HOW does the casino make thier money, who pays them or do they only get to keep what they actually bring in? If they are only concerned about the new people winning, why is that? If the casinos are legit, why is thier no information on the web about how the whole internet gambling works like there is about Vegas slot machines & how they work?? And explain how one new casino can pay out $300K and report to Price that they pay out 98% in thier slots? The scary thing is that if they only care about NEW people than this money holder could easily PICK which casinos they are going to ALLOW the wins to go each day? Like the new ones perhaps? In Vegas, theres ONE actual slot machine so its easy to monitor if 20,000 people play and what the percentage of that ONE machine pays out. But we have NO idea if we are even winning 1% of what goes into one online game from all of the casinos. AND think about this: If there is ONE Cool Buck game that ALL of the casinos are connected to ALL of the casinos HAVE to make money from that ONE game, so how much are we really allowed to win, if some casinos didnt make much money that day, week or month? I just cant see how, with the hundreds of casinos with the same games supposedly being ALL connected, how can we go on such severe losing streaks when people all over the world are playing the SAME games. Its not the $2000 losing streak that I am even compairing but some months I have gone on $10K losing streak with NO cash outs...how is that possible? I mean it could just be me, just bad luck, and I am certainly not trying to bash the online casino industry, because I LOVE to gamble online, I just want to know because its really bugging me. So anyone who knows how it works, LET ME IN ON IT!! We spend about $5k per month on average gambling, thats just too much to have these questions in my head unanswered. Also you would think a casino would REALLY try to keep our business or tried to get our business back if we quit playing at thier casino but none have. Even after spending $20-$30K in ONE casino with no cash outs. They may send a "we miss you promo email" but that just doesnt seem like enough. UNLESS, it is true that somehow only the NEW people count. Another really strange thing is that we stopped getting any casino emails after we took two months off. NOW after the big cash out...we are being BOMBARDED with emails from casinos new and old, how did they get that info or know we were playing again? Thats another STRANGE coincedence. We at this board are doing the best we can, we do our research & share our information to try to keep from being taken. Maybe if we can really stick together and share more details in ONE specific place, maybe we wont make some mistakes that carelss people who do no research make. So if you are willing, please list anything that you can actually go back and look at, also future wins of when and where you won and how much you spent to get there. Lets just see if this is purely coincedental. What do yall think? I know theres a lot of questions in this one post, but I had to get it all out while it was fresh in my head.
Thanks!
Wanda
Lets pretend a new casino called "X casino" opens up today and many of us sign up and say one of us wins $150K at High Five slot machine, and another of us wins $150k at Cool buck the very day it opens AT that casino. Well that casino is brand new, and they only took in $50k themselves that day but that would not matter because a slot machine ONLY pays out what it has ALREADY made right? So my questions are: HOW in the world would this casino be able to report actual pay out percentages of thier games to Price????...& WHERE DOES OUR MONEY GO?? AND WHO IS HOLDING ALL OF THE MONEY? Doesnt it seem like there would HAVE to be ONE designated money holder that all the money goes to? And then when we win, the casino goes to that money holder and gets it to pay us with? This is so confusing, but I think we should know where our money is going. HOW does the casino make thier money, who pays them or do they only get to keep what they actually bring in? If they are only concerned about the new people winning, why is that? If the casinos are legit, why is thier no information on the web about how the whole internet gambling works like there is about Vegas slot machines & how they work?? And explain how one new casino can pay out $300K and report to Price that they pay out 98% in thier slots? The scary thing is that if they only care about NEW people than this money holder could easily PICK which casinos they are going to ALLOW the wins to go each day? Like the new ones perhaps? In Vegas, theres ONE actual slot machine so its easy to monitor if 20,000 people play and what the percentage of that ONE machine pays out. But we have NO idea if we are even winning 1% of what goes into one online game from all of the casinos. AND think about this: If there is ONE Cool Buck game that ALL of the casinos are connected to ALL of the casinos HAVE to make money from that ONE game, so how much are we really allowed to win, if some casinos didnt make much money that day, week or month? I just cant see how, with the hundreds of casinos with the same games supposedly being ALL connected, how can we go on such severe losing streaks when people all over the world are playing the SAME games. Its not the $2000 losing streak that I am even compairing but some months I have gone on $10K losing streak with NO cash outs...how is that possible? I mean it could just be me, just bad luck, and I am certainly not trying to bash the online casino industry, because I LOVE to gamble online, I just want to know because its really bugging me. So anyone who knows how it works, LET ME IN ON IT!! We spend about $5k per month on average gambling, thats just too much to have these questions in my head unanswered. Also you would think a casino would REALLY try to keep our business or tried to get our business back if we quit playing at thier casino but none have. Even after spending $20-$30K in ONE casino with no cash outs. They may send a "we miss you promo email" but that just doesnt seem like enough. UNLESS, it is true that somehow only the NEW people count. Another really strange thing is that we stopped getting any casino emails after we took two months off. NOW after the big cash out...we are being BOMBARDED with emails from casinos new and old, how did they get that info or know we were playing again? Thats another STRANGE coincedence. We at this board are doing the best we can, we do our research & share our information to try to keep from being taken. Maybe if we can really stick together and share more details in ONE specific place, maybe we wont make some mistakes that carelss people who do no research make. So if you are willing, please list anything that you can actually go back and look at, also future wins of when and where you won and how much you spent to get there. Lets just see if this is purely coincedental. What do yall think? I know theres a lot of questions in this one post, but I had to get it all out while it was fresh in my head.
Thanks!
Wanda
that makes sense...I dont like it but it makes sense. When they did the payout percentages, I thought they meant that each machine pays out a percentage of what each machine takes in. It seemed more fair that way. I kinda wish I never asked lol. BUT now I know that its true that it NEVER has to even pay you a dime no matter how much you give it. YUCK YUCK YUCK! So much for trying to mastermind a scheme with my girlies here to try to figure out which machine was about to spill over. :twisted: LOL See, I thought it was like a cup, once full it spills over in spurts big and small.
Kyle and I have always gotten along better since he started giving me an allowance, rather than him just watching me drain the bank accounts and credit cards wondering what I will spend and how much. I told him yesterday I needed a raise but when he asked why, I couldnt think of a good answer except, "Dont you love me?" But that didnt seem to work like it use to. :uhoh:
AND a few of you who giggled.
I have actually had to show that to a few friends and Kyle also got a good kick out of it too.
