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Smoking to be completely banned in AC

Discussion in 'North American Land Based Casinos' started by dendrite, Apr 9, 2008.

    Apr 9, 2008
  1. dendrite

    dendrite Senior Member webby

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    News just out on the philly.com website saying that later today the Atlantic City Council will be introducing a full smoking ban on the casino floors

    The proposal indicates that the only smoking allowed will now be special smoking lounges where there will be no games or machines


     
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  2. Apr 9, 2008
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    :lolup: :lolup: :lolup:

    Are they nuts? If they think business is dropping now, just wait and see what happens IF this bill passes. IMO it has a snowball's chance in hell.

    All I have to say is that I go to AC a few times a month and would rather stay at home and gamble online if they ban smoking in AC. ...and that's saying quite a bit. The main reason I go there in the first place is so I can get paid right away, NOT wait a month for a check.

    IF this bill ever passes, remove the decimal point from the above figure and it'll be correct for 2008 earnings.
     
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  4. Apr 9, 2008
  5. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

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    I was just there and that is the subject at hand! They are completely insane to think that people are going to drive 2 hours NOT to smoke when they can stay in PA, gamble and smoke

    Infact, The reason Rich and I get room service alot is because I want a cigarette after my meal and Rich eats slower than me. Ill guess what Ill do is take the free room for a change of pace, gamble and eat in my room and go downstairs when I wanna shop LMAO!!! Frikin Morons

    I need to say one thing though, seriously.

    It is part our (smokers) fault too. People are not folllowing the rules and lighting up whether its a smoking area or not. I really think if ppl stuck to the rule this wouldnt of happened. The casinos dont care. I was playing wheel of fortune last trip at 6am and it was dead at the time. I was on the top floor and smoking is bottom floor. I lit up anyway and a handful (atleast) of employees walked right passed me without saying a word

    I mean, clearly it was my fault because if I were a slot attendant and saw someone smoking that could be a potential winner and tip me, Hell, I wouldnt tell them to put it out either! We need to take some of the responsiblility here but it still sucks and they are going to lose even more ppl

    Try that in Vegas , HA ! never happening
     
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  6. Apr 9, 2008
  7. just play

    just play closed account

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    Wouldn't it make more sense to have the smoking section on the top floor since smoke rises?
     
  8. Apr 9, 2008
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    I don't have the direct link, but I was browsing dealer jobs at various casinos....in the job descriptions it clearly stated that you must work around cigarette smoke....so if you don't want the job, then tough cookies.


    The way I see it is this:

    If a dealer doesn't want to work around smokers, then the CASINO should be required to only place them in a non-smoking pit. Seeing as how this takes up 75% of the casino, it shouldn't be a problem. There's no reason at all to ban smoking altogether.
     
  10. Apr 9, 2008
  11. dendrite

    dendrite Senior Member webby

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    I think it is just a matter of time before Vegas introduces this type of law.

    Maybe it's five years away, but I think it will happen

    The fact is, even if they advertise jobs descriptions asking that applicants be comfortable with working in smoke, the lawyers can soon translate this into 'must be comfortable with getting throat cancer / lung cancer' etc, which is obviously unacceptable as a job description

    What interests me is how the casinos are going to react to these changes to keep players and to attract a new type of player to replace those they are going to lose.

    My guess is that we will see even more on the entertainment side of things, more games to attract the younger generation and more in the way of leisure activities, fine dining etc. Basically, I think they are going to be trying to attract a different type of crowd.

    I agree, this news is bad for casinos, but it does look to be the way things are heading all over the country. I just hope we see casinos progress and attract people in different ways, rather than close down.


     
  12. Apr 9, 2008
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    In Vegas' case, the almighty dollar will prevail once again. Vegas would stand to lose millions in tax dollars if this was the case. Stopping people from smoking in casinos would be the beginning of the end of Vegas.
     
  14. Apr 10, 2008
  15. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

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    Well, Louisiana got their cake and ate it too. Can't smoke in any eating establishment unless they are basically a bar serving food. Can't smoke in any public place, malls etc. Can't smoke anywhere in a casino except IN THE CASINO. Tell me they didn't think this one out. That way they appeased all.

    Now on the other hand, smokers could be a little more polite. I am a reformed smoker (would smoke one a mile long if I could though) and it would be nice is when I sit down by someone that is smoking or vice versa, the smoker wouldn't blow smoke in my face. When I used to smoke, I would ask someone when I sat down if they minded or if someone sat down by me I would try to keep the smoke from going right up their nose. Just a little common courtesy. I have noticed though in most of the casinos in Shreveport that the ventilation systems is much better so it's not as smokey as they once were.
     
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  16. Apr 10, 2008
  17. dendrite

    dendrite Senior Member webby

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    You are right, the mighty dollar will prevail. But will it prevail in favor of smoking or in favor of non-smoking?

    On the one hand, we have lost revenue due to players not liking bans put in place, but on the other hand we have the lawsuits that could explode as workers begin to realize that ill health has been caused by the smoke.

    It seems that the much publicized lawsuit by the dealer, Kam Wong in A.C. had a real say in the A.C ruling to introduce a ban.


     
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  18. Apr 10, 2008
  19. winbig

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    I couldn't agree more.

    If Casinos wanted to ban anything, it should be putting a ban on CIGARS at all table games. On a trip recently I was at the Taj and sat down at a BJ table next to a guy that was smoking a nasty ass smelling cigar. It smelled so bad I couldn't even stand to be near the table, as it was making me nauseous; which says a lot, seeing as how I'm a smoker. Needless to say I left rather quickly. Don't get me wrong, there's some cigars that don't reek, but most do.
     
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  21. pokeraddict

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    Here in South Dakota they have been trying to pass a smoking ban. We don't even really have one, you can still smoke anywhere that has alcohol. The first attempt at a ban was going to ban in everywhere and Deadwood threw a fit and it died. Then they tried to make it so if you had gambling then you would be exempt. It still couldn't pass and we have legalized video poker everywhere you look. They don't even let counties or cities make their own local laws.

    It is annoying to go out to eat with the kids and the restaurant is smoky but if places are adult only then let them make their own choices. If you don't want to go somewhere because it is smoky that is your right. If there really was a market for non smoking casinos they would exist. The two casinos I've been to with non smoking areas (Cherokee NC and Mystic Lake MN) didn't look like they got much action. At Cherokee the non smoking table games had half the min bet the smoking ones did and they still couldn't get any action.
     
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  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Maybe they'll realize they'll lose more money by driving the smokers away instead of driving non-smokers away?
     
  24. Apr 10, 2008
  25. pokeraddict

    pokeraddict Webmaster

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    SD has a different issue then NJ does too. If SD banned smoking in the endless video poker halls all over the state and the casinos in Deadwood the reservations would have a huge advantage. The difference is the state gets 8% of the take in Deadwood + $2000 a year per machine and table. They also get half of the net win off all of the video poker machines that are in the hundreds of video poker halls (they call them casinos but they're really just depressing dives with 90% payback garbage machines) all over the state. They get none of the reservation's net win.
     
  26. Apr 10, 2008
  27. swampwitch

    swampwitch ProfessionalUnderachiever CAG MM webmeister

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    Good old Iowa just passed a smoking ban...public places, restaurants, and bars.
    In the rinky dink little town I live in, we have two bars. In a few months, there will be no bars.
    Here are the exceptions....

    Casinos gambling area
    Veterans Home, Marshalltown
    Private residences
    Hotels, motels 20 percent of rooms
    Tobacco stores
    Long-term care facilities
    Outdoor work areas
    Limousines
    Farm tractors, trucks

    Nice of them to allow smoking in tractors and trucks. No word on cars and golf carts.:rolleyes:

    Luckily for us, we have a VFW that's open to the public...technically, it's not a bar. But...it's a bar. The manager made some calls today. As long as there's a VFW member in the place at any given time, whoever's in the bar can smoke. She's practically giddy with the thought of all the business the VFW will get. She's already ordered a new pool table and dart board.;)

    Pretty soon this town won't just be known for The World's Largest Popcorn Ball...it will also be known for the newly shuttered business that WalMart (25 minutes away) hadn't already ruined.
     

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