Slots explained and why they are for losers

NewOrleans

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Seeing all the hype about suspected rigged slots I had to post this...Since you are all wrong there is no need to rig slots further lol

This information goes to all the slots,the RNG(random number generator) is in place yes. The only thing the casino can do is lower payout rates which simply means the slots are going to pocket more cash,all the slots nowadays have the RNG but also pocket a certain ammount of money before paying out which insures the casino they will not lose money.Other than the fact the slots are pocketing part of your winnings and/or bets the slots also hold a house edge meaning over time you will win less than you bet.

This means there is absolutely no reason for a casino to rig a slot more than it is already rigged,yes all slots are rigged you didn't know that already ?
While it is true if you go on a slot where someone wagered 1000 dollars and loss every single bet,this slot would be favorable but what if a player just reaped 1000$ that means you are doomed.While this is true in land casinos,what if online casinos make slots independant of other people's wagers and made sure any player bets more than they win?Do you really want to risk it.
 

RobWin

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Seeing all the hype about suspected rigged slots I had to post this...Since you are all wrong there is no need to rig slots further lol

This information goes to all the slots,the RNG(random number generator) is in place yes. The only thing the casino can do is lower payout rates which simply means the slots are going to pocket more cash,all the slots nowadays have the RNG but also pocket a certain ammount of money before paying out which insures the casino they will not lose money.Other than the fact the slots are pocketing part of your winnings and/or bets the slots also hold a house edge meaning over time you will win less than you bet.

This means there is absolutely no reason for a casino to rig a slot more than it is already rigged,yes all slots are rigged you didn't know that already ?
While it is true if you go on a slot where someone wagered 1000 dollars and loss every single bet,this slot would be favorable but what if a player just reaped 1000$ that means you are doomed.While this is true in land casinos,what if online casinos make slots independant of other people's wagers and made sure any player bets more than they win?Do you really want to risk it.
Slots explained and why they are for losers

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What other revelations can you share with us New Orleans ?? :D

The one about the land based casinos absolutely just blew me away !! :eek2:
 

NewOrleans

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thanks :)

I like to be real with you people,I understand the house edge on every single game if you want true info check
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this has given me insight and understanding in every single game available by casinos,this site should also be affiliated with casinomeister,I was surprised that jacks or better video poker with a certain pay table offers a house edge lower than any other game,second is craps for the odds bet then there is baccarat assuming the commission is not over 5%,blackjack and single zero roulette are about the same and finally sic bo and pai gow poker check the site for yourselves the last thing I would play is slots... If you look at casino offers they offer 100% wagering reqs for slots and none or a slim % for video poker,blackjack,craps etc there is a reason :) And beware of hidden blackjack rules as every single rule raises or lowers the house edge and you will need to calculate with the rules what the house edge is,more decks mean lower payouts,hole cards mean higher house edges too not being able to split on aces is also a house edge raiser,only being able to double on 11 and not 10,9 is also a bad thing...Calculate house edges and pick your game :)

Anyways thats the tip of the iceberg on what the wizardofodds.com teached me :)
 

RobWin

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I like to be real with you people,I understand the house edge on every single game if you want true info check
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
this has given me insight and understanding in every single game available by casinos,this site should also be affiliated with casinomeister,I was surprised that jacks or better video poker with a certain pay table offers a house edge lower than any other game,second is craps for the odds bet then there is baccarat assuming the commission is not over 5%,blackjack and single zero roulette are about the same and finally sic bo and pai gow poker check the site for yourselves the last thing I would play is slots... If you look at casino offers they offer 100% wagering reqs for slots and none or a slim % for video poker,blackjack,craps etc there is a reason :) And beware of hidden blackjack rules as every single rule raises or lowers the house edge and you will need to calculate with the rules what the house edge is,more decks mean lower payouts,hole cards mean higher house edges too not being able to split on aces is also a house edge raiser,only being able to double on 11 and not 10,9 is also a bad thing.

Anyways thats the tip of the iceberg on what the wizardofodds.com teached me :)

Wizard of Odds huh...are you sure that guy knows what he is talking about or is he a newbie to this online gaming market...I don't want to just trust anyone's advice you know and it all sounds so complicated too the way you explained it...:confused:
 

GGW Laurie

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Seeing all the hype about suspected rigged slots I had to post this...Since you are all wrong there is no need to rig slots further lol

This information goes to all the slots,the RNG(random number generator) is in place yes. The only thing the casino can do is lower payout rates which simply means the slots are going to pocket more cash,all the slots nowadays have the RNG but also pocket a certain ammount of money before paying out which insures the casino they will not lose money.Other than the fact the slots are pocketing part of your winnings and/or bets the slots also hold a house edge meaning over time you will win less than you bet.

This means there is absolutely no reason for a casino to rig a slot more than it is already rigged,yes all slots are rigged you didn't know that already ?While it is true if you go on a slot where someone wagered 1000 dollars and loss every single bet,this slot would be favorable but what if a player just reaped 1000$ that means you are doomed.While this is true in land casinos,what if online casinos make slots independant of other people's wagers and made sure any player bets more than they win?Do you really want to risk it.
........well hells bells, wish i would have known all this sooner;) too too late!!!!!! im doomed:D.............laurie
 

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gaming %'s are based on games in the real world. when you get into cyberspace you can throw those numbers in the trash. 9/6 jacks or better is a great game to play if making money is your goal but keep in mind the payback % is based on perfect play. slot %'s are based on the lifetime of a machine. we are still waitng for that definition. the period of time you spend in a casino is so small that the payback %'s do not affect you. you will have no practical knowledge of a slot paying you 78% back or 92%. the period of time and the number of spins is too small. when you play online obviously your number of hands and spins increase but then again, you are playing online. until a gaming commision controls online gaming there is no way to know if you are getting a fair game. period. if you are doing this much research, with making money in mind, please find something else to do. there is a minute % of the population that makes money gambling i am not being a prick when i say it is not going to be you. we do have someone on this forum who makes a profit month in and month out. i dont know if it is enough to live on but it is what it is. i'm sure he will tell you the same thing. have fun, dont over think. dont over spend.:)
 

BingoT

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It looks like I'm going to have to talk with all my Indian friends at Foxwoods & The Mohegan Sun about this.
For the past 20 years they been scalping me & my customers.
I need a raise for bringing people down to them.
 

mysticjoz

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It looks like I'm going to have to talk with all my Indian friends at Foxwoods & The Mohegan Sun about this.
For the past 20 years they been scalping me & my customers.
I need a raise for bringing people down to them.

:lolup::lolup:LOL!! Its been at least three years since I was at Foxwoods.. but the last time I walked out the door there after a nice long 8 hour session... I was the one who scalped them!!:smilewink: (by $3600 total! $1600 let it ride.. first 5 minutes after sitting down..and the same $1 slot two times in a row for another total of $2k!) :D ahhh those were the good ol' days:nod:) Definately not your normal visit to Foxwoods.. maybe because it was a nice profitable one!;)
 

tim5ny

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I'm glad this guy came here and explained how slots work!:thumbsup: I've been duped all these years into thinking that I was on a level playing field with the casinos, and that they were only in business because they were having as much fun as I was. :p
 

mysticjoz

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I'm glad this guy came here and explained how slots work!:thumbsup: I've been duped all these years into thinking that I was on a level playing field with the casinos, and that they were only in business because they were having as much fun as I was. :p

Then you should be really enlightened by the post regarding taxes on winnings :D
 

Pinababy69

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So THAT'S what House Edge means...duh. I feel so blonde!! And this Wizard dude, you sure he's on the up and up? Never heard of him....but maybe I'll take a look at his site and see what he has to say about all of this slots stuff. Hey....wait a minute. Aren't you the same guy who said that Coolcat was a reputable operation? You're having us on aren't you? :laugh: :laugh:
 

steinhaug

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While it is true if you go on a slot where someone wagered 1000 dollars and loss every single bet,this slot would be favorable but what if a player just reaped 1000$ that means you are doomed.While this is true in land casinos,what if online casinos make slots independant of other people's wagers and made sure any player bets more than they win?Do you really want to risk it.

My point, and observations excactly!
 

tim5ny

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While it is true if you go on a slot where someone wagered 1000 dollars and loss every single bet,this slot would be favorable but what if a player just reaped 1000$ that means you are doomed.


I'm of the belief that things don't work that way anymore in land-based casinos as well as online. I tend to think that a series of machines are tied together and the rtp is delivered as a whole amongst the whole lot. One machine may contribute far more into meeting the rtp than all the others, but the final result is that the casino has met the rtp and has reaped their profits. And I also don't believe that machines these days are set individually to keep a constant payout percentage over long periods of time. One week a slot may payout 110% while dipping down to say 80% the following week. Everything is computerized these days. Those days of each slot meeting its rtp all by itself are over I think.

Just my theory. I'm not a smart guy though!
 

KasinoKing

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This means there is absolutely no reason for a casino to rig a slot more than it is already rigged,yes all slots are rigged you didn't know that already ?
While it is true if you go on a slot where someone wagered 1000 dollars and loss every single bet,this slot would be favorable but what if a player just reaped 1000$ that means you are doomed. While this is true in land casinos, what if online casinos make slots independant of other people's wagers and made sure any player bets more than they win? Do you really want to risk it.
Yes I do want to risk it. :thumbsup:
(I've been risking it for years & I'm doing OK, thanks!)

Land-based slots may or may not be rigged - I don't know, but I would suspect they are.
Online slots may or may not be rigged - I don't know, but I would suspect they are not.

KK
 

RobWin

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Yes I do want to risk it. :thumbsup:
(I've been risking it for years & I'm doing OK, thanks!)

Land-based slots may or may not be rigged - I don't know, but I would suspect they are.
Online slots may or may not be rigged - I don't know, but I would suspect they are not.

KK

KK, how in the world can you say that you suspect that Land Based Slots are rigged ?? What type of proof do you have of this ?? Are you basing this statement on your extensive play at one of the major Land Based Casino Groups like Harrah's Entertainment Company or something along those lines ??

But yet you believe that online slots are not rigged ?? and again what proof do you have of that statement ??

I'm really curious what your thoughts are regarding those two statements you made there...
 

KasinoKing

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KK, how in the world can you say that you suspect that Land Based Slots are rigged ?? What type of proof do you have of this ?? Are you basing this statement on your extensive play at one of the major Land Based Casino Groups like Harrah's Entertainment Company or something along those lines ??

But yet you believe that online slots are not rigged ?? and again what proof do you have of that statement ??

I'm really curious what your thoughts are regarding those two statements you made there...
That is why I deliberately used the word 'suspect'
I am not stating categorically that I think that either type of slot is rigged or not - how should I know?
Just expressing my personal opinion, that's all.
;)


It is all very well taking the mick but the OP does have a good point.

Welcome OP for speaking the truth :thumbsup:.
Yes, I too thank the OP for expressing his personal opinion.

:thumbsup:
 
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