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Should I ditch the RTG for good?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by plasticnote, Jul 30, 2011.

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Should I ditch RTGs for good?

Poll closed Aug 6, 2011.
  1. Yes

    24 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. No

    24 vote(s)
    50.0%
    Jul 30, 2011
  1. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    Australia
    I have been RTG lover for many years and I really enjoyed their Aussie Style slots. I have been lucky to win about 10 RJs. I spent about total more than 100K to achieve this. However, recently, I have experienced 3 months no withdrawal. Cost 10K plus. Under current eco environment should I ditch all RTGs I am playing at or I should hang on for a day I could win? I would like the forum member to give me an advice. I do not have bias towards RTGs. However the cost to pay ratio... I virtually feed my MG wins to RTGs, I think it is unfair.

    best regard;

    A lonely slots player
     
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  2. Jul 30, 2011
  3. LOOKAWAY

    LOOKAWAY Senior Wember PABnonaccred

    Location:
    England
    I voted yes.

    Been playing RTG recently, but on 100% match bonuses. I would never play there for cash, just hard to find 100% bonuses these days as I kicked Rival out this year.

    Maybe try a different software, I wouldn't vote RTG second to Micro Gaming.
     
  4. Jul 30, 2011
  5. daveboz

    daveboz Banned User

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Seattle
    "I have been lucky to win about 10 RJs."

    Holy sheet LOL. Only ten huh?
     
  6. Jul 30, 2011
  7. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    Australia
    Yes may be more than 10 but as I can recall that is 10.
    3 inetbet, 2 CWC, 3 JPC and 2 at others can not remember name. the number also not exact as quite alot. give each count 1 or 2 +.

    I used to do 10 to 20 a spin till 2010 later, I admire metaxa, an old member here do 100 a spin but I do not have the guts.
     
  8. Jul 30, 2011
  9. ksech

    ksech Dormant account

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Here
    Sometimes a switch to a different platform or simply a break away from playing can be like a breath of fresh air. It depends on what you are looking for. If you are chasing down more RJs, then my opinion would be to thank your lucky stars and walk away while you are ahead(?). Take your winnings and invest in something you can enjoy for a long time.

    And congratulations on all of your RJ wins! :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Jul 30, 2011
  11. kidice

    kidice Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    general contractor
    Location:
    Carmichael, CA
    Statistically, you could go much longer without a payout- much, much longer. Remember, they ARE slots and they are not mathmatically "beatable". That being said, I too am a big fan of RTG software- it just has that certain something that keeps me comin back for more abuse. What i DON'T like about RTG is their continued blind eye towards rogue operators, that is something that draws me towards never playing them again.

    Lately it seems to be tougher, but I've gone through this before- it'll turn around, hang in there! When I'm suffering through lows such as now, I reduce my bets substancially and wait for steadier play. (there is absolutely no mathematical basis for this strategy, but it has served me reasonably well.) Experience and probability does provide for highs and lows being regular occurances in the short term sampling. For most of us, our lifetimes would be considered short term here.

    If you're still having fun at RTG, keep playin there- just drop down until you get through it. When is a bad run over? trust yourself on that one, remembering 1 big win does not an upcycle make. And always bear in mind- YOU CANNOT BEAT SLOTS! you can only hope to get the best value for your entertainment dollar. Good luck, and let me know how it goes- always interested in adding to my education with others' experiences.

    (..........now is when everyone tells me how full of chit I am. LOL go ahead, I can take it!)
     
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  12. Jul 30, 2011
  13. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    if it no longer becomes fun ditch them , go play elsewhere , its there loss not yours )
     
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  14. Jul 30, 2011
  15. 4 of a kind

    4 of a kind Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll

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    Not sure if he could be considered a winner unless all RJ's hit were over 10k.

    Plasticnote,

    Since it appears you're a high volume player, are you saying based on your personal play that you suspect the RTP's might have been lowered recently?

    It also appears you're a slot player. Since slots are 100% random I'm not sure how anyone could answer such a question, unless you want to know if any others have experienced the same recent changes your experiencing. Are your playing style and deposits any different these last three months as they were for the past few years?

    What is the big change that took place that only after three months of bad runs are making you think anything is different? Certainly three months of shitty luck is nothing to panic about.
     
  16. Jul 30, 2011
  17. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    Australia
    Thank you for your inputs. I do not know if I am a high volume player or not comparing with some other famous players here:D. I have not changed my play style much. Each year, 45K strict bankroll, I had 2 moneybookers accounts and half half for MG and RTG. In the past 6 years, it never happened to me, I use my MG bankroll to feed RTG. Consider now my RTG bankroll is empty and I am 12K ahead on MG.

    As I said I have no bias on RTG and I would like the vote count to decide should I keep going with them. Many long time members have much more experiences.

    I am not a winner on RTG, consider I pay RTG to make me happy sometimes. Now if RTG want to raise the price for fun making, should I pay the higher price or should I get another vender? :)-)

    By the way, has anyone had longer than 3 months losing on slots? Please do let me know, thank you for sharing the experience.
     
  18. Jul 30, 2011
  19. 4 of a kind

    4 of a kind Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    45K a year is nothing to sneeze at.

    MG- $22,500.00 starting bankroll. Presently $34,500.00 Balance.
    RTG $22.500.00 starting bankroll. Presently $00,000.00 Balance.

    So what's the question again?
     
  20. Jul 30, 2011
  21. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    Australia
    Should I continue playing RTGs or ditch them? thank you for the vote, I will make the decision 100% based on the vote count.
    by the way, the 45K is just the limit, I have not run out bankroll entirely for many years, I was caught by suprise this year, now only the end of july. CPI is too high :what:
     
  22. Jul 30, 2011
  23. Cleveland

    Cleveland Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Professional problem solver
    Location:
    Texas
    [​IMG]

    edit: I needed a vote for play whatever casinos you like. But I voted no (assuming you must enjoy playing there to drop that kind of money).
     
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  24. Jul 30, 2011
  25. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    I nearly voted Yes, but then switched to No at the last minute...
    That's because you said "Ditch them for good" which I take to mean "forever" (which is a pretty long time!)
    If you had a vote option of "Give them a rest for 6-months & try something else", I would have voted for that!

    You haven't said in any of your above posts whether you have ever tried any other softwares, but if not, I think you should - variety is the spice of life! ;)
    There are loads to chose from (though not all accept Australian players :(), and so I would suggest you give the likes of Grand Virtual & Net Entertainment a bash... a change is as good as a rest! :thumbsup:

    KK
     
  26. Jul 30, 2011
  27. Temperance Fox

    Temperance Fox Experienced Member PABnononaccred

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    I didn't vote, cause the question sounds quite strange, sorry.
    If in the last months you didn't cash, look around and see....are other players winning there with a good frequency?

    1) yes, there are many winnings there: well, it may be your unlucky trend there,so, as already said, change platform.See what happens.

    2) no, there are many people not satisfied in this period so, the right question, imo, is "shoukd we ditch the RTG ?"

    3) as I always say we all have up and downs, if you won quite good in the past, this is not an insurance for the future.But we are conditioned by those winnings and we tend to return in those places where we were "happy and satisfied"

    Hope you understood what I mean, in my poor english
     
  28. Jul 30, 2011
  29. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

    Occupation:
    trader
    Location:
    Australia
    thank you for the input KK. I have played at GV casinos, not click with their slots.
    NetENT has been good to me, won a lot last year at nordicbet casino. I have noticed that you rarely play at any RTGs.
    Advice is taken and much appreciated.
     
  30. Jul 31, 2011
  31. ericlee

    ericlee Banned User - abused iNetBet support staff

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    45k,? holy bankroll batman! you must make alot of money doing whatever profession it is that you do but to most people 45k is their yearly income lol.

    im a low-medium limit 1 to 3 dollar per spin guy but i feel that rtgs have also some how gotten tighter, less bonus rounds less payout per 100 spins, but as im in the usa my only other option is rival, which i do play sometimes but like you i really enjoy rtg but something in my gut tells me everything is not on the up and up.

    goodluck as always
     
  32. Jul 31, 2011
  33. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    Ontario
    Reluctantly, I picked no. Three months is not that long without a cashout, but 10K is quite a bit of dosh.

    Do you usually take a bonus? I find the bonuses hard to beat more so at RTG than MG.

    I think I'd probably play, but maybe at a lower level of bet, or less frequent deposits. Give your favourite casinos a rest entirely for a few weeks, you will probably be offered some "we miss you" offers to tempt you back, maybe give you a bit of chance to claw some back without dipping further into the year's funds.

    Like James Bond, never say never.

    Intercasino has quite a selection of games, maybe give them a shot? I assume you've played Playtech as well and have your own reasons for not mentioning them.
     
  34. Jul 31, 2011
  35. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    I've been led to believe that it may be possible that RTG operators can set RTP on a per coupon basis.

    It might explain why bonuses there are hard to beat.
     
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  36. Jul 31, 2011
  37. LaHutti

    LaHutti Sr. ÜberUnter Ass. Man. webby PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    Voted no, because my guess, after this, youll hit a RJ pretty soon. :cool:
     
  38. Jul 31, 2011
  39. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Mathematically, as long as the average RJ hit was above 10k he should be a winner.

    I am also suspicious of a lowering of the rtp at rtg but it's unlikely to have much to do with the features as it would be too noticeable. This is a commercial world and I bet all licensees, other than using some methods of their own to preserve their profits, would also pressurise the software operator to do something such as loering the rtp unnoticeably. If they cant do away with the rng they can add a couple of lower paying symbols to the reels to lessen the effects of scatters paying out. It will not be easy to detect this and it would vary among the different slots. Just my 2c.

    I also voted no because as long as you dont give up playing online it's better to alternate between RTG and MG both to give you more variety and somewhere else to turn to if your luck runs out in one platform.
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2011

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