Scam Casino Should I chargeback at Red Lion Casino?

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Surfer

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Hi Guys, I am new here and have been rather a silly boy and opened an account with what I believe to be a scam casino called 'the red lion casino' which claim to be licenced in Curacao but when I email the e-gambing commision in Curacao they have never heard of this casino. They seem to offer all the games and services (netbet) that are not to be offered in the UK. they dont seem to show their licence number presumably because they don't have one.

I opened it because I am on gamblock and I am self excluded myself from UK bookmakers as I am a problem gambler but that is a different story. I deposited many times to the tune of 2000 over 2 credit cards and they show as a dodgy transaction company in Moscow on my statement. I played and won some money which I wanted to withdraw (1500) and I went to make a withdrawal and I was told by their customer services £500 was the maximum and only withdrawal at a time dispite their own 'terms and conditions' saying that 10k was the maximum monthly withdawal limit. they just see to make up the rules to suit them. this took days and days of emailing them to withdraw it so I could get my money back and I kept getting told it will be done ASAP. and being the problem gambler I am kept playing heavily and lost it all. One of the deposits I made was for £300 and I when I logged onto my online banking they took another £300 without adding it to the bettings account, I asked them to cancel it and put it back into my credit card account they said they couldnt and that they have credited my bettings account and I have to wager it atleast once to then withdraw it and of course I lost that too.

I am fully aware how stupid this all is but having read some things on here I may be eligle to chargeback those transactions on the grounds that they don't have a uk licence and they offer all the rigged netbet games they shouldn't in the UK.

I have raised a chargeback on all these transactions and received them back into my 2 credit card accounts and raised the dispute with all the information and emails from the curacao commission etc, my question is what are the chances of a successful chargeback on these grounds? they have reversed the transactions but what are the chances of them just readding them once theyve spoken to the merchant and they say i'm bang to rights. Like I say I am very aware I have been stupid and I should write the money off to experience but if I can get the money back and the games I was playing were rigged then it is unfair.

Please be kind :)
 
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Easiest way to dispute the transactions if Credit Card company gets funny is to point out we are not allowed to use Credit Cards for gambling in UK so transactions should not be allowed.

Anyway since noone else has mentioned it do you really think it is a good idea to have Credit Cards with that sort of limit if you cannot control your spending. You did the correct thing by registering for Gamblock. But then went looking for dodgy casinos to play at using your Credit cards.

So what would you have done if the Casino had paid the winnings no Problem. Kept going back till you had maxed out all Credit Cards got yourself deeper in debt and then tried to charge back anyway.

Think now you have managed the Chargeback you should be thinking...
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pinnit2014

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Possibly pay up to a certain amount, X number of times etc: why refuse a 200 quid w/d when you know you might have 2000 quid coming your way from the punters and then, should the person win a lot, they can simply shrug their shoulders and refuse it. You might get lucky so to speak with smaller amounts but then again, maybe not. Not worth the stress worrying: your first thought if you win big playing should be 'whoopeee', not 'shit, i'm screwed now'

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wasb

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Possibly pay up to a certain amount, X number of times etc: why refuse a 200 quid w/d when you know you might have 2000 quid coming your way from the punters and then, should the person win a lot, they can simply shrug their shoulders and refuse it. You might get lucky so to speak with smaller amounts but then again, maybe not. Not worth the stress worrying: your first thought if you win big playing should be 'whoopeee', not 'shit, i'm screwed now'

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that is true, to be honest, now ive finally got this 100 pound back,. im never going to take the risk and gamble with this company again, its not worth the stress, probably best just staying away from all casinos that are not regulated/not on gamstop right? i assume they are all risky
 

Casinomeister

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I just feel for the folks who have sent in their ID docs, bank statements, utility bills, etc. Where do you think copies of these documents are being sold off to?

I really don't understand why folks are so careless - especially during these times of ID theft. They just might hack your Ancestory.com account and snatch your DNA.

And Bob's yer uncle.:axeman2:
 
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