Should CAP be rogued?

[RobWin]

Several "Affiliate Sites" have already started the Roguing process and a lot more are soon to follow...per the word on the street...

 

[Casinomeister]

Several "Affiliate Sites" have already started the Roguing process and a lot more are soon to follow...per the word on the street...

oh...bummer for CAP.

 

[Casinomeister]

Here's the first one:

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And another:
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[rowmare]

A couple more:

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[jas2587]

I am not a Affiliate I am a player an after reading Lou's retirement post
then the London Fiasco then his unretirement post
oh wait he didnt post about London now did he he complelty omitted that like it didn't even happen
Then Dom is supposedly posting that she is gonna clean up the forum get people unbanned etc etc

Lou says I was not consulted on this on Dom fixing things Oh Please do you really think people are that stupid you know very well that she was asked to help fix something that IMO is unfixable

now Lou is posting like he doesnt have a care in the world what happened to his Health issues his mother having cancer (((His words))))

I wanna see his doctor
to me IMO he thinks he is untouchable that no 1 will leave his site
well Nixon thought he was unpeachable tooo

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Cindy

 

[Webzcas]

I am not a Affiliate I am a player an after reading Lou's retirement post
then the London Fiasco then his unretirement post
oh wait he didnt post about London now did he he complelty omitted that like it didn't even happen
Then Dom is supposedly posting that she is gonna clean up the forum get people unbanned etc etc

Lou says I was not consulted on this on Dom fixing things Oh Please do you really think people are that stupid you know very well that she was asked to help fix something that IMO is unfixable

now Lou is posting like he doesnt have a care in the world what happened to his Health issues his mother having cancer (((His words))))

I wanna see his doctor
to me IMO he thinks he is untouchable that no 1 will leave his site
well Nixon thought he was unpeachable tooo

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Cindy

The issue here for me is one of trust and transparency. Of which neither of these attributes have the management of CAP been displaying of late. Why am I personally taking an interest in this? Because it affects me as an affiliate and also a player. This industry has had enough crap to deal with thanks to the over zealous politicians in the US during the past couple of years, we don't need those supposedly on our side also making things worse for us as well.

 

[rowmare]

Something that's apparent is that neither Lou nor Warren have admitted to any wrongdoing, nor have they appologized or acted the least bit sheepish.
Lou, at least, sounds very confident that all this annoying stuff will blow over, and it's business as usual for him.
You've seen this before. It's a 'sticky' on the forums at CAP.

 

[mojo]

Here's the first one:

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And another:
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Well I am responsable for this one,

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If anyone would like to exchange links with like pages please pm. I hope that is ok to say.

As Webzcas said, this is an issue of trust and transparency. Also one of simple honesty that is crucial for online gambling, player or affliate. If you notice in the last statement of my article titled 'Can this forum be Saved?' I say 'I hope so'. I don't want to hurt anyone. Jeez. No one wants to. It's been over months now though and we are still playing the 'not me!' game. We have given plenty of time, more than most would recieve to rectify this. Add: There are still affiliates that havn't been paid! We are being tortured here with all of these threads and infighting. I've had enough. I would be happy to change my page if CAP would just friggin be honest.

Thank you for listening.

 

[LaurieJim]

After doing alot more reading on this in the different threads and new issues arising, can i change my vote to yes?. I still think Dom is a good person who seems to care alot about whats going on but this whole thing is like a sinking ship and you need to swim away from there Dom and save yourself.......laurie

 

[mojo]

After doing alot more reading on this in the different threads and new issues arising, can i change my vote to yes?. I still think Dom is a good person who seems to care alot about whats going on but this whole thing is like a sinking ship and you need to swim away from there Dom and save yourself.......laurie

For the record, I think Dom (and bonustreak) tried very hard. It is simply out of their hands. At the end of the day we are all just trying to do the right thing and I hope can come through this together.

 

[jetset]

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[lots0]

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Sorry haven't had time to update the page in months, so there is no information on the current CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com scandal.

But we will be updating it soon with all the dirt.

 

[RobWin]

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Sorry haven't had time to update the page in months, so the is no information on the current CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com scandal.

But we will be updating it soon with all the dirt.

That's a hell of a lot of good and interesting info you have listed there regarding "CAP" lots0

 

[rowmare]

Damn, we need more webmasters like you, lots0

Doing the right thing isn't always easy, but it's always right.

If you want to filter out 'bad' casinos, might want to start from the source, where players find the casinos in the first place - affiliates themselves. How can we not rogue CAP/PAP when CAP/PAP sets an example for new affiliates who are finding them via google, etal?

If they aren't forced to maintain a standard of conduct themselves, how can we expect anyone else to. And that covers everybody involved in this industry all the way down the line, from affiliate programs to casinos to affiliates and even players? Let's be consistent here and insist on ethical behaviour across the board.

 

[RobWin]

Any of you guys watched this interview with Lou yet ??



Just thought it might be relevant to this thread here...

 

[RobWin]

And another walk down memory lane....full article here

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[pokeraddict]

Don't forget this gem:

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[Casinomeister]

Any of you guys watched this interview with Lou yet ??



Just thought it might be relevant to this thread here...

From the video - Lou mentions that Absolute slots owners are in Hungary - former RTG owners...well the only ex-RTG guys that come to mind who were in Hungary were the Windows Casino guys. Well, that's a red flag.

I could be wrong though...

Another comment: "GPWA they own casino city - they are a very large operator of a casino - they are directly competing against affiliates who are supposedly represented by the GPWA."

I wouldn't think that Casino City was a casino - it's actually a directory, and a very passive one at that. Sure they usually have a booth at most conferences, but that's about it.

I think what CAP just doesn't get yet is that there is competition, but it should be friendly competition - not cut-throat tactics.

I commend my webmaster buddies for developing webmaster tools and sharing them amongst ourselves. Imagine what would happen if I were to mimic Simmo's! Affcaff system for myself, and then boot him out of the forum. There would be pitchforks and torches pointed my way.

Lou said what the buzz was in London - it was about Obama and the change of administration. Sorry Lou, everyone was talking about Cardspike and what the hell was CAP thinking to get itself involved with that? And the buzz going around the affiliate managers was why were they paying an exuberant fee to be listed at CAP, when CAP in fact is competing directly against them. That was the buzz.

But then I wasn't at CAP (except for the first two hours to meet my friends); I was at the ICE.

And another walk down memory lane....full article here

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Now that's some bad shit. I remember that - barely. Some members had reminded me of this a few weeks ago. That was a real stupid and roguish move on Lou's part.

 

[Webzcas]

Ah the database sale. That wasn't Lou. He said at the time that someone hacked his account at CAP and made that post as him.

Was it the same person that tried to hack Jeremy Enke's account at Poker Affiliate Listings per chance?



As for this:

GPWA they own casino city - they are a very large operator of a casino

Please don't tell me we have a numpty leading the largest affiliate forum. Since when were Casino City an online casino? HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Casinomeister]

Don't forget this gem:

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Just an admin note that IP 64.58.138.146 matches all of the CAP forum accounts here at Casinomeister.

 

[Webzcas]

Just an admin note that IP 64.58.138.146 matches all of the CAP forum accounts here at Casinomeister.

Haven't they heard of a proxy server.

 

[RobWin]

Damn Webzcas, don't give that bunch any ideas man..

 

[pokeraddict]

Of course we have never heard a peep out of them about the hacking attempt. I guess they figured there isn't any way to get out of that one. That in itself is criminal and should be considered when deciding CAP's fate.

 

[RobWin]

From the video -

Lou mentions that Absolute slots owners are in Hungary - former RTG owners...well the only ex-RTG guys that come to mind who were in Hungary were the Windows Casino guys. Well, that's a red flag.

Yes, that's the only one's I could think of also but like you say we may be wrong in that thought...

I think what CAP just doesn't get yet is that there is competition, but it should be friendly competition - not cut-throat tactics.

Yes, I totally agree with you on that one...

Imagine what would happen if I were to mimic Simmo's! Affcaff system for myself, and then boot him out of the forum. There would be pitchforks and torches pointed my way.

LOL, a witch hunt of massive proportion!

Lou said what the buzz was in London - it was about Obama and the change of administration. Sorry Lou, everyone was talking about Cardspike and what the hell was CAP thinking to get itself involved with that? And the buzz going around the affiliate managers was why were they paying an exuberant fee to be listed at CAP, when CAP in fact is competing directly against them. That was the buzz.

Absolutely !! Is he really that out of touch with reality or does he just simply choose to be ??

Now that's some bad shit. I remember that - barely. Some members had reminded me of this a few weeks ago. That was a real stupid and roguish move on Lou's part.

That one single act there within itself is more than enough evidence for me that he is looking out for no ones best interests except for Lou's, and for him to actually WANT to acquire this type of player data info in the first place is unethical behavior on his part but to actually then further offer to sell this personal information to the highest bidder is simply a betrayal of ones trust and is also a traitorous act on his part. If this is not totally rogue behavior for someone that is supposedly looking out for the affiliates best interest since a majority of affiliates are also players, then I don't know what is!

He and CAP should have been rogued back when this first occurred IMO !

 

[mojo]

Well, the vote was set up by a member - which is fine. The poll may be therapeutic for some, but the roguing process is not a democratic process since (in this situation) it's not all that simple

I'll let it be for a couple of more days to let it run its course.

I'm still awaiting word on Cardspike by the way.

Patiently awaiting word from Casinomeisterland.