Secret of the Stones - NetEnt Game

[theapple]

well, I'm guessing it works like most slots..it doesn't matter what you pick - the results are pre-determined anyway.

We are all aware how most free spins features wont pay something extra super big, and most are ok with it.

except here we get to know it before free spins are played. and thats flawled imo. most other slots find a way to hide it so every single spin in bonus features has potential to win big (even if it actually doesnt, we cant know that for sure), while on this one ur pretty much aware ur free spins will pay crap even before u start playing them.

Secret of stones still could be remade into a bit less obvious money eating machine, with just a couple of tweaks.

But with all its faults, this might be the biggest of them all. They could change the number of stones, or adjust it so you "pick" wild reels more often (its predetermined anyways), but pays less on general (talking about pays with wild reels included, not wild-free, doubt it could pay less than it does now, lol). So instead of getting 2 wild reels once in a blue moon, you would get it more often, but the slot would still keep its potential to pay nothing - just like most other slots work

tldr:
this slot is probably not that much worse than many other slots of its kind, with one big difference - it doesnt try to hide how bad it actually is. And thats a glaring design mistake, imo. Ok sure its normal game pays are too few and between for my tastes and bonus feature is a such a mess that makes me hate this game more than i probably should

 

[brianmon]

I finally got something out of it

451x stake from 3 scatters/3 picks, wild reel 2, wild reel 4 and x2 multiplier

 

[peezo13]

this slot is absolute garabge

 

[tinybettor]

This game has been bloody awful for me the past few days. Got a nice little streak then everything went downhill. In one session I set autoplay for 200 spins at $1 with a starting balance of $200 and after the spins were complete I was left with ~$30. I made a couple deposits after at other casinos and got similar results. In my experience it seems like when the slots not going to pay, doesn't matter where you try it. Needless to say wasn't a happy camper after that, going to stay well away now! I have to say the variance is insane on this slot. I mean forge the massive wins, its already rare to get features paying >50x bet and if you're not getting those types of wins frequently, in succession and betting modestly, I don't know how one can win on these typical money sucking slots from Netent.

 

[mrmark21]

Yes the results on the picks are pre-determined horse shit. If the picks are pre-determined then why are the results always so terrible? Does Netent honestly think this will give players an incentive to keep playing. Yeah they might want to re-think that strategy.

I find it sooo much easier to hit a winning feature at the land based. The features come allot up less often but I don't think I've ever seen a feature return 0X the bet like the amount of times I have on Netent.

I gave up on Netent a while ago. I always found that I had better luck jumping around making about twenty spins on each slot until I hit a feature. But the features rarely pay-out so what's the point in trying to hit one? Anyway that's been my experience.

 

[RichieRespin]

Yes the results on the picks are pre-determined horse shit. If the picks are pre-determined then why are the results always so terrible? Does Netent honestly think this will give players an incentive to keep playing. Yeah they might want to re-think that strategy.

I know this "pre-determined" argument has popped up a lot, but I have been trying to understand what the problem is? How would this be different in any perceivable way from any other type of randomness? How would a player be able to tell the difference?

If all the picked results are determined before the player picks the first time, or if they are determined one after another as the player picks his way through the bonus, what possible difference would that make from a player perspective?

In both scenarios, we talk about 3 (or N) results being generated from the random number generator. What is the difference, then?

 

[tinybettor]

Goddammit. Just made a few more deposits hoping things would turn around but I should of known better. Just trying to get a single bonus round in each session was nothing short of frustrating. How cold can this RNG be seriously?! I've experienced bad runs on MG 243 high variants but these Netent slots just show absolutely no mercy when they aren't running hot, no bonus rounds in sight. Even playing hours on end for a week, I can't hit nothing that will bring my balance above the initial deposit. I know there are a few regular winners on Netent slots such as DOA but hows everyone's else experience playing other ones? Do you win some, lose some, or is it like me where you're just being constantly annihilated.

 

[Nate]

Goddammit. Just made a few more deposits hoping things would turn around but I should of known better. Just trying to get a single bonus round in each session was nothing short of frustrating. How cold can this RNG be seriously?! I've experienced bad runs on MG 243 high variants but these Netent slots just show absolutely no mercy when they aren't running hot, no bonus rounds in sight. Even playing hours on end for a week, I can't hit nothing that will bring my balance above the initial deposit. I know there are a few regular winners on Netent slots such as DOA but hows everyone's else experience playing other ones? Do you win some, lose some, or is it like me where you're just being constantly annihilated.

The latter - Constantly mauled - I do not play Secret of the Stones anymore or Creature from the Black Lagoon (As much as I love this game). You stand a wee bit of a better chance on TwinSpin in my experience (Although I have had bad sessions there too)

Secret of the Stones and CFTBL are relentless in killing a balance. SOTS actually has extremely poor base game hits and features rarely pay well. To top it off it takes ages to get the Free Spins. They can easily take 200-300x bet and dish out a 20x hit to cap off a frustrating experience.

Nate

 

[theapple]

Goddammit. Just made a few more deposits hoping things would turn around but I should of known better. Just trying to get a single bonus round in each session was nothing short of frustrating. How cold can this RNG be seriously?! I've experienced bad runs on MG 243 high variants but these Netent slots just show absolutely no mercy when they aren't running hot, no bonus rounds in sight. Even playing hours on end for a week, I can't hit nothing that will bring my balance above the initial deposit. I know there are a few regular winners on Netent slots such as DOA but hows everyone's else experience playing other ones? Do you win some, lose some, or is it like me where you're just being constantly annihilated.

i just stick to some of their older slots, because new ones are absolute garbage, imo. but even older slots can hit a cold patch quite often, so lately when i play netent games i usually just take 20-30 spins per game (ones i usually play at) and switch between my 3-5 games of choice after those 30ish spins.

I know i know, every single spin should be completely random and whatnot, but ive been playing netent slots forever and from my own experience, if they dont give you feature in first 20-30 spins, most of the time they'd go for 100's of spins without giving free spins or any decent payouts.

also i usually stick to jack and beanstalk, gonzos quest and just a few more. sometimes i add jackhammer (1, not 2) into my rotation (but just like 10 spins tops). that slot can go really really hot from time to time but like most netent slots, it can hit a cold streak (nothing short of novomatic slots ).

oh and regarding Secret of the stones ... never thought netent would be able to release a slot that makes pandora's box look good

 

[onkel]

Surprised to read that people dislike this game so much, imo the three latest releases from Netent have been excellent and I've had several 3-500x hits on all three (granted, I play a lot), I think I actually might be ahead on them. Having played both upcoming releases I think these three (SOTS, TS, CFTBL) are miiiiiiiles better.

 

[miso]

i just stick to some of their older slots, because new ones are absolute garbage, imo. but even older slots can hit a cold patch quite often, so lately when i play netent games i usually just take 20-30 spins per game (ones i usually play at) and switch between my 3-5 games of choice after those 30ish spins.

I know i know, every single spin should be completely random and whatnot, but ive been playing netent slots forever and from my own experience, if they dont give you feature in first 20-30 spins, most of the time they'd go for 100's of spins without giving free spins or any decent payouts.

also i usually stick to jack and beanstalk, gonzos quest and just a few more. sometimes i add jackhammer (1, not 2) into my rotation (but just like 10 spins tops). that slot can go really really hot from time to time but like most netent slots, it can hit a cold streak (nothing short of novomatic slots ).
oh and regarding Secret of the stones ... never thought netent would be able to release a slot that makes pandora's box look good

Amen to that Apple,
I am enjoying playing a lot more, now that I have given up on chasing bonus rounds on slots. Had a very bad evening in the middle of december,
got up to 600 and put 500 back to Creature, 1 euro spins. No FS in all those spins, I was raging. But since then, I only play as you wrote there,
20-30 spins and then move on.

And behold, I am getting more features than ever.



It applies to Secret of the Stones as well, and as much as I hated that game, now I quite like it.

 

[gokkie]

Secret of the stones is probably one of the worst of them all. I know I hav played it A LOT.
Crappy paytable, almost impossible to hit the free spins and when you do it pays no more than 15x bet 90% of the time.
It takes a wonder to even hit a bonus round higher than 100x because even with some good picks or 4 scatters you can get totally get screwed.

Also after picking the symbols you allready know the bonus round will pay crap so some times I just quick spin through it.
I have had 4 scatters 5 times and none of the occassions hit higher than 30x.

I have lost a balance of 200€ at 0,50€ cents bets 4 times one time without even hitting free spins.
Creature of the black lagoon can be totally brutal as wel but at least here is the possibility of a big win, with secret of the stones this virtually impossible.
Crap it is

 

[tinybettor]

I can totally relate. Its a shite slot yet I still continue playing. Silly me! Just tonight I made four deposits at some new casinos with 100% match offers and stuck playing this slot. Big mistake once again. Could barely complete even half of the wagering on all four deposits. Trying to get a bonus round is just plain ridiculous. I've done over 10k+ spins in just two weeks and I can't seem to even hit one lucky streak. Its the biggest money eater I've seen and definitely the most frustrating slot I've played. The only Netent slot that has been remotely kind to me is Gonzo. Have tried others but just cannot catch a break on any of them. And the thing I was taking a break from MG and decided to give Netent a spin but I think I'm going to stick to Playboy and the other 243 way incarnations as I've had much better success even on bad runs. Sorry for the little rant, just a bit fuming here.

 

[gokkie]

Yes I am totally steaming out of frustration about this ultimately non paying piece of sh&t.
Unbelievable

Also had 65% RTP session at MG, with an all time low of 18.5% on the FROL.

It made me take a break on all netent and MG for seven days. At least I now have some piece of mind

 

[kazzi]

Has anyone had a decent picks on 4scatters yet? hit my 6th today and the last 4 ones been 3xfreespins and wild/multiplier it pisses me off, since had a good amount of 150-300x on 3scatters.

Also hit the magic reel2+4 wild with 2x multi 3 times and only 1 paid 170x the other 2 was crappy as hell.

 

[b3b44]

i only had ONE decent 3 scatter pick which paid 1000x plus never a decent 4 scatter pick

have had many 200-300x hits but nowadays i hardly play this game anymore as it has gone cold compared to when the slot was just released IMO

 

[gokkie]

I have had over 250 features, most of them crap.
I never picked wild2 and wild4 +MP.
I think I had 4 scatters about 5 times, all of them with shitty picks (3 free spins stones)

 

[tinybettor]

I've had 5 scatters once and it paid a paltry 60x bet. Got all the crappy picks. I've only got the Wild Reel 2 & 4 once which 99% guarantees for a big win. This slot is absolutely insane in variance, one which I'd love to seem some stats on. I have no doubt the results will be in line with the general consensus but maybe even produce some stats that would shock some of us.

 

[kazzi]

The variance on this slot is just stupid cause its not really high varianced since there is none wins on the paytable besides the 50x which i can assume you can get 2xlines of in normal play.

But the way it act is really strange, most of the times it will go 2-300spin before a feature come and pay shit, but ive had sessions where it keep't giving features every ~50spin for 8-10features actually where 80% paid close to 100x or 2-300x.

But since others say 3freespin picks in 4scatters i wonder how the slot choose the random picks, i know there is most freespins picks ofc but 3/4 is just stupid every time.

And on 3 scatters if first pick is freespins its 99% over you wont win anything, i like the slot but the design is horribole.

 

[gokkie]

The stones are weighted somehow and not random.
Because if they were with 3 scatters you should pick 3 free spins stones most of the time.
I have never picked 3 free spins stones on 3 scatters. I think it is almost impossible to pick wild reel2, wild reel 4 and MP on 3 scatters, but even with 4-5 scatters you get screwed somehow by the game, because still you get these lousy picks.

 

[b3b44]

The stones are weighted somehow and not random.
Because if they were with 3 scatters you should pick 3 free spins stones most of the time.
I have never picked 3 free spins stones on 3 scatters. I think it is almost impossible to pick wild reel2, wild reel 4 and MP on 3 scatters, but even with 4-5 scatters you get screwed somehow by the game, because still you get these lousy picks.

Well its not impossible i have done it before but it was a one time exception lmao

 

[kazzi]

Well its not impossible i have done it before but it was a one time exception lmao

I did hit my 3x wild2+4+mp in same session so not impossible but like i said only 1 paid 170x last 2 sucked hard, so still not 100% huge win on those picks it just throws tons of 4oak at you which never pays much.

 

[gokkie]

I just lost 250€ on this piece of sh1t at 0,75€ bets without ONE SINGLE bonus round. So so so so so bad.
It digusted me so much that I have now excluded myself from all netent casinos's.
As these were the only casino's I played at, allready closed all others, no more gambling for me for now.

 

[KasinoKing]

I just lost 250€ on this piece of sh1t at 0,75€ bets without ONE SINGLE bonus round. So so so so so bad.
It digusted me so much that I have now excluded myself from all netent casinos's.
As these were the only casino's I played at, allready closed all others, no more gambling for me for now.

Could be in the long run, that this game has done you a big favour then!

KK