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Jaxon

Dormant account
Hey everyone,

We have recently been scammed by an affiliate. Wayne Jackson is his name and his url is
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. Everybody STAY AWAY from this guy! He initially sent us an email in on Feb 1, 2009 and asked if we would like to speak to him about promotions, so I added him to msn and away we went. Below is his actual proposal:

For monthly fee of $XXX per month, we will place a gurantee that you will receive anywhere from 40+ depositing players or full refund issued.
Positon (1) Comes with banners on every page, Inclusion to our database of 9000+ registered readers from our News Letter
and over 1000 regsitered community forum members that are currently active and depositing players.

For a one time offer we are prepaird to offer you 2 months for the price of one as a test run if you wanted this option as well.

We came to an agreement and I foolishly sent him prepayment for his services. After a couple of months of zero results, I contacted him and asked for our money back. He said that he would pay us back, but now its June and he still hasnt paid us. It seemed highly unlikely that we were going to get our money back, so we asked around and tried to find out more about this scammer and it turns out that he is known for running scams like this. Below is a snippet of a response from one of Waynes ex-employees,

he sets up media deals with casino's gets up front money, makes guarantees he will bring in xxx amount of depositing players or your money back, once the casino manager sends him the money he disappears, this is his MO and I don't deal with people of this nature. he also owed me alot of money and never paid me or other staff

We emailed him numerous times and he would take weeks to get back to us and it seemed like we were chasing a ghost at times. We are not making false accusations and we have all the supporting conversations and emails saved between the two of us. We just want to alert everybody of this scam artist and make sure that he doesnt ever scam anyone ever again! If anyone has any additional information or has been a victim to this scammer, please PM me or post about it.

Regards,

Jaxon
 

vegetagirl2008

Mafia Wars Level 472
Like with everything, I strongly suggest before reaching any deals with anyone is to do your research. It is very critical due to the fact not only your losing money you are losing credibility as well. Please don't be so gullible to reach out to anyone who can get you players. I hope this time its a lesson learned.
 

winbig

Keep winning this amount.
At the very least, let this be a warning to all others...

<devils advocate>

Even I'm not a marketing or SEO expert, but as soon as I went to the site, thanks to Google's toolbar, I saw that it had a PR of 0...that, combined with an alexa rank of 3M+, 5 sites linking in, etc....well....


Indeed, do a little more research next time instead of seeing $ signs and jumping in head first. Did you even ask for proof of their track record with other advertising campaigns that would show that they were capable of providing 40+ signups per month?

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</devils advocate>

Even so, I hope you get your money back, but I seriously doubt that you will.
 

swampwitch

ProfessionalUnderachiever
To Jaxon....

The net is overflowing with info on Wayne/GamblingGod/Jumpstar. I understand you're eager to get on and make a good deal...but where was the due diligence? It wouldn't take too much searching to find his reputation is, shall we say, crap.

Honey, I got stories......
 

jetset

RIP Brian
CAG
Oh dear.....

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Under Construction!

All board info has been removed by jumpstarrs without my consent. I do not support any other sites that are using my name Playin4Keeps or P4K Gaming.

jumstarrs is not to be trusted in my opinion.

Check back from time to time for upsates about re-opening of Playin4Keeps.
 

swampwitch

ProfessionalUnderachiever
What the OP is talking about ain't your mother's P4K. That was owned and operated by Christine. She employed Wayne after he'd opened and closed a few boards...another story altogether (Honey, lemme tell ya...). She took a powder/sabbatical, Wayne staged a coup.
 

daera

Dormant account
To Jaxon....

The net is overflowing with info on Wayne/GamblingGod/Jumpstar. I understand you're eager to get on and make a good deal...but where was the due diligence? It wouldn't take too much searching to find his reputation is, shall we say, crap.

Honey, I got stories......
There's stories upon stories. And it simply amazes me how many people he's able to fool, and for how long.

I guarantee no one is going to receive that so-called refund from him. And wouldn't be surprised if I, or anyone else posting receives a nasty email or pm from him for doing so.

Stay away from him! He's a big con artist/scammer!
 

greedygirl

Purveyor of Onions
What shocks me most in all this is that Wayne continues to use his name! You'd think with all of his history being so well known, it would be easier to use an alias.

Just like herpes, Wayne keeps coming back! :rolleyes:
 

swampwitch

ProfessionalUnderachiever
Just like herpes, Wayne keeps coming back! :rolleyes:
Unfortunately there is no treatment to halt the spread of Wayne.

(RIMSHOT) Thanks folks, we'll be here all week. Be sure to try the scampi!


WAYNE SPEAKS...He gives his side in what is at first a well-written and thoughtful response...and then suddenly everything just devolves.
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Jaxon

Dormant account
Indeed, do a little more research next time instead of seeing $ signs and jumping in head first. Did you even ask for proof of their track record with other advertising campaigns that would show that they were capable of providing 40+ signups per month?
I'll be the first to admit that I was gullible and naive in pursuing this deal with Wayne. Please do not let my shortcomings take away from the intent of the thread and that is to warn others of this potential Scam.

Jaxon
 

vegetagirl2008

Mafia Wars Level 472
It happens to the best of us. I hope that you find this guy and hopefully law enforcement gets a hold of him as well. Thank you for posting this many people may have been taken in by this nut. Hope he get his just desserts. What goes around comes around.
 

greedygirl

Purveyor of Onions
I'll be the first to admit that I was gullible and naive in pursuing this deal with Wayne. Please do not let my shortcomings take away from the intent of the thread and that is to warn others of this potential Scam.

Jaxon
No worries--everyone I know that's been in this business has been burned at one point or another. It's almost a rite of passage. You learn from it and move on. No doubt you'll now know a bit more to look for when it comes to media buys. And you certainly did the right thing by making this public.

I get that the industry tends to be quite private, but if you ever have any questions or concerns, just drop me a PM--happy to help. :)
 

Jaxon

Dormant account
Agreement Reach

Hey all,

Jet Set Marketing and p4ks have reached an agreement in which the amount owing will be repaid within 3 months, with October 30, 2009 as the deadline.

I'd like to personally thank everyone that has supported us/me through this process; we/I really appreciate it. The thread has been closed for now at GPWA, but I will keep you all posted and have it reopened if need be.

Thanks,

Jaxon
 

lots0

Banned User - troll posts - flaming
it's gonna take him 3 months to pay back $495... ROTFLMAO

So Jaxon was your purpose in starting this thread to expose a scam artiest or to collect your $495.00?
 

Jaxon

Dormant account
it's gonna take him 3 months to pay back $495... ROTFLMAO

So Jaxon was your purpose in starting this thread to expose a scam artiest or to collect your $495.00?
The amount that is outstanding was never posted by me and in my original post I mentioned it as "$xxx". MY intention was to inform others of what had happened to me and Jet Set Marketing, not to get the money back.

Jaxon
 

AussieDave

Dodgy whacko backstabber
Hi All,

Wished I'd see this thread earlier, sorry.

I've had numerous dealings with Mr Wayne Jackson that date back to 2001. All bad I may add.

In some instances he make the Virtual Casino Group look like Angels. This guy is BAD news!

For those that were around in the eZboard days you'll remembered Payin4Keeps (Christine). Wayne Jackson was a Mod over on the forum. In addition here is some other juicy bits of Wayne Jackson:

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(MoneyBag$ - aka Wayne Jackson - I believe)

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(Jumpstarss - Mod?)
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(Admin - Jumpstar - aka Wayne Jackson)

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(Jumpstarss)

2005 - onwards - Wayne Jackson (aka Carl Roberts)
pla7net
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(not Wayne - But old ezboard friend)
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Gamble Guy
kiwidream
wwwchipstalker (?)
Chipstalker(?)
Chipstalkers (?)
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TheCasinoBandit
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(network ban)

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$50 Free Scam
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Cheers
T

PS If he tries to pull a disappearing stunt again send me a PM I have his current contact details in New Zealand.
 

AussieDave

Dodgy whacko backstabber
The thread has been closed for now at GPWA
I Hold private membership at the GPWA, I warned them about this guy. At the time not too many people believed me. So I'm greatful that you posted this to the GPWA Jaxon :thumbsup:

Not that I've received any feedback as a result :rolleyes:

But it proves that my concerns for the GPWA integrity were legit and not fuelled by a personal vendetta.


Cheers
T
 

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