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Discussion in 'Content Thieves and other Evil Doers' started by Jaxon, Jun 28, 2009.

    Jun 28, 2009
  1. Jaxon

    Jaxon Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Manager
    Location:
    Canada
    Hey everyone,

    We have recently been scammed by an affiliate. Wayne Jackson is his name and his url is You must register/login in order to see the link.. Everybody STAY AWAY from this guy! He initially sent us an email in on Feb 1, 2009 and asked if we would like to speak to him about promotions, so I added him to msn and away we went. Below is his actual proposal:

    For monthly fee of $XXX per month, we will place a gurantee that you will receive anywhere from 40+ depositing players or full refund issued.
    Positon (1) Comes with banners on every page, Inclusion to our database of 9000+ registered readers from our News Letter
    and over 1000 regsitered community forum members that are currently active and depositing players.

    For a one time offer we are prepaird to offer you 2 months for the price of one as a test run if you wanted this option as well.

    We came to an agreement and I foolishly sent him prepayment for his services. After a couple of months of zero results, I contacted him and asked for our money back. He said that he would pay us back, but now its June and he still hasnt paid us. It seemed highly unlikely that we were going to get our money back, so we asked around and tried to find out more about this scammer and it turns out that he is known for running scams like this. Below is a snippet of a response from one of Waynes ex-employees,

    he sets up media deals with casino's gets up front money, makes guarantees he will bring in xxx amount of depositing players or your money back, once the casino manager sends him the money he disappears, this is his MO and I don't deal with people of this nature. he also owed me alot of money and never paid me or other staff

    We emailed him numerous times and he would take weeks to get back to us and it seemed like we were chasing a ghost at times. We are not making false accusations and we have all the supporting conversations and emails saved between the two of us. We just want to alert everybody of this scam artist and make sure that he doesnt ever scam anyone ever again! If anyone has any additional information or has been a victim to this scammer, please PM me or post about it.

    Regards,

    Jaxon
     
    7 people like this.
  2. Jun 28, 2009
  3. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

    Occupation:
    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    Like with everything, I strongly suggest before reaching any deals with anyone is to do your research. It is very critical due to the fact not only your losing money you are losing credibility as well. Please don't be so gullible to reach out to anyone who can get you players. I hope this time its a lesson learned.
     
    4 people like this.
  4. Jun 28, 2009
  5. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    At the very least, let this be a warning to all others...

    <devils advocate>

    Even I'm not a marketing or SEO expert, but as soon as I went to the site, thanks to Google's toolbar, I saw that it had a PR of 0...that, combined with an alexa rank of 3M+, 5 sites linking in, etc....well....


    Indeed, do a little more research next time instead of seeing $ signs and jumping in head first. Did you even ask for proof of their track record with other advertising campaigns that would show that they were capable of providing 40+ signups per month?

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    </devils advocate>

    Even so, I hope you get your money back, but I seriously doubt that you will.
     
    2 people like this.
  6. Jun 28, 2009
  7. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

    Occupation:
    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    This maybe your guy..he has a forum maybe you can post there..or report the site to whomever.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Wayne Jackson
    Private
    Upper Hutt, Wellington 5018,
    New Zealand
    jamway [at] worldnet.co.nz

    This email is not visible to you.
     
  8. Jun 28, 2009
  9. swampwitch

    swampwitch ProfessionalUnderachiever CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Independent craftsperson specializing in chenille
    Location:
    Iowa, dammit.
    To Jaxon....

    The net is overflowing with info on Wayne/GamblingGod/Jumpstar. I understand you're eager to get on and make a good deal...but where was the due diligence? It wouldn't take too much searching to find his reputation is, shall we say, crap.

    Honey, I got stories......
     
    12 people like this.
  10. Jun 28, 2009
  11. greedygirl

    greedygirl Purveyor of Onions CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Marketing & Advertising
    Location:
    Someplace other than where you're at
    Ahhhhhhh...the old days, Swampy. Oyster, P4K, KyBeauty, ATG and others.

    Just thinking about it makes me fear going to bed tonight. Too many nightmares. :p
     
    7 people like this.
  12. Jun 28, 2009
  13. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Oh dear.....

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Under Construction!

    All board info has been removed by jumpstarrs without my consent. I do not support any other sites that are using my name Playin4Keeps or P4K Gaming.

    jumstarrs is not to be trusted in my opinion.

    Check back from time to time for upsates about re-opening of Playin4Keeps.
     
    1 person likes this.
  14. Jun 28, 2009
  15. swampwitch

    swampwitch ProfessionalUnderachiever CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Independent craftsperson specializing in chenille
    Location:
    Iowa, dammit.
    What the OP is talking about ain't your mother's P4K. That was owned and operated by Christine. She employed Wayne after he'd opened and closed a few boards...another story altogether (Honey, lemme tell ya...). She took a powder/sabbatical, Wayne staged a coup.
     
    3 people like this.
  16. Jun 28, 2009
  17. daera

    daera Ueber Meister webmeister

    Occupation:
    The Hodgepodge
    Location:
    USA
    There's stories upon stories. And it simply amazes me how many people he's able to fool, and for how long.

    I guarantee no one is going to receive that so-called refund from him. And wouldn't be surprised if I, or anyone else posting receives a nasty email or pm from him for doing so.

    Stay away from him! He's a big con artist/scammer!
     
    4 people like this.
  18. Jun 28, 2009
  19. swampwitch

    swampwitch ProfessionalUnderachiever CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Independent craftsperson specializing in chenille
    Location:
    Iowa, dammit.
    You forgot plagiarist and professional victim.
     
    8 people like this.
  20. Jun 28, 2009
  21. greedygirl

    greedygirl Purveyor of Onions CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Marketing & Advertising
    Location:
    Someplace other than where you're at
    What shocks me most in all this is that Wayne continues to use his name! You'd think with all of his history being so well known, it would be easier to use an alias.

    Just like herpes, Wayne keeps coming back! :rolleyes:
     
    4 people like this.
  22. Jun 28, 2009
  23. swampwitch

    swampwitch ProfessionalUnderachiever CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Independent craftsperson specializing in chenille
    Location:
    Iowa, dammit.
    Unfortunately there is no treatment to halt the spread of Wayne.

    (RIMSHOT) Thanks folks, we'll be here all week. Be sure to try the scampi!


    WAYNE SPEAKS...He gives his side in what is at first a well-written and thoughtful response...and then suddenly everything just devolves.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2009
    2 people like this.
  24. Jun 28, 2009
  25. Jaxon

    Jaxon Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Manager
    Location:
    Canada
    I'll be the first to admit that I was gullible and naive in pursuing this deal with Wayne. Please do not let my shortcomings take away from the intent of the thread and that is to warn others of this potential Scam.

    Jaxon
     
    9 people like this.
  26. Jun 28, 2009
  27. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

    Occupation:
    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    It happens to the best of us. I hope that you find this guy and hopefully law enforcement gets a hold of him as well. Thank you for posting this many people may have been taken in by this nut. Hope he get his just desserts. What goes around comes around.
     
    3 people like this.
  28. Jun 29, 2009
  29. greedygirl

    greedygirl Purveyor of Onions CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Marketing & Advertising
    Location:
    Someplace other than where you're at
    No worries--everyone I know that's been in this business has been burned at one point or another. It's almost a rite of passage. You learn from it and move on. No doubt you'll now know a bit more to look for when it comes to media buys. And you certainly did the right thing by making this public.

    I get that the industry tends to be quite private, but if you ever have any questions or concerns, just drop me a PM--happy to help. :)
     
    4 people like this.
  30. Jun 30, 2009
  31. Jaxon

    Jaxon Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Manager
    Location:
    Canada
    Agreement Reach

    Hey all,

    Jet Set Marketing and p4ks have reached an agreement in which the amount owing will be repaid within 3 months, with October 30, 2009 as the deadline.

    I'd like to personally thank everyone that has supported us/me through this process; we/I really appreciate it. The thread has been closed for now at GPWA, but I will keep you all posted and have it reopened if need be.

    Thanks,

    Jaxon
     
  32. Jun 30, 2009
  33. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    I do nothing productive
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    it's gonna take him 3 months to pay back $495... ROTFLMAO

    So Jaxon was your purpose in starting this thread to expose a scam artiest or to collect your $495.00?
     
    1 person likes this.
  34. Jul 1, 2009
  35. Jaxon

    Jaxon Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Manager
    Location:
    Canada
    The amount that is outstanding was never posted by me and in my original post I mentioned it as "$xxx". MY intention was to inform others of what had happened to me and Jet Set Marketing, not to get the money back.

    Jaxon
     
    2 people like this.
  36. Jul 1, 2009
  37. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    Hi All,

    Wished I'd see this thread earlier, sorry.

    I've had numerous dealings with Mr Wayne Jackson that date back to 2001. All bad I may add.

    In some instances he make the Virtual Casino Group look like Angels. This guy is BAD news!

    For those that were around in the eZboard days you'll remembered Payin4Keeps (Christine). Wayne Jackson was a Mod over on the forum. In addition here is some other juicy bits of Wayne Jackson:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    (MoneyBag$ - aka Wayne Jackson - I believe)

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link. >>
    (Jumpstarss - Mod?)
    You must register/login in order to see the link. >>
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    (Admin - Jumpstar - aka Wayne Jackson)

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    (Jumpstarss)

    2005 - onwards - Wayne Jackson (aka Carl Roberts)
    pla7net
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    (not Wayne - But old ezboard friend)
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Gamble Guy
    kiwidream
    wwwchipstalker (?)
    Chipstalker(?)
    Chipstalkers (?)
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    TheCasinoBandit
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (network ban)

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    $50 Free Scam
    You must register/login in order to see the link.


    Cheers
    T

    PS If he tries to pull a disappearing stunt again send me a PM I have his current contact details in New Zealand.
     
    6 people like this.
  38. Jul 1, 2009
  39. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    I Hold private membership at the GPWA, I warned them about this guy. At the time not too many people believed me. So I'm greatful that you posted this to the GPWA Jaxon :thumbsup:

    Not that I've received any feedback as a result :rolleyes:

    But it proves that my concerns for the GPWA integrity were legit and not fuelled by a personal vendetta.


    Cheers
    T
     
    3 people like this.

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