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Santorum's out, Romney is anti-gambling. Bothered?

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by Simmo!, Apr 10, 2012.

    Apr 10, 2012
  1. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    In light of You must register/login in order to see the link., what effect might this have on the future of online gaming for the USA bearing in mind Romney is anti-online gambling? Do the Republicans stand a good chance of getting in? Anyone any thoughts?
     
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  3. ksb11

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    I hope the Republicans reclaim office. I will just worry about gambling online later, or continue to walk the vague legal line of internet gambling the way I have always done, if the possibility to do so remains.
     
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  5. Simmo!

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    If he made it into office would it a) be too late bearing in mind States have already started he legalisation process and b) would he really be able to veto it on personal grounds? I know he *could* but the financial situation seems to have made online gambling a priority and what are the alternative ways out? It'a already got many of the original "family values" mob singing from a different hymnsheet and common sense dictates the industry needs regulation.
     
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  7. harrys99

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    Honestly feeling dispirited. Not so much because I was a Santorum supporter but because from the beginning of this primary season I have been an "anybody but Romney" supporter. If Romney doesn't get people more excited, Republicans are just going to stay home instead of voting and hand the thing right over to Obama.

    This country cannot take another 4 years of Obama. The "Unaffordable Healthcare Act" is one of the worst pieces of rammed down legislation I can remember. One of the worst Presidents EVER. Terribly Anti-small business.

    I'm with KSB-I'll deal with the online gambling issue if Romney wins.
     
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  9. harrys99

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    He may be personally against gambling but he is for giving more control to the states on a lot of issues and less about growing a bigger federal government.
     
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  11. JAMES50

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    ANY body but Romney,,,,,The man that hog tied the middle class in Mass...........You think the feds are non partisan now? lolol Wait to see what happens if we are cursed enough to get him as our leader.....
     
  12. Apr 11, 2012
  13. Simmo!

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    In the grand scheme of things, online gambling is pretty unimportant - and politics is as emotive a topic as gambing if not more so - but if we could keep this discusion on how Romney in the driving seat could impact online gambling legislation specifically, that's what I was really after hearing :thumbsup:
     
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  15. harrys99

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    Yes you're right it is an emotional subject.:) I can't see that he would govern against the will/majority of the people though. (unpopular veto) I think the gambling legislation may be impacted more on whether the Republicans take over the Senate in 2012 as they did with the House in 2010. (super majority)
     
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  17. Simmo!

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    Thing is though, the legislative attempts are really being driven by the politicians who need to raise money for their State's welfare. Although there are undoubtedly a lot of Americans that would like to gamble online I'm sure, the UIGEA didn't get the general public up in arms exactly. Pockets of complainants obviously. Even Kentucky's blatant ongoing attempt at Internet Censorship hasn't caused much more than a few ripples on the surface of the popular press from what I can gather.

    If the global financial troubles started to ease, I wonder if a combination of a new anti-gambling president and a loss of momentum might effectively come into play. Of course, now NJ have legalised it and a few other States probably will have by then, maybe it's too late to stop it? Especially if, as you say above, Romney is keen to ensure the States have more independence in decision making processes.
     
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  19. harrys99

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    He is on record now for giving more control to the states and one of the first "big hitters" to come out in his camp was Governor Christie of New Jersey, there was even some talk of his being a possible running mate. This may carry some "weight".
     
  20. Apr 14, 2012
  21. supergirleileen

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    Moot Point

    It's a moot point. Romney will never win.:what:
     
  22. Apr 14, 2012
  23. max1mike

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    yeah, which is just great. we'll be stuck with the chairman for four more. we're doomed. kinda glad I'm old.

    ron paul baby !!
     
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  25. Surasanji

    Surasanji Experienced Member

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    There are some days I'm really happy not to be directly involved in the mess of American Politics anymore. ;)



    I'd probably vote Republican if I could be promised a shrinking of the Federal Government- and an expansion of states rights. I feel that be for the best on all things- including Online Gambling.

    New Jersey and Nevada would probably become big Online Casino Licences. Both states already have legal gambling in some places, and so the frame-work is already in place to get licenses out there.

    I'd think it take a lot less work to just modify the current land-based licensing requirements and government offices than to create a whole new set of laws, with a new governmental department set up- and probably cheaper too!

    I guess I'll need to do some more research since MY personal wishes for an American President have changed since leaving the country. :oops:
     
  26. Apr 15, 2012
  27. Silencio

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    a Mormon for president.. :what:
    republicans are pushing the limits of craziness. well actually he's the least crazy of the bunch but still..
    if anybody doesn't know what those fruitcakes believe in, watch this south park episode, yes it's funny and absurd, but it's actually what Mormons believe to be the truth :D You must register/login in order to see the link.
    so. Obama is here to stay. Thank god! (Please god!)
    Not sure how Obama feels about online gambling, but who cares, this is much more important than gambling.
     
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  29. pokeraddict

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    There is a near zero chance of federal online gambling. It looks like there is no interest in passing it, and now states are taking it into their own hands. Once a few states have acted on it, the feds will be too late to the party. Poker has a slight chance, everything else is zero IMO.
     
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  31. P.V.

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    While sparring with Rick Perry over healthcare at the debate in Des Moines, Romney challenged Perry to a wager. The stakes? A cool 10 grand. That's not exactly your typical bar bet. "I'll tell you what. 10,000 bucks? Ten-thousand-dollar bet?" Romney said. :D
     
  32. Apr 15, 2012
  33. harrys99

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    Southpark also made fun of the Muslims.

    Hope there are no members here who practice the Mormon faith or who have relatives that do. (as I do)

    Calling someone's religion crazy, fruitcakes is a sign of religious intolerance and highly offensive :rolleyes:
     
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  35. Silencio

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    Well I'm sorry if that offended you but I don't see the Mormon religion as a religion, because then the church of scientology would be one as well. And even though they are very dangerous group compared to the Mormons, the beliefs are almost equally crazy.
    Seriously, I see you have an avicon which is an Indian image right? They believe an Indian Angel contacted Joseph Smith and gave him the golden tablets and seer stones, and this Angel was white. This is explained to be because Indians used to be white but when god put them on the earth he made them red as punishment..
    or something.. (more or less correct, I'm not an expert) so dark skinned people are dark skinned because they were punished by god?! you don't find that offensive?
    just a small example.. oh and Adam and Eve used to lived in Virginia.

    here's a wikipedia quote, source: You must register/login in order to see the link.
    According to the Book of Mormon, a Lamanite (play /ˈleɪ.mʌn.aɪt/)[1] is a member of a dark-skinned nation of indigenous Americans that battled with the light-skinned Nephite nation. Although mainstream archaeologists, geneticists, and historians do not recognize the existence of Lamanites, adherents of the Latter Day Saint movement typically believe that the Lamanites comprise some part, if not the entirety, of the indigenous peoples of the Americas and the Polynesian people.

    The Book of Mormon describes the Lamanites as descendants of Laman and Lemuel, two rebellious brothers of a family of Israelites who crossed the ocean in a boat around 600 BC. Their brother Nephi founded the Nephite nation. The Lamanites reputedly gained their dark skin as a sign of the curse for their rebelliousness (the curse itself being the withdrawal of the Spirit of God), and warred with the Nephites over a period of centuries. The book says that Jesus appeared and converted all the Lamanites to Christianity; however, after about two centuries, the Lamanites fell away and eventually exterminated all the Nephites. By the end of the Book of Mormon, the Lamanites were defined less by their skin color than by their lack of Christianity. Many Mormons believe that the Polynesian people originated from the descendents of Hagoth who led his people off on a ship and was never heard from again. Although Hagoth was a Nephite, these Mormons regard Polynesians as Lamanites.

    The existence of a Lamanite nation has received no support within mainstream science or archaeology. Genetic studies indicate that the indigenous Americans are primarily from northeast Asia, and the Polynesians are from southeast Asia. This has led many Mormon apologetic scholars to hypothesize that the Lamanites were a small nation that merged with the indigenous population of northeast Asian origin and left no clear traces surviving into the modern world. Within the culture of Mormonism, indigenous Americans and Polynesians are still often called "Lamanites", but the practice is waning.
     
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  37. harrys99

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    @ silencio

    You should have stopped at I'm sorry.

    Debating about religion and one's ethnicity is irrelevant to Romney being anti-gambling which is the topic of this thread.
     
  38. Apr 15, 2012
  39. Silencio

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    well you called me intolerant.. which is bs.
    if you start declaring things that aren't true, I shouldn't respond?
    it seems to me you are just ignorant.
    also south park never made fun of muslims. they do make fun of jews every episode, but you never hear them complain.

    oh and I forgot about ron paul. he was the least crazy of the bunch :)
    :end derail:
     

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