Rusty - You Cannot Be Serious?!!!

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DiamondGeezer

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Ha ha try over 300 deposits without a cashout all software. Of course I have been ahead a few times in that lot but usually shortly after a deposit or ona bonus where I couldn't cash out.

Here are two typical sessions in the last week.

IGT 338 spins zero bonus rounds 38% RTP

MGS 550 spins zero bonus rounds 42% RTP

Those stas would of been impossible a few years ago which tells us just how low the RTP is being set at some casinos or just how much the weighting goes into overdrive when the casino is on the take.

If you are very lucky you will get some play time and entertainment but who wants to play at high stakes with those odds?

I have not got over 90% return with any software playing slots yret they all advertise over 90% and up to 97%.
Maybe my millions (billions probably) of game instances are too smaller sample size though :rolleyes:

As for the industry dying, nah.
They have obviously calculated that they make more money by ripping their customers off than having them enjoy more playtime - whether that is short sighted or not I don't know but those of us who played from the early days probably still play (maybe less but still play) and we all know the slots play nothing like they used to.

Anyway if out and out rogues can turn a profit I am sure big brand names can.


Thought I'd move this over to a new thread because IMO it merits more discussion.

Rusty you can't seriously be claiming you have lost 300 deposits on the bounce? I'm sorry but this just does not compute.

Do you have any evidence to support these outlandish claims?

I like your strapline btw. Although I am ridiculing you now but by the end of this thread I may well be citing you as accepted wisdom :).
 

Rusty

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Thought I'd move this over to a new thread because IMO it merits more discussion.

Rusty you can't seriously be claiming you have lost 300 deposits on the bounce? I'm sorry but this just does not compute.

Do you have any evidence to support these outlandish claims?

I like your strapline btw. Although I am ridiculing you now but by the end of this thread I may well be citing you as accepted wisdom :).

I will go easy on you though as I know you're not a bad sort.

I am not claiming anything, I am telling you.
As for proof I could "prove" it if I was lying by posting my losing deposits and omitting any winning ones so that is silly.
Anyone who knows me here (and you should) knows I don't bullshit.
I may be a little out with a percentage here or there or yes I can and do make genuine mistakes but lie, nope.

Think of it this way, I have played well over a hundred casinos in the years I have played online - I have probably played just about every accredited casino here at one time or another and many more besides - do you think I would post something that any Rep here could easily disprove?

Remember, I didn't say I was never ahead in any of those deposits - I play out my balances unless I have a really nice win.
What I said was that only in a few instances did I have realistic opportunity to cash out as a winner.
I don't consider winning $5 in your first 10 spins a realistic opportunity for example or still having WR on a bonus.
Not that it really matters, I could cash out and declare myself a winner and then redeposit and lose it just the same but I'm not into self delusion.

Today I had a good run at a MG casino, plenty of playtime but my balance never went over about $60. No complaints there, that is how it used to be on many session.
These days though there are just too many sessions where you hit endless losing streaks and the bonus rounds are rare as rocking horse shit.
It is all to common now to have a RTP under 50% over a few hundred spins on supposedly low variance slots.
The point is the slots overall are much tighter than they were a few years back but if you believe otherwise Ces't la vie. :cool:
 

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Do you mean - SIX months of playing without any single withdrawal??? :eek:
I would have already stopped depositing...
 

Rusty

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Which is hardly surprising.....

You will find there would have been many chances to cashout but it wasn't done.

We've heard all this before and I have a grain of salt here if you'd like one :thumbsup:

Nifty go and shill somewhere else, the only person full of shit around here is you.

How about you get all the reps to post my big wins and cashouts?
How many times have I openly invited audits of my accounts by the software companies?
Why don't you provide some proof you're not a little shill that just trolls every post that tells it the way it is.
I have plenty of proof that says you are.
I'm calling you out you little shit and I'm serious when I say you had better never cross my path out in the big wide real world - I have no time for intellectually vacant little arsewipes like you anymore.
Now go and crawl back under the slimy rock you came out from under you little prick.

Thumbs up!
 

Cleveland

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internet threats = pointless.....everyone is tough behind the computer screen :rolleyes:

But I am curious to know what a "shill" is. I've been seeing it in different post and understand it from a context point of few (i think). Can anyone explain the term?
 

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Since Rusty made a withdrawal of 125 several months ago I believe he did really lose the number of deposits he claims and though he was occasionally ahead on some deposits they werent enough to warrant being cashed out.

Honestly, these things do happen and when I reach around a dozen deposits with no cashouts I just stop depositing for a while but thats just me.
 

Nifty29

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Kauphy - you should be ashamed of yourself for thanking a post like that.

If anyone has any evidence that I am employed by casinos to defend them and cover up the horrible truth about how players are bound to lose, let's have it.

Cleveland...yes those internet tough guys are very scary. I'll make sure I sleep with one eye open.
 

bAdSmoker

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Nifty go and shill somewhere else, the only person full of shit around here is you.

How about you get all the reps to post my big wins and cashouts?
How many times have I openly invited audits of my accounts by the software companies?
Why don't you provide some proof you're not a little shill that just trolls every post that tells it the way it is.
I have plenty of proof that says you are.
I'm calling you out you little shit and I'm serious when I say you had better never cross my path out in the big wide real world - I have no time for intellectually vacant little arsewipes like you anymore.
Now go and crawl back under the slimy rock you came out from under you little prick.

Thumbs up!

I agree with everything you just said.

Is there no policy on these forums that deals with forum trolls?
 

Cleveland

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Let me start by saying I'm the first to want to make a ton of money at online casinos or a B&M. I would be surprised if anyone wants it as bad as me. That being said:

The problem is that so many players seem to think they deserve to win as if they aren't gambling but investing into a sure thing. It's hard to separate that type of player from someone who has a legitimate complaint. (i'm not saying any player in this thread doesn't have a legitimate gripe.)

The fact of the matter is you could deposit left and right into a casino and not ever have what you feel is a "worthy" cashout amount but that doesn't mean the casino is tight/cheating/rigged etc. You might just be, well I hate to say it but.....unlucky. I'm sure there are those who have lost thousands at a B&M but most would be slow to accuse them of any wrong doings. It takes more than a "I deposited x amount over y years and never won z." If you present 20 players who have had those types of experiences and then they present 20 players who haven't, then how do you determine that the first group was treated unfairly/different?

Forgive me for rambling but I've read through so many of these types of post. I could see if the overwhelming large portion of the masses were pouring in and screaming "foul" but it's typically the same portion of people. It's just to hard to determine what should be given weight and what shouldn't. Hell if you read enough post you see that you have some singing praises of a particular casino and then others that swear the casino is run by the devil himself. It's at the point where people might as well play or not play based on whatever their gut tells them, instead of coming to the forums for advice (i'm exaggerating btw).

I've felt the urge to call highnoon out for blatant cheating. I mean come on I bet $ 25.00 on a hand of blackjack, double down so now I'm up to 50.00. Have a 20 and think "win" then he slowly walks himself up to 21 with an insane amount of cards. O really? But every time I want to yell cheat, I can't help but think of the 1,000 + dollars I've won playing blackjack and mostly using dollars bets at highnoon.

side note: yea my grammar and spelling suck. I can't be awesome in all areas.

side note x 2: If people are correct and casino's are treating some differently than others in the form of allowing big hits or jackpots, then I'd like to say that it's disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. I would also like to note that all of my casino accounts are under the name "Breakingnews". Yes that's BREAKINGNEWS.....*cough* Breakingnews. :icon_twis
 

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Wow, I'm surprised with how some forum members are turning on Nifty, who never breaks any forum rules, or 'flames' other members.



It's 'okay' to start off posts with 'LOL', and use helpful emoticons such as ':rolleyes:' and ':p', belittle other members and their ideas and toss them into the 'tin foil hat' club, 'Thank' from a front-runner's position while calling out others for doing the exact same thing, be condescending in 80% of his/her posts, have major passive-aggressive tendencies, reel people into fights when it's not a green-lit discussion, be given 'carte blanche' to undercut others who may have issues with iNetBet and ClubWorld, but it's NOT okay to flame because that actually breaks a rule. It's not a pseudo rule, BTW.



Those who question Nifty, don't get it. He's a highly educated member who knows exactly how things are. He hasn't actually seen the inner-workings of any operation, but so what, he just knows, because he's wiser for listening to the right people. Literally everyone at this site, will have to eventually agree with Nifty, and if you don't agree with him, you know nothing. He is an absolute Godsend, and I'm extremely thankful that he's here posting each and every day, setting everything right. And even if we all couldn't gamble tomorrow, he'd be okay with that because there are other/better things for him to do. Makes sense.


Other members cause problems, he doesn't, he tries to keep things 'cool'. Please, make the guy a moderator already! He is an ideal candidate! :)
 
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Wow, I'm surprised with how some forum members are turning on Nifty, who never breaks any forum rules, or 'flames' other members.



It's okay to start off posts with 'LOL', and use ':rolleyes:', ':p', belittle other members and their ideas and toss them into the 'tin foil hat' club, 'Thank' from a front-runner's position while calling out others for doing the exact same thing, be condescending in 80% of his/her posts, have major passive-aggressive tendencies, reel people into fights when it's not a green-lit discussion, be given 'carte blanche' to undercut others who may have any issue with iNetBet and ClubWorld, but it's NOT okay to flame because that actually breaks a rule. It's not a pseudo rule, BTW.



Those who question Nifty, don't get it. He's a highly educated member who knows exactly how things are. He hasn't actually seen the inner-workings of any operation, but so what, he just knows, because he's wiser for listening to the right people. Literally everyone at this site, will agree with Nifty, and if you don't agree with him, you know nothing. He is an absolute Godsend, and I'm extremelly thankful that he's here posting each and every day, setting everything right, even though if we all couldn't gamble tomorrow, he'd be okay with that because there are other/better things to do. So, even though he's extremely passionate about all of this, it's no big deal for him if there weren't any more online casinos. Makes sense.


Other members cause problems, he doesn't, he tries to keep things 'cool'. Please, make the guy a moderator already! He is an ideal candidate! :)



Glad to see your still around Mr. johnsteed. Personally, I missed and always thought most of your posts were well written with a strong foundation of facts.
 

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But I am curious to know what a "shill" is. I've been seeing it in different post and understand it from a context point of few (i think). Can anyone explain the term?
From Wikipedia:
A shill, plant or stooge is a person who helps a person or organization without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with that person or organization. Shill typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) that he or she is secretly working for.

That just about sums it up :thumbsup:
IMO Nifty is no shill.

KK
 

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And once again we're starting to veer off the topic with personal attacks and potty-mouth postings.

I don't believe that Rusty is lying, btw and his posts (those without the emotional outbursts :rolleyes:) merit discussion of the sensible type like Cleveland's and Chuchu's.

If you don't like reading what Nifty or anyone else has an opinion about, and are consistently irritated by a particular poster, just use the ignore button.
 

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Thanks folks for disturbing another Sunday with a juvenile meltdown. :rolleyes: I'm quite busy at the moment, but I'll be dealing with this tomorrow when I sign in for work.
 

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Nifty go and shill somewhere else, the only person full of shit around here is you.

How about you get all the reps to post my big wins and cashouts?
How many times have I openly invited audits of my accounts by the software companies?
Why don't you provide some proof you're not a little shill that just trolls every post that tells it the way it is.
I have plenty of proof that says you are.
I'm calling you out you little shit and I'm serious when I say you had better never cross my path out in the big wide real world - I have no time for intellectually vacant little arsewipes like you anymore.
Now go and crawl back under the slimy rock you came out from under you little prick.

Thumbs up!

Totally uncalled for. There is no need to resort to calling someone a little shit or prick no matter how angry you are with them. 30 days account suspended and then 30 days in the moderated user group.

Additionally, those who "thanked" that post should be ashamed - childish mobbing and those members (bAdsmoker, ericlee, kauphy, and LaHutti) have had their "thanking" privileges suspended indefinitely.

Act like a child; get treated like one.

This is a "members'" forum; I try to give everyone room to express your feeling and/or thoughts without having to be a nanny. Sure, some people are going to get on your nerves - that's called life - get used to it.

You can deal with these people however you want; ignore them, or deal with them. But when you deal with them - don't resort to namecalling. That's a fast-track ticket to the banishment zone and no one wants that.

I absolutely hate banning members - but when you call someone a "vacant little arsewipe" "little shit: etc., I have no choice. It's like suicide by cop.

I don't expect everyone to get along or agree with what everyone says. But I do expect people to understand that this is a forum where all opinions are given credence. Resort to namecalling and mobbing will not be tolerated.
 
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