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- May 22, 2012
OK, I have made a table up for 2 RTP's, one at 96% and one at 92%.
Both are based on a deposit of £50 with 100% bonus (£100) or a straight £100 deposit. Whichever you prefer. You start with 100 and play 1.00 per spin in each case. There is NO variance; each spin returns it's RTP i.e. each play you bet 1.00 and get say 0.96 back. (We've all seen RTG slots
)
This is purely to demonstrate the big exponential effects a lower RTP setting can have on gametime and chances of making a WR. Obviously this is exactly how it works out for the casino over a prolonged period of time and zillions of spins on any particular slot. It's quite eye-opening!
@96% xxxxxxxxxxx @92%
£100 start - 100 spins... £100 start - 100 spins...
£100.0 - £96.00 96 spins. £100.0 - £92.00 92 spins
£96.00 - £92.16 92 spins. £92.00 - £84.64 84 spins
£92.16 - £88.47 88 spins. £84.64 - £77.87 78 spins
£88.47 - £84.00 84 spins. £77.87 - £71.64 71 spins
£84.84 - £80.64 81 spins. £71.64 - £65.91 66 spins
£80.64 - £77.41 77 spins. £65.91 - £60.64 60 spins
£77.41 - £74.31 74 spins. £60.64 - £55.79 56 spins
£74.31 - £71.33 71 spins. £55.79 - £51.33 51 spins
£71.33 - £68.47 68 spins. £51.33 - £47.22 47 spins
£68.47 - £65.83 66 spins. £47.22 - £43.44 43 spins
£65.83 - £63.21 63 spins. £43.44 - £39.96 40 spins
£63.21 - £60.68 61 spins. £39.96 - £36.77 37 spins
£60.68 - £58.25 58 spins. £36.77 - £33.83 34 spins
£58.25 - £55.92 56 spins. £33.83 - £31.12 31 spins
£55.92 - £53.68 54 spins. £31.12 - £28.63 29 spins
£53.68 - £51.53 52 spins. £28.63 - £26.34 26 spins
£51.53 - £49.46 49 spins. £26.34 - £24.23 24 spins
£49.46 - £47.48 47 spins. £24.23 - £22.29 22 spins
£47.48 - £45.58 46 spins. £22.29 - £20.51 21 spins
£45.58 - £43.75 44 spins. £20.51 - £18.87 19 spins
£43.75 - £42.00 42 spins. £18.87 - £17.36 17 spins
£42.00 - £40.32 40 spins. £17.36 - £15.97 16 spins
£40.32 - £38.70 39 spins. £15.97 - £14.69 14 spins
£38.70 - £37.15 37 spins. £14.69 - £13.51 13 spins
£37.15 - £35.66 36 spins. £13.51 - £12.43 12 spins
£35.66 - £34.23 34 spins. £12.43 - £11.44 11 spins
£34.23 - £32.86 33 spins. £11.44 - £10.52 11 spins
£32.86 - £31.54 31 spins. £10.52 - £09.67 10 spins
£31.54 - £30.27 30 spins. £09.67 - £08.90 09 spins
£30.27 - £29.05 29 spins. £08.90 - £08.19 08 spins
£29.05 - £27.88 28 spins. £08.19 - £07.53 07 spins
£27.88 - £26.76 27 spins. £07.53 - £06.93 07 spins
£26.76 - £25.69 25 spins. £06.93 - £06.38 06 spins
£25.69 - £24.66 24 spins. £06.38 - £05.87 06 spins
£24.66 - £23.67 23 spins. £05.87 - £05.40 05 spins
£23.67 - £22.72 23 spins. £05.40 - £05.00 05 spins
£22.72 - £21.81 22 spins. £05.00 - £04.60 04 spins
£21.81 - £20.93 21 spins. £04.60 - £04.23 04 spins
£20.93 - £20.09 20 spins. £04.23 - £03.89 03 spins
£20.09 - £19.29 19 spins. £03.89 - £03.58 03 spins
£19.28 - £18.51 18 spins. £03.58 - £03.29 03 spins
£18.51 - £17.76 18 spins. £03.29 - £03.03 03 spins
£17.76 - £17.05 17 spins. £03.03 - £02.79 02 spins
£17.05 - £16.37 16 spins. £02.79 - £02.57 02 spins
£16.37 - £15.71 16 spins. £02.57 - £02.36 02 spins
£15.71 - £15.08 15 spins. £02.36 - £02.17 02 spins
£15.08 - £14.48 14 spins. £02.17 - £02.00 02 spins
£14.48 - £13.90 14 spins. £02.00 - £01.84 01 spins
£13.90 - £13.34 13 spins. £01.84 - £01.69 01 spin
£13.34 - £12.81 13 spins. £01.69 - £01.55 01 spin
£12.81 - £12.30 12 spins. £01.55 - £01.43 01 spin
£12.30 - £11.80 12 spins. £01.43 - £01.32 01 spin
£11.80 - £11.32 11 spins. £01.32 - £01.21 01 spin
£11.32 - £10.87 11 spins. £01.21 - £01.11 01 spin
£10.87 - £10.43 10 spins. £01.11 - £01.02 01 spin
£10.43 - £10.01 10 spins. £01.02 - £0.94 BUST OUT xxxxxxx 1226 spins
£10.01 - £09.61 09 spins.
£09.61 - £09.23 09 spins.
£09.23 - £08.86 08 spins.
£08.86 - £08.50 08 spins.
£08.50 - £08.16 08 spins.
£08.16 - £07.83 07 spins.
£07.83 - £07.51 07 spins.
£07.51 - £07.20 07 spins.
£07.20 - £06.91 06 spins.
£06.91 - £06.63 06 spins.
£06.63 - £06.36 06 spins.
£06.36 - £06.10 06 spins.
£06.10 - £05.85 05 spins.
£05.85 - £05.61 05 spins.
£05.61 - £05.39 05 spins.
£05.39 - £05.17 05 spins.
£05.17 - £04.96 04 spins
£04.96 - £04.76 04 spins.
£04.96 - £04.57 04 spins.
£04.57 - £04.39 04 spins.
£04.38 - £04.21 04 spins.
£04.21 - £04.04 04 spins.
£04.04 - £03.87 03 spins.
£03.87 - £03.71 03 spins
£03.71 - £03.56 03 spins.
£03.56 - £03.41 03 spins.
£03.41 - £03.27 03 spins
£03.27 - £03.14 03 spins.
£03.14 - £03.01 03 spins.
£03.01 - £02.89 02 spins
£02.89 - £02.77 02 spins
£02.77 - £02.66 02 spins.
£02.66 - £02.55 02 spins.
£02.55 - £02.45 02 spins.
£02.45 - £02.35 02 spins
£02.35 - £02.26 02 spins.
£02.26 - £02.17 02 spins
£02.17 - £02.08 02 spins.
£02.08 - £02.00 02 spins.
£02.00 - £01.92 01 spins.
£01.92 - £01.84 01 spin
£01.84 - £01.77 01 spin
£01.77 - £01.70 01 spin
£01.70 - £01.63 01 spin
£01.63 - £01.56 01 spin
£01.56 - £01.50 01 spin
£01.50 - £01.44 01 spin
£01.44 - £01.38 01 spin
£01.38 - £01.32 01 spin
£01.32 - £01.27 01 spin
£01.27 - £01.22 01 spin
£01.22 - £01.17 01 spin.
£01.17 - £01.12 01 spin.
£01.12 - £01.07 01 spin
£01.07 - £01.03 01 spin.
£01.03 - £00.99 BUST OUT xxxxxxxx 2418 spins.
IN OTHER WORDS JUST A 4% REDUCTION IN RTP FROM 96-92 MEANS YOU REDUCE GAME ENDURANCE TO 50.7% OF THE 96% FIGURE.
This explains why Chopley and others have noticed how poor JPP is compared to playing WMS at NordicBet on 4% higher RTP's. It also demonstrates that the JPP
10xD+B WR is not as good as it sounds. Statistically you are far more likely to hit WR on a Microgaming casino with a 30xBonus WR at 96% RTP than the 10xD+B WR at JPP on 92% RTP.
I've done a bit of hard work here, so if any other number crunchers can work out the % chances of hitting various multiple WR's on these 2 demonstrations, then feel free!
It also shows how slots on <90% are so terrible compared to online 96'ers. This includes pub/club slots/pokies and AWP's which can be as low as 72% but usually in the 80's and mechanical casino slots on <92%. Obviously I mention AWP's in the context which doesn't include forcers/humptiers/sharking

Both are based on a deposit of £50 with 100% bonus (£100) or a straight £100 deposit. Whichever you prefer. You start with 100 and play 1.00 per spin in each case. There is NO variance; each spin returns it's RTP i.e. each play you bet 1.00 and get say 0.96 back. (We've all seen RTG slots


This is purely to demonstrate the big exponential effects a lower RTP setting can have on gametime and chances of making a WR. Obviously this is exactly how it works out for the casino over a prolonged period of time and zillions of spins on any particular slot. It's quite eye-opening!
@96% xxxxxxxxxxx @92%
£100 start - 100 spins... £100 start - 100 spins...
£100.0 - £96.00 96 spins. £100.0 - £92.00 92 spins
£96.00 - £92.16 92 spins. £92.00 - £84.64 84 spins
£92.16 - £88.47 88 spins. £84.64 - £77.87 78 spins
£88.47 - £84.00 84 spins. £77.87 - £71.64 71 spins
£84.84 - £80.64 81 spins. £71.64 - £65.91 66 spins
£80.64 - £77.41 77 spins. £65.91 - £60.64 60 spins
£77.41 - £74.31 74 spins. £60.64 - £55.79 56 spins
£74.31 - £71.33 71 spins. £55.79 - £51.33 51 spins
£71.33 - £68.47 68 spins. £51.33 - £47.22 47 spins
£68.47 - £65.83 66 spins. £47.22 - £43.44 43 spins
£65.83 - £63.21 63 spins. £43.44 - £39.96 40 spins
£63.21 - £60.68 61 spins. £39.96 - £36.77 37 spins
£60.68 - £58.25 58 spins. £36.77 - £33.83 34 spins
£58.25 - £55.92 56 spins. £33.83 - £31.12 31 spins
£55.92 - £53.68 54 spins. £31.12 - £28.63 29 spins
£53.68 - £51.53 52 spins. £28.63 - £26.34 26 spins
£51.53 - £49.46 49 spins. £26.34 - £24.23 24 spins
£49.46 - £47.48 47 spins. £24.23 - £22.29 22 spins
£47.48 - £45.58 46 spins. £22.29 - £20.51 21 spins
£45.58 - £43.75 44 spins. £20.51 - £18.87 19 spins
£43.75 - £42.00 42 spins. £18.87 - £17.36 17 spins
£42.00 - £40.32 40 spins. £17.36 - £15.97 16 spins
£40.32 - £38.70 39 spins. £15.97 - £14.69 14 spins
£38.70 - £37.15 37 spins. £14.69 - £13.51 13 spins
£37.15 - £35.66 36 spins. £13.51 - £12.43 12 spins
£35.66 - £34.23 34 spins. £12.43 - £11.44 11 spins
£34.23 - £32.86 33 spins. £11.44 - £10.52 11 spins
£32.86 - £31.54 31 spins. £10.52 - £09.67 10 spins
£31.54 - £30.27 30 spins. £09.67 - £08.90 09 spins
£30.27 - £29.05 29 spins. £08.90 - £08.19 08 spins
£29.05 - £27.88 28 spins. £08.19 - £07.53 07 spins
£27.88 - £26.76 27 spins. £07.53 - £06.93 07 spins
£26.76 - £25.69 25 spins. £06.93 - £06.38 06 spins
£25.69 - £24.66 24 spins. £06.38 - £05.87 06 spins
£24.66 - £23.67 23 spins. £05.87 - £05.40 05 spins
£23.67 - £22.72 23 spins. £05.40 - £05.00 05 spins
£22.72 - £21.81 22 spins. £05.00 - £04.60 04 spins
£21.81 - £20.93 21 spins. £04.60 - £04.23 04 spins
£20.93 - £20.09 20 spins. £04.23 - £03.89 03 spins
£20.09 - £19.29 19 spins. £03.89 - £03.58 03 spins
£19.28 - £18.51 18 spins. £03.58 - £03.29 03 spins
£18.51 - £17.76 18 spins. £03.29 - £03.03 03 spins
£17.76 - £17.05 17 spins. £03.03 - £02.79 02 spins
£17.05 - £16.37 16 spins. £02.79 - £02.57 02 spins
£16.37 - £15.71 16 spins. £02.57 - £02.36 02 spins
£15.71 - £15.08 15 spins. £02.36 - £02.17 02 spins
£15.08 - £14.48 14 spins. £02.17 - £02.00 02 spins
£14.48 - £13.90 14 spins. £02.00 - £01.84 01 spins
£13.90 - £13.34 13 spins. £01.84 - £01.69 01 spin
£13.34 - £12.81 13 spins. £01.69 - £01.55 01 spin
£12.81 - £12.30 12 spins. £01.55 - £01.43 01 spin
£12.30 - £11.80 12 spins. £01.43 - £01.32 01 spin
£11.80 - £11.32 11 spins. £01.32 - £01.21 01 spin
£11.32 - £10.87 11 spins. £01.21 - £01.11 01 spin
£10.87 - £10.43 10 spins. £01.11 - £01.02 01 spin
£10.43 - £10.01 10 spins. £01.02 - £0.94 BUST OUT xxxxxxx 1226 spins
£10.01 - £09.61 09 spins.
£09.61 - £09.23 09 spins.
£09.23 - £08.86 08 spins.
£08.86 - £08.50 08 spins.
£08.50 - £08.16 08 spins.
£08.16 - £07.83 07 spins.
£07.83 - £07.51 07 spins.
£07.51 - £07.20 07 spins.
£07.20 - £06.91 06 spins.
£06.91 - £06.63 06 spins.
£06.63 - £06.36 06 spins.
£06.36 - £06.10 06 spins.
£06.10 - £05.85 05 spins.
£05.85 - £05.61 05 spins.
£05.61 - £05.39 05 spins.
£05.39 - £05.17 05 spins.
£05.17 - £04.96 04 spins
£04.96 - £04.76 04 spins.
£04.96 - £04.57 04 spins.
£04.57 - £04.39 04 spins.
£04.38 - £04.21 04 spins.
£04.21 - £04.04 04 spins.
£04.04 - £03.87 03 spins.
£03.87 - £03.71 03 spins
£03.71 - £03.56 03 spins.
£03.56 - £03.41 03 spins.
£03.41 - £03.27 03 spins
£03.27 - £03.14 03 spins.
£03.14 - £03.01 03 spins.
£03.01 - £02.89 02 spins
£02.89 - £02.77 02 spins
£02.77 - £02.66 02 spins.
£02.66 - £02.55 02 spins.
£02.55 - £02.45 02 spins.
£02.45 - £02.35 02 spins
£02.35 - £02.26 02 spins.
£02.26 - £02.17 02 spins
£02.17 - £02.08 02 spins.
£02.08 - £02.00 02 spins.
£02.00 - £01.92 01 spins.
£01.92 - £01.84 01 spin
£01.84 - £01.77 01 spin
£01.77 - £01.70 01 spin
£01.70 - £01.63 01 spin
£01.63 - £01.56 01 spin
£01.56 - £01.50 01 spin
£01.50 - £01.44 01 spin
£01.44 - £01.38 01 spin
£01.38 - £01.32 01 spin
£01.32 - £01.27 01 spin
£01.27 - £01.22 01 spin
£01.22 - £01.17 01 spin.
£01.17 - £01.12 01 spin.
£01.12 - £01.07 01 spin
£01.07 - £01.03 01 spin.
£01.03 - £00.99 BUST OUT xxxxxxxx 2418 spins.
IN OTHER WORDS JUST A 4% REDUCTION IN RTP FROM 96-92 MEANS YOU REDUCE GAME ENDURANCE TO 50.7% OF THE 96% FIGURE.
This explains why Chopley and others have noticed how poor JPP is compared to playing WMS at NordicBet on 4% higher RTP's. It also demonstrates that the JPP
10xD+B WR is not as good as it sounds. Statistically you are far more likely to hit WR on a Microgaming casino with a 30xBonus WR at 96% RTP than the 10xD+B WR at JPP on 92% RTP.
I've done a bit of hard work here, so if any other number crunchers can work out the % chances of hitting various multiple WR's on these 2 demonstrations, then feel free!
It also shows how slots on <90% are so terrible compared to online 96'ers. This includes pub/club slots/pokies and AWP's which can be as low as 72% but usually in the 80's and mechanical casino slots on <92%. Obviously I mention AWP's in the context which doesn't include forcers/humptiers/sharking


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