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RTG Real Series "Combined Jackpots"...

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Slotster!, Aug 14, 2007.

    Aug 14, 2007
  1. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    Got an email from Club UK:

    "We have combined the Jackpot on six more of our amazing Real Series Video Slots!

    The chance of hitting the Jackpot remains the same, and now it is six time bigger!"




    So they've combined them all to make a big pot that can be hit across any one of the six? I'm not saying this is a bad thing by any means - just an indication of the level of control and 'influence' RTG operators have over their slots! :rolleyes:

    Like I say, seems like a cool thing to do so no complaints with Club UK - just can't imagine this ever happening at an MG or elsewhere... Interesting.
     
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  2. Aug 14, 2007
  3. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account

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    Wait a minute, there's something funky about this statement:

    If the chance of hitting the jackpot remains the same per game, then that means that the jackpot will be hit (on average) six times as frequently - meaning that the average jackpot win will be 1/6th the amount of what it was before.

    However, if the "new" chance of hitting the jackpot across all 6 games combined, is the same as the chances of hitting it on any individual game was before, then the jackpot will be (on average) 6 times bigger but your chances of hitting it are now 1/6th what they used to be.

    So one of the two statements has to be false, unless choice #1 is the correct one and they seed it at 6,000 instead of 1,000 - but then they'd be giving up an extra 5,000 to every jackpot winner - somehow I doubt they would do that, especially 5,000 GBP.
     
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  4. Aug 14, 2007
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Nothing gets past the keen eye of SlotsWizard!

    :notworthy
     
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  6. Aug 14, 2007
  7. reda

    reda Senior Member PABnonaccred

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    maybe ill hit one of them. been playing for a week now and prince of sheerwood is at about 29,000. or so. lost about 300 dollars so far.
     
  8. Aug 14, 2007
  9. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

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    I noticed

    that at LasVegasUSA the rain dance hit on Saturday and again yesterday. It was at 10K on Friday night. Saturday AM is was down to 3k and now its under 2K
     
  10. Aug 15, 2007
  11. clubworld

    clubworld Rogue casino operator

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    Hello all,

    Our intention in making this change to the Real Series Slots was to ensure that the Jackpots grow faster!

    Now the jackpots on these games are grouped into one, it will grow faster as action from all six games contribute to the prize. The chance of hitting the winning combination on each individual game remains the same, so for the same odds of winning you get a faster growing jackpot.

    Currently we have two groups of six games, the jackpot on one is currently well over $29,000 and the other group is almost at $18,000 which is much larger than any of the individual jackpots were at. Also, dont forget that you now have the choice of six different games when you are going for the jackpot instead of being restricted to just one.

    Thank you all for your feedback on this
     
  12. Aug 15, 2007
  13. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Yep, the odds for hitting the Jackpot may be the same at any one of the slots but surely if you hit it right after another player hits it at a different slot, then the payouts are considerably reduced although you are the first to hit at your desginated slot.
     
  14. Aug 15, 2007
  15. Baldy420

    Baldy420 Dormant account

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    Combined

    Was actually quite sad what they did. Their was 6 games that all had Random Jackpots of $10,000+ Goldbeard had the highest at the time which was $21,000. Instead of the 6 games with seperate Random Jackpots totaling over $60,000, they merged it in to 1 pot so when someone hits it they all go back down. Before if someone hit Goldbeard which is now almost at $30K their was still 5 other slots games with monster sized jackpots. They saved them selves a ton of money.
     
  16. Aug 15, 2007
  17. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Quite like the idea myself. Gives you the option of going for a biggie from time to time.
     
  18. Aug 15, 2007
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Depends what they mean by "combined".

    If the 6 games "all had jackpots over 10K", how is it that when combined the jackpot is "around 30K". I would hope that the total was the sum of all 6 at the time of combination, and that funds were NOT removed from the pots during the process.
    I never heard about the OTHER 6 that had the combined Jackpot, when did THIS happen:confused:

    There IS some similarity with MG though, as when they introduced 5 reel versions of some 3 reel progressives, the jackpot was effectively shared between them (could be built, or hit, on either). MG progressives also differ in that play at ALL MG casinos build the jackpots, whereas with RTG these are local in the case of the Real Series games, thus local combination is the only way to get a faster building jackpot when net playthrough has been dented by fallout from UIGEA. The downside is that the shareout is less even now, with only two game group jackpots, instead of 12 individual ones, available to be hit. The best time to play is probably now, straight after the combination, and before the first time it is hit, after this, the EV returns to normal. This is based on the statement that the chance of hitting the RJ per $ spent remains the same, but the pool has suddenly jumped around fivefold due to the combination to a level rarely reached before the individual RJ would be hit.
     
  20. Aug 15, 2007
  21. Kaynos72

    Kaynos72 Dormant account

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    I'd like to know if that change is permanent or if it's just temporary ?
     
  22. Aug 15, 2007
  23. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    I would guess that depends how popular a move it proves, although how that is measured I have no idea. But like most new ideas, if they don't work they often revert.

    It's quite nice aswell because it adds a competitive element that you don't get at MG or elsewhere. Punters have a choice of playing somewhere like iNet where they are lower and individual or at Club World where they are combined.

    For higher rollers in particular, its nice to have a chance at a big payday. A $1500 jackpot playing at $10 isn't overly attractive, where a $20k jackpot is much more inviting.
     
  24. Aug 16, 2007
  25. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    I havent followed this closely. Does betting larger mean that the size of the jackpot you get is larger. Otherwise, the high rollers may feel hard done when they lose out to another player playing 0.20 per spin and getting the jackpot.
     
  26. Aug 16, 2007
  27. kwblue

    kwblue Webmaster webmeister

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    The jackpot remains the same regardless of betsize as I understand it.

    I've also heard that they will 'pick' 6 slots for this combined jackpot and may change the slots to different ones each week for the next 6 weeks. Sounds like a fun promotion to me.
     
  28. Aug 21, 2007
  29. daera

    daera Dormant account

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    Well someone is happy right now because the first Club World Casino combined real series jackpot was hit at $32,297.00 last Friday.

    Nice..

    Congrats to the lucky player!
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2007
  30. Aug 21, 2007
  31. reda

    reda Senior Member PABnonaccred

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    sure wasnt me. when i hit a RJ everyone on the forum will know about it:D
     
  32. Aug 21, 2007
  33. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

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    So I could just set the system to spin with 1cent in the background while I work and still have the same chance of hitting it as if wagering $50 each spin?
     
  34. Aug 22, 2007
  35. Mike031

    Mike031 Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    Certainly, but i think, when you play with only 1 cent bets, then you will be kicked from the casino admin, because this happens at one time to "mikepipe", as i know ;)
     
  36. Aug 22, 2007
  37. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

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    Greedy f**cken bastards! What's the difference if I wager 1cent og 50 dollars, except that the casino will earn lots of money! So he accually was kicked for this play, that sounds insane! Does it say in their desclaimer - players that wager cheap arn't allowed in our casino? Man o man! Greedy greedy!

    It's not like he was occupying a slot so that other people couldn't wager, I would ban that casino in a jiffy! They love us when we loose 1K a night and can throw bonuses at us, but wagering small ain't that fun for them especially since we infact have a chance of winning - and they don't! (that is also false, since the jackpot is building from all wagers, so whatever the size is the casino should be able to cash it out as soon as someone wins - unless they spent the money on something else that is).

    Thanks for the info man! :thumbsup:
     

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