RTG Random Jackpots Anomaly

[Seventh777]

I have only ever deposited at one RTG casino and that was when I was a wet behind the ears online gambling newbie, and needless to say I got burned when it came to payout time, so I have never experienced a random jackpot, but here`s the thing.... It has come to my attention that a high majority of these RJP`s are hit when people are playing a free chip or a max payout deposit chip, so if you are one of those unlucky guys whom has had this misfortune let us know here, also, if you have hit one in the last 6-12 months that you were able to cashout, let us know also .

Thanks in advance.

 

[ergopro]

Hit once at Jackpot Capital with a max cashout.
If I remember it right, only got 500$ of it.
The 2nd one was at Jackpot Capital as well, with a very small deposit and got the entire amount.
But both were over two years ago.

 

[Seventh777]

Hit once at Jackpot Capital with a max cashout.
If I remember it right, only got 500$ of it.
The 2nd one was at Jackpot Capital as well, with a very small deposit and got the entire amount.
But both were over two years ago.

Thanks for replying Ergo, so as it stands early on it`s 50/50.

 

[Larsenne]

Random Jackpot

Hi there.

I have hit a random jackpot at Casino33 (they have closed, but not because of my withdrawal i hope... in July.

I played with a bonus with the withdrawal limit of 1700 $. The real amount of the random jackpot was over 9000 $.

It was hard work to get the money, so I won't miss Casino33. Support was friendly though.

Regards

L'arsenne

 

[Seventh777]

Hi there.

I have hit a random jackpot at Casino33 (they have closed, but not because of my withdrawal i hope... in July.

I played with a bonus with the withdrawal limit of 1700 $. The real amount of the random jackpot was over 9000 $.

It was hard work to get the money, so I won't miss Casino33. Support was friendly though.

Regards

L'arsenne

Thanks for replying L'arsenne , as it stands now is 2 from 3 were restricted payouts.

 

[LHofsdal]

I had hit a RJ for over 3 grand at LuckyRed over a year ago, was able to cashout the whole thing. Last year in October I hit another RJ at LuckyRed for 17 grand. Cashed most of it, had 135 dollars left of the playthrough on a 35 dollar deposit.

Hope this helps.

LH

 

[plasticnote]

I have got RJ many times(>10), all except one I did not get paid full amount.
That was in Lucky Red(CWC), only get 3000$ out of $12000. That sucks.

RJ is really hard to get, most of them I got from $10 or $20 a spin.
RJ to bet ratio is about 200x to 400x. So the payout just like getting a really
good free spin feature.

Nowadays playing big bets on RTG is more or less suicidal.

 

[Glumbi]

I have 2 RJ at the last 1 Year. One at Jackpot Capital $4,5k i could all cashout..

and one from All Star Slots ~ $1,7k all cashed out, i played by all with a Bonus, but no max. Cashout.

 

[anniemac]

Hit 2 at the same casino this year playing on max cashout deposit bonuses so got a good bit but not all of it.

In many years of playing RTG have never hit until then. Does kinda make you want to go Hmmm?

I couldn't buy a RJ at Club World and believe you me, I have tried.

 

[bonustreak]

I know a few players that have hit not only once but twice on randoms with no bonuses so no limits. I just make sure to never play on a bonus and if I am I do not play a random jackpot game so I do not have this issue.

 

[colly]

hit a couple of minors and one for 9K at inetbet=all fully cashable and paid

Cheers

 

[weplant]

I hit one at Aladdins Gold for 5600.00 on a bonus, after playthrough I was able to cash out 4,000.00...This happened in February, my first week of online gambling...Unfortunately it made me beleive this could happen again and I have been chasing one ever since and putting back in a lot more than the 4,000.00 I withdrew...

 

[same_old]

There was a lady about 6 months ago from Australia who won ((5)) jackpots within ONE week- from memory she ended up winning over $30,000 from it.

She wasnt betting big either.

She won it at inetbet if I recall.

she got all of the money- not playing on a bonus.

 

[all4greed]

There was a lady about 6 months ago from Australia who won ((5)) jackpots within ONE week- from memory she ended up winning over $30,000 from it.

She wasnt betting big either.

She won it at inetbet if I recall.

she got all of the money- not playing on a bonus.

That was some interesting reading back then. Think it ended up being around $37,000 and INetBet paid it all fast. Amazing.

The one and only RJ I hit was at All Stars on New Years day 1/1/10 on Greenlight. Paid around $1,600, fully cashable playing with a bonus.

 

[silcnlayc]

same_old There was a lady about 6 months ago from Australia who won ((5)) jackpots within ONE week- from memory she ended up winning over $30,000 from it.

She wasnt betting big either.

She won it at inetbet if I recall.

she got all of the money- not playing on a bonus.

Yep, cleaned out all the Inetbet jackpots. 5 in a week at the same casino by the same person. I have asked about the odds of that.....and never got an answer...some must have felt that , that thread needed to die IMO...

She started with $30 as I remember....

I always felt that was very unkosher and stunk to high heaven....she must have had a BIG star next to her name...or the machine malfunctioned and forgot to remove her star when she hit the first one....I still feel the randoms and mini/major jackpots are not random at all...that they are given out in a systematic way, some criteria that needs to be met, otherwise, everyone would have hit one of those at least once in any given time...because that would be random...


Put 1000 people in a room, spin the bottle 5 times and tell me the odds of the bottle stopping on the same person all 5 times by itself with out any help. It would NEVER happen because the bottle would RANDOMLY stop on the same person maybe , if they are lucky that ONE time.

I do understand some have hit multiple randoms, but were they in the same week at the same casino???

That was one of the reasons I quit playing RTG's as much..I dabble now and then, but do not trust them enough to really play there anymore except for a small handful you can count on half a hand. Even then, I went from a mid four figure depositor a month to maybe a low 2 figure ($70-80) a month. Huge losses for the casinos..but great savings for me...Maybe since Dogboy is back, he would like to give his opinion on this.


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[Diane]

Well, here is the "Diane" story. All true, though it may seem incredible and hard to believe.

I have been playing online slots since October 2009. I have hit 11 random jackpots during that time and ALL were fully cashable, largest was $19k.

On one incredible run with CWC during course of 6-7 hours I ran my balance up to $60,000 kept playing at maximum bet ($250) and hit two random jackpots on the same afternoon, same game (Big Shot) and got to peak amount of $80,000. Started at $2.00 per spin, kept increasing it as I won and then had incredible time at max. bet.

IMO, the higher you bet the greater the chance of hitting a RTG random jackpot.

I just wish I could do close to that again..........

Diane

 

[silcnlayc]

Diane:
I have been playing online slots since October 2009.

A newbie...one of the criteria for winning the randoms...

Nice to know I am not so off base on this. I posted a long while back about newbies and randoms...within the first six months , newbies will win a multiple amount of randoms due to the casinos settings of "stars"...

Congrats...

Diane: IMO, the higher you bet the greater the chance of hitting a RTG random jackpot.

Never believed this....why? Because I used to bet high for very long periods...and nothing ever popped in real mode OR FUN mode ...so this theory is not a valid one either IMO...since one can bet as high as one wants in fun mode.for as long as one wants and play as many games as one wants..the odds would be one would catch a few...nope...not in this lifetime...so..this is why I do not believe that theory either..

My belief from my experiences is still with meeting a "criteria" for winning randoms..and you were lucky enough to have met one of them, which was being a newbie..


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[Nifty29]

A newbie...one of the criteria for winning the randoms...

Nice to know I am not so off base on this. I posted a long while back about newbies and randoms...within the first six months , newbies will win a multiple amount of randoms due to the casinos settings of "stars".

Wow I didn't know about that. Amazing.

Can you please share the data you have collected as I know others would be interested too.

Yep, cleaned out all the Inetbet jackpots. 5 in a week at the same casino by the same person. I have asked about the odds of that.....and never got an answer...some must have felt that , that thread needed to die IMO...

She started with $30 as I remember....

I believe Inetbet and RTG pressured Bryan into making that thread die. I'm sure he was paid a healthy commission.

I always felt that was very unkosher and stunk to high heaven....she must have had a BIG star next to her name...or the machine malfunctioned and forgot to remove her star when she hit the first one....I still feel the randoms and mini/major jackpots are not random at all...that they are given out in a systematic way, some criteria that needs to be met, otherwise, everyone would have hit one of those at least once in any given time...because that would be random...

First you say that it should be random, and next you say that everyone should hit one in a given timeframe.

Looks like the exact opposite of 'random' to me.

You are also overlooking that the only 'random' part of the Random Jackpots is the amount at which they go off - the chances of you being the person who hits it is influenced by bet size.

I would bet if you could get the stats for RJ's for the past 6 months from some RTG casinos, with the amount and bet size indicated, it would show that the majority are won with large bets ($5+). Players who hit them with .20c bets are just very lucky, and possibly were the only ones playing that slot at that time. Could someone do it 5 times in a week? Well if they played pretty much non-stop and made large bets then yes - remember that lady started with $30 but from memory hit the other randoms on big bets.

Put 1000 people in a room, spin the bottle 5 times and tell me the odds of the bottle stopping on the same person all 5 times by itself with out any help. It would NEVER happen because the bottle would RANDOMLY stop on the same person maybe , if they are lucky that ONE time.

This example is not even close to reality.

Something a bit closer (but still not correct) would be if there were 5000 spots around the circle, and the bottle was idle....then, at any time, day or night, the bottle will spin and only those who are still in the circle can win (considering people will leave to eat, sleep, poop, work, etc etc)...but added to that, some people will occupy 500 spots in the circle (big bettors) and some will only get 10. Jeez I'm confuzzled now...anyway you get the picture.

Winning a RJ involves a LOT of luck. You need to be at the right place at the right time to begin with, then you have to be lucky enough to win the 'lucky ticket draw' to get the actual RJ when others may have 10 times the amount of tickets that you have in the 'barrel'. You have to be there at the exact second it goes off. When you imagine how long (in seconds) an Rj takes to build up on average, you can see just how unlikely it is for a small bettor to win it.

I have won ONE RJ since they were introduced, and I play RTG a lot. I am fortunate enough to be ahead more than I am behind without any more of them, but I don't feel 'cheated' or that there is any 'special system' in place to allow the operator to choose who can win them.

I went from a mid four figure depositor a month to maybe a low 2 figure ($70-80) a month.

See, this is where you are kinda arguing against yourself.

You were a big depositor, but you say that the casino has a system to avoid paying RJs to big depositors like yourself in favor of newbies who might not even hang around and who play .20c spins? Any casino that had that system they would be out of business in a month.

Why would the casino be happy to forego your $xxxx a month, when they could 'throw' you the odd RJ to keep you happy? The answer is they don't because they can't.

If you really seriously believe the stuff you post, then the fact that you keep depositing there just makes your arguments and theories less and less credible. The other result is that it makes you look stupid, but I don't believe that to be the case as you do make intelligent arguments on other occasions - just not this one.

 

[aceking123]

hi i think 5 randoms was done by jubbluck if memory is right

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Random Jackpotgs are really only worthwhile to the low roller anyway.

Barring Rj`s that in some casinos get to ridiculously high amounts such as rushmore for example, i think MOST rj`s are won around the 2-4 k mark and lets face it as someone has already mentioned, a high roller winning one of them is just like them getting a nice free spin round. Its nothing special. A low roller winning one jumps for joy.

The fact that most casinos rely on the bread and butter of countless low rollers as opposed to the odd high roller, in my opinion rj`s should have the same chance of being won REGARDLESS of bet size and i think personally this is where RTG fail.

Im not a high roller by means but having said that i used to deposit 5 or 6 times a week 50 at a time usually in certain RTG`s and i have now knocked that on the head.

One of the greatest allures for me for anyone I imagine is the hope of hitting one of those rg`s but fact of the matter is it simply DOESNT happen (for most) (years and years of playing has shown me this) Result? RTG casinos now rarely get my money and i have reverted to how i started - back to good old MG

 

[DogBoy001]

...in my opinion rj`s should have the same chance of being won REGARDLESS of bet size and i think personally this is where RTG fail.

Random jackpots have been discussed several times in the past on this forum, and if anyone is really interested in the subject they should look up my previous posts on the matter.

In summary, yes, the chance is proportional to the amount wagered.

Audi, it would not be possible to have a game function as you specify (not referenced to bet size), as otherwise RTP from the jackpot would not be consistent (one sort of player would be getting a higher RTP than another sort of player).

e.g.:
A player bets $1, and has a 1 in 100,000 chance of hitting a jackpot with an average size of $1,000 (for ease of example).
The jackpot consumes an average of 1% of RTP

A player bets $0.01 (1 cent), and has a 1 in 100,000 chance of hitting a jackpot with an average size of $1,000 (for ease of example).
The jackpot consumes an average of 100% of RTP

Woooof

 

[Balky]

I hit a RJ of 4 K on a free chip in Lucky Red (max cashout 250) and a RJ on Lock Casino 1,5 K which was paid in full within one day.

B.

 

[silcnlayc]

Nifty29: Can you please share the data you have collected as I know others would be interested too.

Sure can...read up on it on the forum just as I have including Inetbet's quote on newbies and randoms...guess you missed that one huh?

Nifty29: makes you look stupid

Back to backhanded name calling again I see....ahhhh Nifty....I once again choose not to play your games and stay in the sandbox with you...

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[chuchu59]

i got one in noveber at inet. it was only 1k but inet allows rjs to be hitwith no max cashout even with bonuses. it was a 50% bonus and the deposit was only $10 if i recall correctly.

 

[colly]

In summary, yes, the chance is proportional to the amount wagered.

Audi, it would not be possible to have a game function as you specify (not referenced to bet size), as otherwise RTP from the jackpot would not be consistent (one sort of player would be getting a higher RTP than another sort of player).

Woooof

Just a quick query Dogboy- I was under the impression that RTP calculation was done after excluding random jackpots and progressives- or is it only system wide progressives that are excluded- Your comments imply that this is not the case- can you clarify.

Cheers Colly-(OK collies can wooof too so Wooof)