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RTG Penalizes(?) those who play less than max lines

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by winbig, Jul 28, 2010.

    Jul 28, 2010
  1. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    ...with their new game "Fruit Bowl"

    So tell me, why in the world would they create a new game that doesn't give off a feature unless you're playing max lines? Is there something to playing as few lines as possible on RTG slots that they're not telling us? Something that they can't fix without having to do a total re-design? :rolleyes:

    I mean, what's the big deal? If you're playing .10 a line @ 5 lines, you're betting 50c a round. Say the rules were different and you hit the "win win bonus feature" for 100x. You're getting paid $50. And if you were spinning for 2c a line @ 25 lines, your bet is that same 50c a spin. Then you hit the same win-win feature for 100x. You win $50.

    What's the big #)@* deal here?

    The only thing that I can see is that the higher lines (say 10-20+) aren't programmed to hit as often as lines 1-9, and they're doing their best to "make" us play max lines. You know what I say to that? I won't play the new game. Plain and simple. :)
     
  2. Jul 28, 2010
  3. zap987

    zap987 Meister Member PABnononaccred2

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    If you play fewer lines you are more likely to end up hitting nothing on the freespins, just imagine your example with $0.50 on 1 line, a lot of features would end up hitting nothing and then pay the max 250x bet for no wins. The RTP of that would probably break 200%.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2010
  5. elscrabinda

    elscrabinda Experienced Member PABnorogue PABnoaccred

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    I thought that the vast majority of slots ever, penalise you if you don't play max lines? Or maybe thats just max coins
     
  6. Jul 28, 2010
  7. iNetBet Promos

    iNetBet Promos Accredited Casino Representative

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    Hi all,

    I am not sure exactly for the max lines requirement. However I think zap987 is correct with their suggested reason for this being in place.

    Also this is not something new that has been added. All win-win features work like this. It is not a re-design, this feature have always been structured like this. For example Triple Twister, Hockey Hero etc are all the same. The win-win feature can only trigger if you are playing all lines.

    Best Regards
    iNetBet Promos
     
  8. Jul 28, 2010
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Well spotted. I am pretty sure this is the answer. Advantage players would have this slot for breakfast in no time by doing exactly that (1 line instead of many), and get most of their return from the bonus feature. Perhaps the programming of this feature does not take into account a weighting for the number of lines played.

    There is another game where there can be an advantage in playing fewer lines if you are using a large bonus, because of how the bonus feature works. In this case, the variance is raised by playing fewer lines, BUT this amplifies the value of the bonus feature, and when triggered, it can make it easier to surge well ahead, and then make WR with a profit. It works particularly well because of the phantom nature of RTG bonuses.
     
  10. Jul 29, 2010
  11. elscrabinda

    elscrabinda Experienced Member PABnorogue PABnoaccred

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    Care to elaborate on which game?
     
  12. Jul 29, 2010
  13. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

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    EDIT:

    I might have been wrong about this one.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2010
  14. Jul 29, 2010
  15. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    F**** F****y ;)
     
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  16. Jul 29, 2010
  17. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    No, you weren't wrong.
    But what you MUST remember is the bonus is triggered by getting 5oak on a win-line, not by scatters.
    Playing 1 line @ $1/line - hit the feature & get spins worth $25/spin.
    Playing 25 lines @ $1/line - hit the feature & get spins worth $25/spin... but the chances of hitting this are 25 x the above.

    i.e. It makes no difference at all to the overall RTP.

    KK
     

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