RTG List

[The Dude]

I've created a list of RTG casinos so that if and/or when some player has an issue with them they have some recourse. I've put this together since Hastings is not valid, in my opinion.

https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-software/rtg/

There are several categories that they fall under:

Accredited
Good to go
Proceed with Care
Proceed with Caution
Rogued

Please note this is a guide.

Hopefully I've gotten most of the RTGs. If I've missed any, please let me know here.

 

[Rusty]

I have been getting spam from connect2 Casino (RTG) who offer 2000% deposit bonuses amongst others.
It is quite possible to deposit 100 and be limited to a maximum withdrawal of 120 when all WR are met!
Should be rogued for this alone in my view.
Many thanks meister invaluable info.

 

[cynthial]

I play at two of the ones that are "proceed with caution", and I do follow this advice. I have never been stiffed by either of them and have withdrawn many, many times. It may just be that I am scrubbed in sunshine and my comeupance is coming but I have to say that the managers at both sites (Chris and Victoria) have always been straight forward and helpful to me.
Just my two centavos.

 

[aka23]

That's a very useful and necessary list, given the current RTG situation.

Hopefully I've gotten most of the RTGs. If I've missed any, please let me know here.

Some missing ones are Bet Game Day, Betinternet.com, Ho Casino (Is their download RTG still open?), Interwetten (New download casino is RTG), Spectra Games (Are they a King Solomon's division?, have identical payout stats and bonus codes), Venezia Club, Wild Vegas Casino

 

[KasinoKing]

Nice work! :notworthy

Just a couple of observations:
What's the difference between Proceed with Care & Proceed with Caution?

You flag Magic Oasis & Portofino as above, but as they are now part of the Geisha Lounge group, should they not be Accredited, or at least, Good to go?

 

[sdaddy]

That's a very useful and necessary list, given the current RTG situation.
Some missing ones are Bet Game Day...

BetGameday is under the same ownership as VIP Sports, so I assume it would get the same rating.

Edit: I should amend this statement in light of other info. Although a mod over at RX Forums stated once that they're both under the same company, I see that Sportbookreview.com has a slightly lower rating for Gameday compared with VIP. That leads me to think that their operations are somewhat separate, and VIP's rating wouldn't necessarily translate to Gameday.

 

[Mike031]

What is the problem with "Breakaway" and "Sci-Fi" Casino, because i've played both of them last week and get the 300% and 250% bonus and by all two casinos i fullfilled the wagering requirement and could pay out by them more, as i deposited and this without any problems.

Breakaway need no faxbackform from me, because i've deposited with moneybookers and withdraw it also with them, so they don't needed this.

but maybe i had only luck with them?

 

[The Dude]

Just a couple of observations:
What's the difference between Proceed with Care & Proceed with Caution?

Again this is only a guideline that I hope can assist members to make an intelligent choice on picking an RTG casino.

Good to go - Either they are accredited or they pretty much meet the standard. Just because they are not listed here doesn't mean that they aren't in an "Accredited" league.

Proceed with care - not accredited but closely meet the standard, either by having active forum representatives, or they have an okay history of fairness. The reason you ought to "proceed with care" is that you just never know if this might change. You may have to rely on obscure entities like "Hastings" or whatever to resolve any problems. Some casinos may closely meet Casinomeister "Accredited" standards, but they have not been officially sanctioned. For instance, the additional Geisha Lounge casinos; my agreement was with the three original casinos. We never crossed the bridge to bring the others on.

Proceed with Caution. Casino has a crappy history, is on the verge of roguedom, has no casino rep in the forum, etc. In other words, there is no safety-net if you fall. You are pretty much on your own here dealing with these guys. Welcome to Dodge City.

I don't need to explain the "rogued" category.

Hope this helps.

 

[The Dude]

What is the problem with "Breakaway" and "Sci-Fi" Casino...?

There really is no problem. They have a casino rep who seems to be active in the forum. There is a point of contact you can get a hold of. You have one and so do I.

Proceed with care.

 

[lojo]

RTG terms:

Thanks CM for emphasizing reading the terms. If this needs moved, please do.


I want to play some RTG slots. I like them. For the most part it hardly seems worth reading through the mazes, but some houses seem upfront. Just not sure if I'm reading them right (too much work, not enough sleep and little gaming make lojo a dull boy)

I'm reading these wrong or they're not for players like me.

Vegas Casino Online: Deposit, without a bonus, must be played through 5x before cashing out.

Bodog: 'Automatic' 10% bonus on first deposit - with required playthrough requirements for deposit and bonus.

Haven't looked at VIP or or Inetbet deeply enough yet, any experiences?

If I'm understanding this, and it is the trend, I don't really like it. Again, I'm tired and working from memory on VCO and bodog, so members, please enlighten me.

Sometimes (mostly) I just wanna 'walk in' and lay my money down. If I'm reading this stuff right it's either a way to capitalize (extract $ revenge) from first time players, or the subsidizing of bonuses has become so transparent that we can see it.
I would hate to think it's a matter of 'ripping the other guy off to pass the savings on to you', loyal players.

I'm starting to think that some casinos should offer a 'tier' for folks who just want to deal with the EV - with a seperate accounting department, auditing, etc. (why should I have to achieve a VIP level to do this?)

Any and all feedback is most appreciated.

lojo
.~

 

[mikepipe]

make it easy, play inetbet.

doesnt work?

VIP

doesnt work?

bodog or Clubworld

dont take a bonus, just play (and dont forget the faxbackform once)

They will pay, if you win.

thats all - - - if you want it simple.

 

[lojo]

make it easy,... if you want it simple.

Thanks! I want it simple.

 

[chuchu59]

Just for the records. Windows is now using playtech software and they give nice ND bonuses to old customers to try this out. I got $300 but busted out.

 

[Mike031]

@lojo, i can swear you, that at inetbet and 49er casino, you must not wagering your balance 5 times and also not 1 time, because i play there now for a half year and have also make some withdrawals, but i've made sometimes not more as 20-30 spins, to get my 1st bonus round, with a good win and then i transered it back to my moneybookers account without any problems, so you can be sure, that you have not to fullfill any unseriously wagering requirements!
Also a good option is, that they have no payout limits like another RTGs, where you can only payout $ 5.000.- a month (that's not good, if you win a jackpot or anything else!) or by the bonus money you can only payout 5 times your deposit and so on...
That's why i'll play only on inetbet and 49er casino

 

[KasinoKing]

Just for the records. Windows is now using playtech software and they give nice ND bonuses to old customers to try this out. I got $300 but busted out.

Just for the record, I thought that sounded too good too be true so checked it out...
I found this slightly important term in their T&C's:

Any winnings generated from the bonus or the bonus itself may never be cashed in.

Errrrr.... WTF???

What's the difference between that & 'fun mode' then?
What if you used the free-bonus-that-isn't on a progressive & hit the jackpot...

I find it incredible that the well respected Wager Junction group could have such a ridiculous offer.
What are you playing at guys?

 

[Mike031]

Any winnings generated from the bonus or the bonus itself may never be cashed in

*lol*

what sin does this bonus have, when you can't use it for winning some real money?

 

[tennis_balls]

does this mean that winnings generated from the winnings generated from the bonus are ok?

 

[chuchu59]

Just for the record, I thought that sounded too good too be true so checked it out...
I found this slightly important term in their T&C's:

Errrrr.... WTF???

What's the difference between that & 'fun mode' then?
What if you used the free-bonus-that-isn't on a progressive & hit the jackpot...

I find it incredible that the well respected Wager Junction group could have such a ridiculous offer.
What are you playing at guys?

Ahh! The difference is that you gain comp points in real mode but not in fun mode. Seriously, though, I think that it was just a slip up as it was stated in the attached Ts and Cs that a maximum of 10x the bonus can be cashed out subject to a 60x WR. The bonus, as in most playtechs, are not cashable.

Now what Wager Junction should do is amend the Ts and Cs and probably give $100 ND bonuses to both KK, Tennis Balls and Mike 031 to indicate that the winnings from bonuses are cashable. Agreed guys?

 

[KasinoKing]

Ahh! The difference is that you gain comp points in real mode but not in fun mode. Seriously, though, I think that it was just a slip up as it was stated in the attached Ts and Cs that a maximum of 10x the bonus can be cashed out subject to a 60x WR. The bonus, as in most playtechs, are not cashable.

Now what Wager Junction should do is amend the Ts and Cs and probably give $100 ND bonuses to both KK, Tennis Balls and Mike 031 to indicate that the winnings from bonuses are cashable. Agreed guys?

It would be a nice gesture - but with WR x60 they can poke it!
(Even I would rather play in fun mode! )

 

[Mike031]

but with WR x60 they can poke it!
(Even I would rather play in fun mode! )

*lol*

that's nearly so bad as on 888 casino on net, where you have to wager your deposit & bonus 200 (two hundred) times, if you make the deposit with moneybookers!

 

[mikepipe]

Thanks! I want it simple.

 

[The Dude]

Admin Note:

I moved the slots discussion to its own thread
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/rtg-slots.17230/

This one is about the casinos...

 

[CasinoForumu]

I am happy to see that Lucky Pyramid Casino is in rogued list.

I have never heard them, so never registered and played. But I received some promotion materials from them to my work place. It means they found or bought my details from somewhere. Email is ok, but why workplace?

 

[And]

I've been exchaning PMs with "GrandAcesGeisha" but suddenly he's no longer listed at casino contacts and cannot be PMed.
Anyone can shed some light?

 

[Mike031]

But you can contact him about MSN: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/