RTG casinos...heed the complaints....or be left behind!

silcnlayc

Just one more spin pleez!
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I would like to say, I am very happy with my choices lately and that was weeding out many of the RTG casinos. They were once the cream of the crop to play at, in the same league as Intercasino and a few others that banned USA players.

Now they have become (IMO) the leeches of gaming. Sucking the blood out of players because they can knowingly without any competition to fight against at this time.

There will come a time soon, that other platforms (casinos) will be allowed to offer their services again to USA players and we, as players, do not forget how we have been treated and how these games have been changed to hurt us during this time of transitioning.

RTG casinos will be the last casino anyone will play at once the doors open again and the doors will open again.

It is not still too late to get the games back on track, because some players have not finally closed their accounts but the ones that have closed their accounts, it will be hard to woo them back once we get a taste of other platforms that give us our monies worth.

I guess the tightening had to happen even more so, since so many have been closing out their accounts, so those that still play them, please be careful. They will need to make lots more money before the tide turns and other casinos enter the arena during the new gaming era comes in to play for RTG knows, they will have some stiff competition soon and are filling their pockets now before it happens.
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GGW Laurie

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I would like to say, I am very happy with my choices lately and that was weeding out many of the RTG casinos. They were once the cream of the crop to play at, in the same league as Intercasino and a few others that banned USA players.

Now they have become (IMO) the leeches of gaming. Sucking the blood out of players because they can knowingly without any competition to fight against at this time.

There will come a time soon, that other platforms (casinos) will be allowed to offer their services again to USA players and we, as players, do not forget how we have been treated and how these games have been changed to hurt us during this time of transitioning.

RTG casinos will be the last casino anyone will play at once the doors open again and the doors will open again.

It is not still too late to get the games back on track, because some players have not finally closed their accounts but the ones that have closed their accounts, it will be hard to woo them back once we get a taste of other platforms that give us our monies worth.

I guess the tightening had to happen even more so, since so many have been closing out their accounts, so those that still play them, please be careful. They will need to make lots more money before the tide turns and other casinos enter the arena during the new gaming era comes in to play for RTG knows, they will have some stiff competition soon and are filling their pockets now before it happens.
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Great post:thumbsup: I tend to agree, but we need to include all other platforms that have left our fellow gamers around the globe out in the cold , example: Canada.(Rival) I cant recall the one that just banned our Aussie friends?

Theres going to be alot of wooing imo to make up to those that have been kicked to the curb , they all need a big wake up call.

I have to admit, R.T.G has stood by the American market of players and may have become comfy to the fact that we dont have that many places to play at...........Wrong!!!!!!!!!! I think to many of them, just not R.T.G are getting a little to comfy on my computer screen, but then im the one that invited them into my home.

laurie:)
 

chuchu59

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Oh c'mon Silc, these slots are great. You usually get some features in about 200-300 spins and occasionally 500-600 spins. They pay a whopping 5x - 10x of your bet. I think I am going to hit soon. I have only gone 230 spins at Diamond Dozen as I type. During weekends, to kill time I deposit $20-$25 at the casino that gives me the biggest bonus so that I can be sure that I will hit a feature or 2. During the week I made 3 $10 deposits with different % match bonuses and played at $0.2 per spins at Warlock's Spell. Didnt count the number of spins but not a single feature. Maybe next time I will start to play in fun mode. At least they give me $1000 to start with.

Meanwhile nice to see Johnsteed coming here. Havent seen you posting for ages pal.
 

amatrine

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They have been bad. Pick em poker the last $150 I spent playing it last month on nickles, not one 4oak. Not one free spin on slots yesterday. It took me a week to get the money play , finally play and gone in 10 min. No spins no 4 of a kinds, no win of any kind. It really sucks. 80 bucks gave me 30 cents on my comps, oh boy!

Yeah I agree, they need to fix the games to where they used to be!
I used to play a lot of money, and casinos they I play at know I do not play the amount I used to. There is a reason. The fun has been taken away.
When I have a session like yesterday every time, I tend to not play for a few months. I try later, and it has only got worse! Want people to play again? Make it worth playing again!
 

gloria460

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rtg

You know I took a hard look at the post about inviting them into our homes and dumping one deposit after another, week after week.

Since I won money at rival and rtg it feels like I'm just being played with lately. I have no problem hitting bonus rounds but they don't pay jack..it pretty much doesn't matter how low or how high you go it doesn't pay..I believe they're trying to get their moolah back:Dand as much as I like playing online it's time for these to go

If I feel like I being treated fairly I'll be a customer for life. Probably next week I'll download a few and see what they do. I'll keep doing that until I feel they're fair to me or I'll just freaking wait on Barney;)
 

Boris303

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London
Yep, i treat RTG at arms length these days, i have wasted too much money trying to hit something that just isn't there.

To me, it just feels like there are good and bad days to play at a RTG casino, and the thing is there are a lot of bad days, so if you are unlucky enough to deposit enough and not win you end up feeling like most of us in this post, i for one deposited $1000's at Club World and decided enough was enough, and as was said already you end up feeling like your being played.

The thing is in my opinion RTG and Rival for that matter are way too streaky with their wins.

Being from the UK im lucky enough to be able to play pretty much anywhere, but to all those of you that do have restrictions on where you can play you do have my sympathy.
 

3cardpoker

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Atlanta
I wouldn't touch RTG with a 10 foot pole. They are money suckers. Please remember we are in a recession. The casinos are also feeling the heat. They must make up for the lack of depositers and setting lower limits is their answer. Casino Operators are liars. They know they can tell you anything and get away with it. Don't take their word for it. If you are truely tired and done. Leave it alone. Not for a few days or weeks. Leave RTG alone for good. I have and never went back. Also gambling is NOT for the POOR. If you only depositing for the entertainment then fine. But if you are looking for cashouts on small deposits. Well you gonna stay mad most of the time. I tend to deposit a min of $500 to $1000. And enjoy bets of $5 or more. I know its seems like alot for one spin on slots each time. But a typical bonus round will pay off well enough to keep you going or give you a nice profit to cashout on. Not trying to be cruel of funny. But those who are depositing $20, $50, or even $100 are just doing so for entertainment, and shouldn't expect anything more. I know most people can't afford to deposit large sum. But as I said gambling is NOT for the POOR!
 

Rusty

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The truth is the truth but as Laurie says it is not just RTG.
MG slots are so different now to how they used to play as well.

As far as I am concerned all the software is weighted so basically it comes down to where you get your monies worth and which software you enjoy.

The argument that slots are unweighted and completely random died with the US market - it is that obvious.
 

gokkie

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TOC, first many congratulations on winning at RTG!
Only a few deposits and such wins, amazing. :thumbsup:

I have however not been so fortunate lately.

I have won on numerous occassions (just check the winner screenshots) and I will be the first to share my winnings here..

However when bad times start at RTG it can get really ugly:

I have now lost 40 plus deposits straight. Also play time was minimal.
I have asked for game logs and during these 40 deposits and close to 10000 spins at 1$ p/spin my payout percentage was 75%.

I had 10 or more occassions in which I did not get a free spins feature for over 300 spins. Almost 95% of the time the feature paid the minimum of 5x-10x bet.

I know this is still a relative small sample size but still it sucks big time when this happens.

Above example is from two casino's so it does not matter at which RTG casino you play.

After this I think I have a relative easy decision to make and that is to quit playing RTG. The games itself are great and you can win big.
However the bad streaks are far more common and what should be fun (reason I play) then turns into frustration.

In that case I can think of a LOT of other fun things to do with my time which also are a LOT cheaper ;)
 

Boris303

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TOC, first many congratulations on winning at RTG!
Only a few deposits and such wins, amazing. :thumbsup:

I have however not been so fortunate lately.

I have won on numerous occassions (just check the winner screenshots) and I will be the first to share my winnings here..

However when bad times start at RTG it can get really ugly:

I have now lost 40 plus deposits straight. Also play time was minimal.
I have asked for game logs and during these 40 deposits and close to 10000 spins at 1$ p/spin my payout percentage was 75%.

I had 10 or more occassions in which I did not get a free spins feature for over 300 spins. Almost 95% of the time the feature paid the minimum of 5x-10x bet.

I know this is still a relative small sample size but still it sucks big time when this happens.

Above example is from two casino's so it does not matter at which RTG casino you play.

After this I think I have a relative easy decision to make and that is to quit playing RTG. The games itself are great and you can win big.
However the bad streaks are far more common and what should be fun (reason I play) then turns into frustration.

In that case I can think of a LOT of other fun things to do with my time which also are a LOT cheaper ;)
As my good friend always used to say "If your digging yourself a hole! STOP DIGGING.!"
 

secret2

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I used to love playing RTG..

..but now it sucks the fun and money out of playing any RTG. I closed my accounts with Slots Oasis, Cherry Red ( I did win a RJ there a while back ...but they all seem to suck, since they 'updated')and will close Inetbet, especially after this weekend.
Just when I think I'm gonna hit a good pay-out the spin wheel 'jolts' and I miss it. The bonus idol just is a 'blocker' to stop you winning anything...the endless sound of that one 'idol' in 'Aztec Treasure' hitting the same spot, same reel is so annoying and I just sat at my 'puter with one hand holding my head up , because it was soooooo annoying and draining :eek2::what: (Happy little poster, aren't I :) )

I am a USA player, too and as Silcnlayc said...cannot wait for more casino doors to open here.

I am returning to playing at Tournamentgames.com for now, so that I can have a thrill (playing games ;) ) without losing too much money.

Yes, I think they should take note and see that we will have more options and won't have to be almost tied to these RTG's.

Thank-you Silcnlayc for starting this thread.
 

Pinababy69

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Post #10 in case you missed it.
I did...completely. Thanks for pointing it out. I had not even read this thread in a couple of days or maybe more. Maybe TOC should just not read, or skim these threads. It works much better than getting worked up about it, or being rude. At least it works for me...always learning.
 

BillyCubed

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You know, it is our fervent hope, our plan, to be the ONE US facing RTG casino that IS fair, is reasonable, is worth playing at. Some others seem to be doing a decent job of taking care of their customers generally as well, cherry red in particular....

We've been working with RTG software for years, really, and statistically, it seems to stack up as well as or better for players then anything else we've seen from an operators' perspective. For players, the wins may be further apart perhaps, but we think generally BIGGER. So totally understand the prejudice against the platform, esp. in some of their choices for operators, and at the end of the day it IS of course your choice.

But we wanted, as Americans, a top 5 casino platform to offer our bingo players and other fellow North Americans--for a platform, RTG is the best in our opinion. As far as we're aware, there are no "suckout" modes, no differentiation based on wager amounts beyond what ANY slot machine online or offline has; it's really truly random guys! in our short life we have seen players with very small starting bets ride up to HUGE payouts on the slots. trick is when you're playing with the house money is to risk it, it seems....

Anyways, we're here, just about done settling in (no flash games yet, after those are in and tested it's the end of the soft period--but hope we NEVER stop learning!) and after our true baptism by fire here, hope we continue to stand up as an RTG who will do their damnedest to be fair and honest with you.

If you never want to touch an RTG again, fair enough, can see your point. But if you care to try a casino running on RTG that wants to be fair, honest, responsive, we're here. Guarantee: we will not always get it right--but we will always work to set it right.

Best!

Billy
 

silcnlayc

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Me: They were once the cream of the crop to play at, in the same league as Intercasino and a few others that banned USA players.
If you never want to touch an RTG again, fair enough, can see your point.
I have always loved playing at the RTG's, that is what I started on when I first found online gaming many, many years ago. As I stated above, RTG WAS great, and fair for many years...it has only been in the last year to year and half that I felt changes were being made without notice...again ,only my opinion.

I will return to them full force once they have some competition because I do like their games and always have. I just do not like donating at this time which it feels like to me (JMO) when they have the run of the mill...rule the roost...do what they want attitude..... Hopefully it will open up to the USA market soon and we can once again get gair play out of them ...again, jmo...(just my opinion)

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slotheadlizard

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Billy

You know, it is our fervent hope, our plan, to be the ONE US facing RTG casino that IS fair, is reasonable, is worth playing at. Some others seem to be doing a decent job of taking care of their customers generally as well, cherry red in particular....

We've been working with RTG software for years, really, and statistically, it seems to stack up as well as or better for players then anything else we've seen from an operators' perspective. For players, the wins may be further apart perhaps, but we think generally BIGGER. So totally understand the prejudice against the platform, esp. in some of their choices for operators, and at the end of the day it IS of course your choice.

But we wanted, as Americans, a top 5 casino platform to offer our bingo players and other fellow North Americans--for a platform, RTG is the best in our opinion. As far as we're aware, there are no "suckout" modes, no differentiation based on wager amounts beyond what ANY slot machine online or offline has; it's really truly random guys! in our short life we have seen players with very small starting bets ride up to HUGE payouts on the slots. trick is when you're playing with the house money is to risk it, it seems....

Anyways, we're here, just about done settling in (no flash games yet, after those are in and tested it's the end of the soft period--but hope we NEVER stop learning!) and after our true baptism by fire here, hope we continue to stand up as an RTG who will do their damnedest to be fair and honest with you.

If you never want to touch an RTG again, fair enough, can see your point. But if you care to try a casino running on RTG that wants to be fair, honest, responsive, we're here. Guarantee: we will not always get it right--but we will always work to set it right.

Best!

Billy
Hey Billy, thanks for replying. Sounds hopeful. I have been waiting and watching you guys. I was gonna deposit, but at the time there was no quicktender. Is that still the case (? for anyone). If so will it be coming soon as a dep. and with opt. Thanks
 

big_mac

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uk
seeing as you are here, BillyCubed, and you seem quite approchable, can I ask a couple of questions regarding the randomness?

Is it possible to change the payout of the slots?
If so, how fine-grained is it? (can you do, say 96.75%)
Also, how is that change apparent to the game? Do the payout amounts change? is the number of each symbol per reel changed? Are any other rules changed? Or is it a reel-choosing algorithm that changes - are the reels genuinely random, or are they chosen by some algorithm?

Don't worry if you can't answer them, I am just curious! I guess that RTG may consider them 'trade secrets' anyway, but there's no harm in asking. If you want me to keep any answers confidential, that's fine too - but I know you won't trust me with that ;-)

Thanks!
 

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