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RTG Casino Spam & the CAN-SPAM law. Accountability question.

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by winbig, Jan 15, 2008.

    Jan 15, 2008
  1. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting sick and *@#&$ tired of receiving a dozen plus spam mails a day from rogue RTG outfits. 99% of this being for fake casino landing pages that mask the identity of the true casino they are spamming, and the only links that are on that page lead to the download program for that casino. In which, 99% of the time lately is Gold VIP Club.

    I know these are (or not?) affiliates of these RTG casinos, but isn't RTG themselves liable for their licensees? IE: Wouldn't they be ultimately liable, under the CAN-SPAM laws, for this spam?

    I'm definitely no lawyer, so I can't make heads or tails of the CAN-SPAM laws, other than the basics. I know for a fact that some states have successfully sued spammers and WON...and I can also guarantee that people in those states are definitely getting spammed.

    What I'm getting at here is, with enough evidence reported to the gov't, would RTG be held accountable for all of this spam, or the casino for whom the affiliate is spamming? It'd almost be impossible to catch the spammers directly, but if there's no casino to spam, then of course it'll go away.

    Of course the casinos in question will blame it directly on the spammers, but IIRC, there have been companies sued for the actions of their employees, subcontractors, etc.

    I'd love to see RTG crash and burn because of this, but I doubt that'll ever happen. But, it'd be the next best thing to see these rogue casino outfits disappear from the online world.
     
  2. Jan 17, 2008
  3. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Well, RTG sold it's licencing arm to Hastings, and then iteslf buggered off to Costa Rica, thus making any legal action against RTG itself very difficult. Had it remained in Atlanta, it would probably already be before the courts, and it probably knew this when it made the changes. RTG also wanted to continue to fully support US players, by allowing operators free choice to accept them, and their corporate moves were intended to prevent them being held liable for supplying online gambling to US players.
     
  4. Jan 17, 2008
  5. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    aye, but some of the marketing is done out of a Florida business address iirc.
     
  6. Jan 17, 2008
  7. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

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    I get this 4 or more times aweek
    I hate them all.

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  8. Jan 18, 2008
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Only 4 a week, consider yourself lucky. I get that many in a day, and those are the obvious ones. They are getting more flashy too. It started out as text and links, but now it's full page visual ads.

    Any casino that offers $2400 for free has to be considered to be rogue, which in this case is correct. Most spam comes from rogue RTG and Playtech casinos, often using made up names. Sadly, there is now a significant, and growing, number of previously respected casinos being spammed in this manner, with nothing being done to stop it. We cannot expect rogue casinos to stop spamming, indeed, it is one sure way to spot them. It is different for reputable casinos, as it shows an inability to properly run their businesses, and brings their status into question.
     
  10. Jan 19, 2008
  11. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Goldengate links (ime) go to a download for goldvipclub rtg casino. I created a new gmail address for gvipclub and within a week or two got my first gmail spam, from a chinese yahoo address for goldengate/goldvipcasino. BUSTED. These fools not only sell their addresses they sell them to 'affiliates' who spam their maker. bwahahahaha:puke:
     
  12. Jan 19, 2008
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Can we re-rail the thread here? Thanks... :p
     

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