Royal Dutch Casino

[GemG7]

Puma did you read this entire thread or only the last couple of pages? What Sarah posted yesterday wasn't the first time she posted sensitive information. Did you read all the documentation that Bryan has posted regarding why he put this casino on the rogue list?

Christine stated at P4K that the board was not affiliated with RDC and here you say you are an affliate. Which is it?

 

[pumacat]

Christine stated at P4K that the board was not affiliated with RDC and here you say you are an affliate. Which is it?

she didnt say the board wasnt, she said she wasnt, because i am the affiliate, thats why im here reading this everyday, ive been reading the last 20 pages.

I will consider everthing

thank you

puma

 

[Pinababy69]

Royal dutch will make the player happy

I seriously doubt that this player will ever be happy (I wouldn't be), given what this group of shysters has put him through. Again, some are missing the point, it is not strictly about money, it is about ethics (or lack thereof), lowlife business practices, breach of confidentiality, non-payment of monies owing, and the list goes on.

I think this will be my last post on this subject, unless Sarah decides to rear her ugly head again. I had my fun with it last night, I debated a small amount with Puma today, and anyone who doesn't grasp the severity of this whole mess has no business in the online gaming industry, and certainly no business advising people where to play.

And now, the dog is gonna go chew on her bone and decide where to bury it first. LMAO @ Vixen, she knows me too well.

 

[jetset]

QUOTE: Perhaps over time Royal Dutch can become a great casino and get past this.UNQUOTE

A complete change of management and maybe even ownership could bring this about - not too much else, as any study of the facts (yes facts - documented and emails) will show.

It is typical Royal Dutch manoeuvring to throw a red herring across the trail by promising to *possibly* pay the aggrieved player the remaining $1 000 on which they they welched. After ten months of uphill the player had to suffer???! They think that might work?

They may even pay it in extremis in the hope that their remaining affiliates will make the rest of this stuff go away.

I don't believe it will go away, because this whole incident and their behaviour throughout speaks to their ethics and integrity, and not in flattering terms.

This will be long remembered.

As the previous poster has commented - some of this stuff is the worst casino behaviour many of us have encountered - and that's saying something in this business!

 

[gomag]

I have been asked why dont I just ban RDC from the GOM poll? The reason being is that they dont even show up on our radar screen and banning them would just draw more attention to the site.

Why give give more exposure? To tell you the truth, I did not even know who they were until a couple of weeks ago!

 

[winbig]

I have been asked why dont I just ban RDC from the GOM poll? The reason being is that they dont even show up on our radar screen and banning them would just draw more attention to the site.

Why give give more exposure? To tell you the truth, I did not even know who they were until a couple of weeks ago!

You have a great point there. At least you have the heads up on them now.

Is there a "worst of the worst" category? I'm sure they'd sweep those ratings.

 

[Pinababy69]

Just an FYI, I have now been banned at P4K (oh woe is me, lol) and further, the owner of the board saw fit to have a whole thread dedicated to me and my rather large mouth. Of course, that has now been deleted. All this because of my comments here obviously. I wonder if RDC expressed their displeasure, something set her off that's for sure. Just another amusement.

 

[redbaron]

I think this is one of the longest threads ive ever seen im my entire life.

Witch hunting is always a fun thing to do.

What makes me laugh so hard is that Royal Dutch only have one no pay complaint.

Please someone tell me exactly how many people is not getting their winnings here. How many "no pays" are we talking about here...

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And now, the dog is gonna go chew on her bone and decide where to bury it first. LMAO @ Vixen, she knows me too well.

Its funny how they busted you ...you have the so called "Bone-us" Syndrome, your opinion is for sale and in this case you were sold for a lousy $75 bucks so keep chewing "bone-us"

Jetset 2 quick questions, is it true that you decided to help the player because you were getting 50% of the total claim??

and number 2 whats your revenue % share again on 32red??,i know you did pretty well this month.

 

[Pinababy69]

Its funny how they busted you

Firstly, I don't consider myself "busted", I made a mistake in voting for a casino which I thought at the time was reputable. Had I come here and read this whole thread BEFORE, they would never have received my vote. So what did they expose? A mistake? Let's compare that to their transgressions? One player, or one hundred players? What is the difference? And the tactics employed....threats, impersonations, posting sensitive information, lying etc. These are beyond reprehensible for a casino that has access to personal player info, and is accepting people's hard earned money which they give in good faith.

Second, if you think that the casino posting a private email that was sent to them, private communication between myself and the casino, if you think that is "funny", wow is all I can say. You're not even worth my time. Even Pumacat put up a pretense of not understanding the severity of it all.

 

[GemG7]

So who is redbaron?

redbaron
Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: LA LA LAND
Posts: 1

Interesting first post

 

[redbaron]

The Red Baron:
Rittmeister Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen

Manfred von Richthofen was born on May 2, 1892 in Breslau, Germany (now Wroclaw Poland). He died on April 21, 1918, age 25, in the skies over Vaux sur Somme, France. His people called him der rote Kampfflieger (The Red Battle-Flyer), The French called him le petit rouge, and he is known in the English speaking world as the Red Baron. In a time of wooden and fabric aircraft, when twenty air victories insured a pilot legendary status and the coveted Pour Le Mrite (the famous "Blue Max") , Richthofen had eighty victories, and is regarded to this day as the ace of aces.

1st impressions are cool!!!

 

[Macgyver]

Where's Snoopy and his Sopwith Camel when you really need him?

 

[redbaron]

Please someone tell me exactly how many people is not getting their winnings here. How many "no pays" are we talking about here...

 

[texas hooters]

Don't feel alone Pina ! I was the first person to post after Puma posted the vote promo at P4K's. I was just asking why they would want to promote a rogue casino for their members. And Puma responded with something like why didn't I shut my big friggin mouth that Casinomeister wasn't the god of gambling so I am assuming he had already read this thread and was aware of the current situation. Needless to say I was also banned after that !

 

[Pinababy69]

I remember seeing that hOOters, I may even have it somewhere, lol. But you know what? Karma is a wonderful thing, it really is. I'd like to ask Sarah why RDC discontinued their vote promo with no prior warning?

 

[Pinababy69]

Where's Snoopy and his Sopwith Camel when you really need him?

OMG, roflmaoooo...I just read this.

 

[pumacat]

Im sorry texas, i shouldnt have told you to shut your big friggin mouth, your right , what I should have done was said " Please you are like a old age vetran on these boards, could you please be considerate and use the p4k complaints department like it is intended" I should have then followed up by saying, "is there anything I can take a look at and help you over at ECC ( read your profile ) where you seem to enjoy spending your time. I would be glad to help you hurt the feeling of many more peole.

Casino Meister is not the God of gambling...well call me an ass for expressing my opinion, I didnt say I dont like the guy or what he does, I simply said he is not the god of gambling, meaning he doesnt have final say over everything the rest of the gambling world does. And regardless of what anybody says or thinks, I am correct in thinking this. OMG, you are what....didnt you see what casino meister said ? give me a break.

I find it very funny how pinababy says something along the line of ..oh I made a mistake , excuse me..well, you made a mistake, now everybody, lets gang up on her, cause that what we all do when someone makes a mistake.

Pinababy , ive learned alot about you in the past few days, I know all about you and your little 2 face crap. You can all hate me, but one thing ive never done, is hide behind my opinions and have always come to post about anything I feel is worth posting about. Ive never stolen from anybody and have always stuck up for what I believe. I am an honest affiliate who more times then not throw money back to players after they have deposited just to try and be a good affiliate.

Never will I stop promoting a casino based on one single fact posted here. I do my own research as I suggest many of you should as well. Casino meister is to me used as a guide for people, not the bottom and final word.

I must again point out that its ok for people to bash a casino till their dead, but they cant really fight back and shove something in the face of someone who is obviously a 2 face member of the community. Voting them coming here and bashing them, you got alot of nerve I must say.

I think it looked great on you.

So for those of you who think karma is gonna get me, take your shots, Ive done nothing wrong but point out the following things.

1 . Pinababy votes and then bashes a casino

2. Texas hooters doesnt know where a complaints room is even though shes been to the board a million times

3. Not ever a complaint except this one player

4. No real proof, yeah I read the whole damn thread.

5. Casino Meister has control of what casino can launch a voting campain.

You Mr casino Meister have done something I believe to be just as unethical as perhaps posting pinababys vote, you have messed in the affairs of others based upon one small act. An act that has yet to be proved and has been offered to be solved.

 

[GemG7]

Does anyone else think redbaron is an affliate ho?

 

[texas hooters]

2. Texas hooters doesnt know where a complaints room is even though shes been to the board a million times

LMAO I was banned because I didn't know where the complaints room is? I highly doubt that but good try !

 

[Pinababy69]

Thank you Pumacat for today's comic relief. Between your post and the Snoopy comment, tee hee.

And after all this, you still don't get it. This thread is not about Casinomeister, it is not about P4K or you, it is not about a vote promo (that was just something that got added in later)....it is about Royal Dutch Casino and their lack of ethics, lack of professionalism and all round shady dealings.

And everything you've "learned" about me (no doubt from some of my good friends, not).....that and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee.

 

[bonustreak]

I have a few things to say but first Hey Hoots I have that post copied..lol I know how fast things get deleted, I can send to you if you want, I think I may have already though.

 

[bonustreak]

Puma is this thread about you and P4k?

You say your an honest affiliate??? Would the old management of Adriches say so?

Your not even sure about Sarah and this casino Puma so why are you defending them? I have our chat from yesterday saved, you are clueless about them and wanted my opinion, now come on after all these pages you are still not convinced?

Red- Does it matter how many people are owed money here? Does it not concern you that this casino will go to any means to discredit a player? We have seen it over and over in this thread have we not?

This thread is not about attacking people for posting their opinion Puma and why turn this into bashing on each other? We all need to remember this is about the unprofessional tatics of the casino managment here not about each other!

 

[Thakid2u]

Man, I gotta agree with Vixen...Ironic huh....

Why is it that when someone has an opinion about the casino or whatever, it always turns into Name calling, Degrating, conversation. This kills me.

 

[pumacat]

Well, Im gonna close this thread ( for me ) and just drop everything. I learned a few things tonight and would just like to learn from the experience here. Ive set a a rule for myself. No more posting in anger, no more fighting and no more garbage. Id like to get along with all if possible, but this is alot of un needed stress, and simply not woth it. For those ive talked here with , good or bad, thank you for the experience.

 

[jetset]

Well, Im gonna close this thread ( for me ) and just drop everything. I learned a few things tonight and would just like to learn from the experience here. Ive set a a rule for myself. No more posting in anger, no more fighting and no more garbage. Id like to get along with all if possible, but this is alot of un needed stress, and simply not woth it. For those ive talked here with , good or bad, thank you for the experience.

Unfortunately, some of these internal ez-board squabbles tend to take attention away from the main issue here, and one gets suspect posters like the Red Baron suddenly appearing and attempting to discredit posters who are not posting favourably about Royal Dutch Casino.

Such as the following (which I answer for the record)

QUOTE Jetset is it true that you got 50 percent of the claim? UNQUOTE

Answer: Nope, it isn't. You are clearly in league with RDC on this though, and you therefore have the complainant's address and can ask him direct. Whilst you're doing that you might want to send him the $1000 you welched on, having agreed to that with the Casinomeister...or is he on the player's payroll too? LOL.

QUOTE: How are you doing with 32 Red? UNQUOTE

Answer: Not at all, unfortunately for you. You are either totally uninformed or you are throwing mud and hoping some of it might stick. That sounds like typical RDC behaviour, alright. I have absolutely no affiliate sites, income or dealings. I have no commercial ties with 32 Red or its ownership or management whatsoever.

And I'm upfront about my identity. Care to disclose your own seeing as your registration April 3 2005 doesn't tell us too much about the person behind the keyboard?

But we digress. Back to the central issue of RDC's totally unacceptable behaviour.

I agree with this comment made earlier in the thread by another poster:

"One player, or one hundred players? What is the difference? And the tactics employed....threats, impersonations, posting sensitive information, lying etc. These are beyond reprehensible for a casino that has access to personal player info, and is accepting people's hard earned money which they give in good faith."

I repeat my earlier observation on this operation - some of this stuff is the worst casino behaviour many of us have encountered - and that's saying something in this business!

 

[The Dude]

I cant believe Ive wasted the past 45 minutes of my life reading the posts that appeared over the weekend. Man, I wish I had a time machine

What makes me laugh so hard is that Royal Dutch only have one no pay complaint.

Please someone tell me exactly how many people is not getting their winnings here. How many "no pays" are we talking about here...

Wake up and smell the coffee. The only casino underworld is much more complex than you realize. Its not as simple as we pay em = we are good. There are many other issues besides payments.

The no pay issue was merely one element of a string of questionable activities. Some have been voluntarily posted by Dutch herself in several of the threads here. The rouging of this casinos was via a showcase of one example.

And by the way, welcome to the forum Redbaron

Jetset 2 quick questions, is it true that you decided to help the player because you were getting 50% of the total claim??

and number 2 whats your revenue % share again on 32red??,i know you did pretty well this month.

but before giving you too much of a hearty welcome - lets get something straight, this forum is not a playground to start slinging accusations at members. Jetset and I both assisted this player, and there was no talk of getting a cut. And what the hell does 32red have to do with this?

Pumacat, I have no idea what you trying to get at saying what I did was as unethical as RDC??

You Mr casino Meister have done something I believe to be just as unethical as perhaps posting pinababys vote, you have messed in the affairs of others based upon one small act. An act that has yet to be proved and has been offered to be solved. ...

No offence Pumacat, but your (and many others for that matter) reading skills are lacking. This forum is full of incidences where this casino has screwed up. The Rogue section is just one example of one case. Take the time to browse the forum, (and the rest of the Internet for that matter) seek and you will find. To continue promoting this casino is just plain irresponsible there are mountains of casinos to promote that are way better than this crew. Why you chose this group is beyond me.

An act that has yet to be proved and has been offered to be solved. .(??) So you think I made up the headers that show that the previous owner (the French guy in Canada) and the new owner were emailing from the same IP address. That the French guy (old owner) created a document that shows the new companys name as the creating entity or did you skip that part and not read it.

Before you start slamming me in my own board, you ought to look at the information that I and others have presented. Its not all that difficult or complex to grasp.

This thread has been derailed enough with message board war rhetoric. I dont have the patience or time for this bullshit. If this thread cant be kept on topic then Ill have no problem locking it. If anyone has a problem with P2Ks easyboard take it outside please. Thank you.

 

[jetset]

Perhaps getting you to lock the thread is exactly what RDC wants, 'Meister?

I would keep it open for now - they're doing a pretty good job of condemning themselves and their affiliates.

 

[caruso]

Locking the thread would be very counter-productive. And anyway, it isn't rocket science to see through the recent attack of affiliate-whoredom, and those posts do have the one benefit, amongst all the malicious comments and misinformation, of keeping the thread high and plainly visible.

 

[grubby23]

my experiences with RDC

First of all, dont slam me when i say that I voted for this tremendous casino .

As i read that there is no chance for them in the voting poll, i decided to give it a go. Its free money, so there is nothing to lose. I get 75$ for free and played then Reddog as this was NOT on the list of restricted games. After fullfilling the wagering requirements I requested a payout. Furthermore I wrote an Email to support how to proceed. As I had not reveived a reply by the next day, I logged in and saw that my withdrawel request was cancelled

I contacted them via "live chat", then I was told that my request was cancelled because I didnt send the required documents. I told them that I havent received a mail where they are asking for it. Answer: Yeah the email bounced back i should give them a valid Email address. WTF I use this email address for 4 years, this was the first complaint that in bounced back...

Anyway, I said I will send the documents asap. But then he informed me that I played Reddog which should be a variaton of BJ, therefore it doesnt count towards wagering requirements. Guys, I had to laugh because for me this was hilarious. For God's sake, where is there a similarity between Reddog and BJ, I couldnt believe it. But somehow he said that I will get paid as a matter of good faith and I should "post something nice into the various gambling forums". So RDC hope you are happy with the comment I am making here. Another nice feature was, that I was not able to copy the conversation of the "live chat".

But to my surprise, the money was in my neteller account 24 hours later, although it was only 69 instead of 70 dollars. I think the customer has here to pay the fees.

Conclusion: Payout was fast, support a disgrace. As Casinomeister stated there are many better places out there. I ll never deposit, but should they offer a free I' ll be there!

Cheers
grubby23

PS: Please dont close this thread casinomeister, its fun!

 

[bonustreak]

Just to make it clear I am co-owner of one ez site and we did take down the casino and had our affiliate account closed(with any monies due left in), I just don't want you all thinking every ez site is bad. This was not easy to do, I received phone calls, emails etc, but I stuck to my guns on this one, we will not be associated with this rogue.

This thread should be left open I say also, everyone should read that slime and see all your proof Bryan, I for one was SHOCKED when I read all your proof!

 

[jenn1381]

I was brought to this thread from a link at the streak and was completely floored to read all this casino has done. I have not deposited there, but it was on my list of casinos to support while it was a sponser of the streak. Thank God I never had the chance! Honestly, it's not about how many people haven't been paid, although when you look at how reputable a casino is, payment is very high on that list. It's about how this was handled - do they have a bunch of kids working there? Dear lord, it took me all weekend to read all this crap, and while I am glad to be informed I also wish I had a time machine! If I owned a forum there would be no way in hell I would advertise Royal Dutch Casino. They stoop as low as attacking a player for voting for them (BEFORE the player was aware of their non-payment and complete childishness) and posting personal info for all to see, and yet people STILL say that's ok it's only one person, I'll keep them on as a sponser? If the streak did that, lettme tell you, I'd be GONE and I'd never come back (thank goodness the streak is truly FOR their players and doesn't want to see them ripped off!). And then, and wow this really gave me a tickle... They tell a player they'll pay them "out of good faith" when the player had done nothing wrong and had followed terms and conditons stated on the website - but because they paid them, they should go post some positive feedback on some forums - lmao! Seriously Royal Dutch, quit grasping for straws!!! You could have a thousand seemingly happy, paid winners come post here, and after the crap you pulled I doubt anyone here would still deposit with you. You are a bunch of children trying to run a buisness! My dog could run it better than you have!!!!
Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention and helping me to save my hard earned (and hard to come by!) money! I am glad to see forums like the winning streak and this one who are truly out to help their players - especially the not so smart or informed ones like myself.

 

[winbig]

It just tickles me that RD has a rep as a member here, but yet they don't bother to try and stick up for themselves. That just shows that everything that's been said here is true. Dutch's last post was the one she made making that vote public. (April 2)

 

[bAdSmoker]

I say ban pumacat for his ignorance.

And god bless his poor little soul.


Oh and Pina sorry to hear about all this bullshnit about this lame casino called "Royal Dutch" and what they have done to you dear.

But dont ya worry! The Smoker's got your back.

 

[suzecat]

Vote?

You have a great point there. At least you have the heads up on them now.

Is there a "worst of the worst" category? I'm sure they'd sweep those ratings.

I'll vote for RDC in that category! Do you think they will pay me $75?

 

[caruso]

They seem to be gone.

 

[jinnia]

Their main hosting is down- gone - did wwide.com own this casino as well as host it ??


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