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Update.

These RDC people have again offered the player his cash, subject to a 40+ wagerthru'. He has rejected it because as outlined earlier he had already fulfilled all the T&Cs when he tried to make his withdrawal eight months back. He still has emails from RDC at that time which confirm his claim and make various excuses for delayed payment. There is no doubt that he is being screwed i.m.o.

RDC's Angelo Vittorino is whining about my posts highlighting his casino's shortcomings on the message boards and hinted darkly that his management are thinking of withdrawing their not-so-generous offer, which indicates to me that their offer was deliberately structured so they could turn their backs on the player "Having offered a fair settlement"

He also threatened to publicly post the player's gaming records which could be interesting because they have consistently refused to give those to the player. As a counter to any possible fabrication should RDC do this, the player has supplied details of individual transactions to independent observers as a safety cross-check. We have challenged Vittorino to go ahead and publish.

In Costa Rica, enquiries are continuing into LOHB Banking SA and the e-processors in use at Royal Dutch Casino now and in the past.
 
Just for an early morning amusement - check out the "Wayback" machine. Royal Dutch Casino's archived "Privacy& Security" page has this statement:

Winnings:
Your winnings and cash-outs are kept strictly private and confidential. Winnings information is kept in secure operating environments. Swiss Casino keeps your winnings information private and does not provide this information to any third party unless acting under a good faith belief that such information is required to be disclosed under law, regulation or any governmental or competent regulatory authority.
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:lolup: How sloppy! Rip off Swiss Casino's content - and then leave it up!

Oops! I'm sorry - this was the "previous" management's doing. :D This was the old RDC - now we're dealing with the new and improved version.
 
LMAO. I guess it could have been IQ-L as their original turnkey provider, but I would certainly not put it past RDC then or now!
 
Just a guess here, but it sure looks like there's more to their involvement in the GFED debacle than meets the eye. They did something to GFED much more serious than just a little spam. Neither side seems to want to say what the real issue is. :what: Hmmmmm, what could they have done to GFED that made GFED so ANGRY they would do what they did? It sure wasn't just some complaints about spam. This should be interesting. Onviously they don't intend to pay this player his money either.
 
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LOL - judging by the way they conducted themselves in the player dispute here (see below for latest developments) it would certainly be interesting to find out.

CASINO CAUTIONS

Royal Dutch dispute rolls on

The Royal Dutch Casino people have again offered the aggrieved player his cash...BUT subject to a 40+ wagerthru'. He has rejected it because as outlined in earlier InfoPowa bulletins he had already fulfilled all the T&Cs when he tried to make his withdrawal eight months back. He still has emails from RDC at that time which confirm his claim and make various excuses for delayed payment. There is no doubt that he is being screwed in our opinion.

RDC representatives were this week complaining about posts highlighting this casino's shortcomings and inconsistencies in this affair on the message boards, and hinted darkly that management are thinking of withdrawing their not-so-generous offer, which might indicate that their offer was deliberately structured so they could turn their backs on the player "Having offered a *fair* settlement"

The casino has also threatened to publicly post the player's gaming records. This could be interesting because they have consistently refused to give those to the player. As a counter to any possible fabrication should this be done, the player has supplied details of individual transactions to independent observers as a safety cross-check. And the player has challenged the casino to go ahead and publish.

In Costa Rica, enquiries are continuing into the LOHB Banking SA previous owners and their e-processing company.

STOP PRESS: As we went to press this week, Royal Dutch management contacted the Casinomeister, deliberately excluding the original mediator in this dispute from the communication. The casino has apparently now backed down and unconditionally agrees to pay the player the $2 700 he is due.

After eight months of stress, this will be welcome news for the player but remains a serious indictment of the way this casino has conducted its business.

But it is an example of what can be achieved by a determined player with a legitimate claim.
 
Royal Dutch New SPAM

I found the below email in my spam folder and it is from Royal Dutch Casino:

From: [email protected]

Subject: You are the Draw Winner check below

To: [email protected]






I found the subject to be misleading because I did NOT win anything and I have never signed up for any kind of drawing. I have never even downloaded RDC so where did they get my email address from? :what:

Could they have acquired this information from the alleged stolen data base from the ex-ployee? GFED needs to address the issue as to who all was listed in this data base that should have been secured from hackers, thieves, disgruntle employees, etc. I bet RDC could provide us with the information.(no doubt the data base is now in their possession) RDC could be using this very same info in this new spam bonus that is now circulating.

Well, I'm going to put this email back into the spam folder and permanently block all future emails from RDC and this astrology name and any and all references to RDC.

Exact email quoted:


Read to the end to see if you are the *$100 draw winner.
RoyalDutchCasino.com
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Another HUGE PROMOTION from Royal Dutch Casino.com
Receive an extra 150% bonus on your first purchase
Of $20 - $500 (Promo Code: RD150) GO HERE >> *

Experience high quality service and get lots of free cash,
Don't miss out on this opportunity!

Today's RoyalDutch's $100 draw was won by Henry Baker.
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*Black Jack, Roulette, Baccarat, Pai Gow, Poker, Craps and Video Poker
will NOT count towards meeting the wagering requirements.
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credit card number, and environments where computers are shared
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Hey Jetset:

Maybe RDC is hoping to raise enough money from this promotion so that they can finally pay the player.......I hope he gets paid soon, it's been way too long and too many games are being played here. Players should just STAY AWAY from Royal Dutch Casino.



:( BS
 
LOL - yet another example of how these "professional" RDC online casino managers do business!!! Personally, I wouldn't touch this place with a ten foot bargepole having witnessed their method of operating - they appear to have little in the way of ethics or expertise.

Regarding the eight month long player dispute for $2 700, despite RDC's attempt to exclude the original mediator from their back down, I have been kept informed.

So, I can say that assuming RDC are (at last) doing the right thing we should have some positive news from the player in the very near future - he supplied his bank details last week, and a bankwire should not take too long.

But that's assuming that they are sincere in their statement that they intend to pay him the $2 700 without conditions attached.
 
babysister said:
I found the below email in my spam folder and it is from Royal Dutch Casino:
...
Hi Baby sister,

Could you please send me a copy of this email to include all headers? Thanks!

You ask you they got your email address? Hmmm. Have you ever downloaded any of Gambling Federation casinos? That may be your answer :D
 
Stopping Royal Dutch Spam

:eek:
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:eek:

Sarah from Royal Dutch Casino sent me a PM about that promotion of spam email. Well she wants folks to report it to them if you receive spam email from an affliate or from them. Here it is in public view and consider this as also reporting your rogue affliate. Now I would like to know what are you going to do about it considering your policy on spam. Anyone else that needs to report receiving that email from RDC, the email addresses are listed below to file a complaint on the affliate.

PS... Sarah, did RDC get my email from a stolen GFed casino player data base?? Cause I sure as hell never downloaded Royal Dutch Casino. Inquiring minds would like to know!!!!! :D :D :D

QUOTE:

Dear BabySister

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Dear BabySister

My name is Sarah Czwald and i would like to apologize for the inconvinience,also i kindly ask for your help.

We have zero tolerance towards spam, if an affiliate spam, affiliate relationship will be terminated, referrals will be wiped clean from our system, and the affiliate in question will be forever banned from Royal Dutch Casino.

If you had been spammed by one of our affiliates, please report it to [email protected] or [email protected] and immediate action will be taken . Please include the spam email, PASTE FULL SPAM HEADERS AND BODY OF E-MAIL.


Cordially

Sarah C

UNQUOTE:

BS :cool:
 
"The affiliates dunnit" is the oldest excuse in the online casino industry, right up there with "we're conducting an audit on your account so we can't pay you yet".

To me it shows sloppy affiliate discipline and management.

I almost (I said "almost") feel sorry for Sarah Czwald who is continually on the defensive thanks to the unprofessional way in which this Costa Rican outfit operates.

BTW the $2 700, eight month old payment they promised to the aggreived player I have referred to previously here has still NOT appeared in his bank account....tick tock, tick tock......
 
Dutch said:
We have zero tolerance towards spam, if an affiliate spam, affiliate relationship will be terminated, referrals will be wiped clean from our system, and the affiliate in question will be forever banned from Royal Dutch Casino.
Hi Sarah,

Looks like your marketing department needs to fire themselves. :D This did not come from an affiliate - it came from you guys:

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Read to the end to see if you are the *$100 draw winner.
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
Another HUGE PROMOTION from Royal Dutch Casino.com
Receive an extra 150% bonus on your first purchase
Of $20 - $500 (Promo Code: RD150) GO HERE >> *


Experience high quality service and get lots of free cash,
Don't miss out on this opportunity!


Today's RoyalDutch's $100 draw was won by Henry Baker.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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*Rollover Deposit + Bonus Twenty Times (20x)
*Black Jack, Roulette, Baccarat, Pai Gow, Poker, Craps and Video Poker
will NOT count towards meeting the wagering requirements.
*Only One Real Account per player. All promotions are available only
once per person, family, household address, e-mail address,
credit card number, and environments where computers are shared
(university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc).
*General Rules
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LMAO...busted again. It's like shooting fish in a barrel as these characters go deeper and deeper into trouble.
 
thank you

thank you all for drawing out all the horrible actions this casino has made and is capable of,because of this info me and many of my freinds will close our accounts and make sure none of our freinds signup with them if they already havent. this post has scared the heck out of me about depositing with casinos in general
 
yobaboy said:
thank you all for drawing out all the horrible actions this casino has made and is capable of,because of this info me and many of my freinds will close our accounts and make sure none of our freinds signup with them if they already havent. this post has scared the heck out of me about depositing with casinos in general
It's a shame that "clip joint" casinos like this taint this industry. There are many good respectable operators out there, and RDC does them a disservice.

By the way, they've clammed up on this "wire" that was to be sent to this aggrieved player. They refuse to confirm that it has been sent.

What's up with that Dutch??
 
I received this great, informative email while ago........ :confused:


----- Original Message -----
From: "Royal Dutch Casino" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: Payout Of All Slots Increased To 98 %


Royal Dutch Casino
 
Thank you

Mr.Miester.

Hi..THis is giggles7p..i have my own forum and was sent here by one of my members ....she thought i might be interested in this thread.

And she was correct.

A week ago Sarah..From Royal Dutch inboxed me..I have never been to thier casino and have never approached them about sponsorship of my board...BUt here she was offering sponsorship and a bunch of free accounts and big deposit bonuses for me to offer my members...Now being a new board...{ only been open 3 months]..i was more than happy to have a new sponsor...

I pride myself on only having good sponsors on my board..so that i do not have to worry for my members or have to deal with ..what i am reading here.


So i am on my way back to my board..now after reading this entire thread..to drop Royal Dutch and explain why to my members...i think its in their best interest not to gamble there..and i do not want to be the reason they do...I promised all members of my board that i would not promote bad casinos..only trust worthy so they can feel comfortable with any casino i have on the board...

So i would like to thank you for the work you do here...you help people like myself ...who want to do whats right for there members...but don't know all the ins and outs of the casino business yet to be able to prove a good casino from a bad casino.

Thank you for helping me keep my board a clean and upstanding one.!!

Sincerely
Giggles7p
 
Hi Giggles7p,

Good move. And watch this space for more developments.

And webmastering/promoting online casinos is a commitment not to take lightly. If you have a chance, read this:
Old URL

It's a little outdated, but well worth the read.
 
Good on you, Giggles - nice to see a responsible approach.

Doing it right will ultimately save you stress and the time it takes to prise fair solutions out of people like Angelo Vitorino, Sarah Czwald and the other *great* folks at Royal Dutch Casino!
 
thank you again!

Mr. Meister..

Thank you for refering me to that wonderful thread..

All affiliates should be required to read this...once a month..just to remind us what we are "supposed" to be doing!

Thank you
Giggles
 
Just a heads up.

I've been involved with a player's dispute with this casino for a number of weeks now. Recent developments have shown that they are acting in bad faith; regardless, I have repeatedly told them that they need to take immediate action and pay this player - it is in their best interest to do so.

I feel that anyone who has taken the time to read this thread, and the thread concerning the GFed Malware issue, probably has a good idea what I'm dealing with.

I expect this issue to be resolved today one way or another.
 
We're at the eleventh hour on this one - nope, in fact it's nearly midnight, and I'm letting this go until tomorrow early morning. I believe tomorrow will be an eventful day for RDC.
 
Well, they can never say that they were not given numerous opportunities to come right on this, and you have been extraordinarily patient with these charlatans.

If there are to be consequences for them, they have brought these on themselves with their continual bad faith, prevarications, harassment and generally unprofessional behaviour.
 
trkwak said:
Was there ever any resolution to this?
At the moment, we're waiting on the casino to wake up and smell the coffee. They reneged on their end of the deal and the player was only partially paid. The last email I received was from last Friday that promised full payment by the end of the day.

This casino can not be trusted - and I will be publishing proof of a number of direct lies (from the casino) that are connected to this ordeal. A full report on this is imminent; it will prove to be an amusing read - :D

Any comments on this Dutch before I blow this out of the water?? :D
 
This thread has received over 5 500 views, which hopefully indicates that a reasonable number of players have been warned about this online casino.

Judging by my (mediator) experience with the manouevres of the Royal Dutch Casino management in this case of a player owed $2 700 since mid-2003, I would say they are surely among the most integrity-challenged folks it has been my misfortune to deal with.

Remember the names:

Sarah Czwald
Paul Giordano
Daniel Giordano
Angelo Vitorino
Angelo Bellio
and of course the mysterious and maybe even fictitional Jean-Phillipe Le Blanc!

You will probably see those names *up in lights* at some stage.

And seeing as it now seems they have finally welched on the last $1 000 they owed this long-suffering and genuine player, perhaps I might contribute to the 'Meister's review by highlighting just a few of the activities of these palookas as described in this thread.

Our player's hardships commenced when he managed to win $2 700 mid-2003. He has emails that clearly show that although they were delaying payment and jerking him around Royal Dutch clearly knew this was a legitimate claim that they had an obligation to pay.

The guy is a genuine player who has been completely upfront and cooperative.

RDC continued to screw the player around through the alleged change of ownership and software that occurred early this year, when the *new* management denied any responsibility on grounds that it was a debt that belonged to the *old* management. But the convention in these cases runs against that contention and this was explained to them.

Then they refused and consistently danced around the player's request for fundamental information that would convince them of his claim, as they had now accused him of *fabricating* his emails. They would not supply him with play logs, or the identity of the alleged *former* operators or e-processors. In short they clearly were determined not to pay this guy, and not to help him prove his bona fides.

The next move was to offer him $300 (remember he was owed $2 700) with a x35 or x40 wagerthru' attached to it! You can imagine what his chances were on that.

They then tried to intimidate the player by contacting him and suggesting that they would sic a "Washington lawyer" on him, and they hinted none too subtly that they could also report him to the US tax authorities. This is all documented on email. The player refused to be intimidated, and the next thing you know he gets a bogus phone call from some clown claiming to be from the US Office of Home Security. The player gave this idiot short shrift as well.

Coincidence? Maybe, except that only the player and the casino had those particular contact details!

Long story short, these Costa Rican guys continued to duck and dive, changing their position and trying to portray themselves to the player community as reasonable and honest people...but not paying the player or giving him any useful information.

Investigations were commenced in Costa Rica - in RDC's backyard - in an attempt to get helpful information.

Earlier this month they unprofessionally and without prior notice to player or mediator switched negotiating to the 'Meister, ignoring myself as the player's appointed mediator. That was a problem of principle rather than practical concern, as the 'Meister was well informed on the case and good from the player's point, and kept everyone in the loop anyway. The main objective of those involved (except RDC!) was to get the player paid.

We were now over nine months into the life of this dispute and RDC changed its posture once again, now allegedly finding the former owner, the mysterious Monsieur Le Blanc and promising payment.

The 'Meister will no doubt give more detail regarding these exchanges, but the upshot was that it was agreed that the $2 700 was owed as *new* RDC had been misled by *old* RDC and would be paid.

Then the wrangle switched to *conditions* despite the fact that the player had made it very clear that he had no intention of accepting any conditions beyond an acknowledgement that he had been paid and he regarded the matter as resolved.

Once again the RDC unprofessionally tried to by-pass the mediator in attempting to persuade the player to post that they were marvellous people. He was even offered a new RDC account, which was beyond cheeky i.m.o. and was declined.

Eventually the player was asked to supply banking details so he could be paid. That was quickly and efficiently done. Further delays followed, culminating in a request that he open a PPATM account in order to be paid. That, too was done.

Finally, over nine months after his win, the player received.....$ 1 700. They had shorted him by a thousand!

And that's where we now stand.

Draw your own conclusions from this factual account.
 
Take this report for what it is worth, it is not intended to try to promote this casino or dissuade anyone from using it, it is simply a report of the facts since I have been a customer there, I am no schill, just a common player & have no alter motives.

I sent em $250 to start playing (i didnt asked for a bonus) unfortunately I quickly lost the money after a couple of hands of black jack, days later i tried again for another $250 again (i didnt asked for a bonus), This time i was really lucky at the tables and in about few hours i had a very good balance, same night i requested a payout.

Royal Dutch paid me $3283 in full, without delays or excuses any kinds. $500 by WU and days later i received a check for $2783

Their Software - is user friendly & they have a nice game selection.

I have found the staff to be INCREDIBLY friendly, always speaking to you with respect & with a friendly tone of voice. This I must say is a big difference from most casinos customer service agents I speak to, who make you feel like that they are doing you a favor when they speak to you. VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR CS & THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

There has been a lot of speculation about this casino with a lot of it being Negative. I would love to hear from other RDC Customers & whether or not they have had positive or negative experiences....
 
jmildstone said:
...There has been a lot of speculation about this casino with a lot of it being Negative. I would love to hear from other RDC Customers & whether or not they have had positive or negative experiences....
I'm not speculating at all. These guys are bad apples. Don't let them fool you. I'll be publishing a full report hopefully by the end of the day.
 
I agree - and I've seen some nasties during my time in the business.

I did forget to include in the above factual report that I was also subjected to a very nasty virus attack, with my (expensive) hassles coinciding exactly with the first email I received from Angelo Vitorino. He denied culpability, and unfortunately the technical guys I had to call in have been unable to provide incontrovertible evidence as to its origins.

RDC appear to have no restraint in their business conduct. That's being charitable.
 
I just had to laugh today, they spammed (affil probably) me with a promotion offer of 500%.....and down farther in the mail, they had a list of "Please Visit Our Friends' forums,support the community and participatein the hottest contest." at ezboard.....of which none of them worked. Shill boards gone wrong?


What gets me is their promotions page tells nothing of the 500%. Nor does their main page.
 
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A Special Note of Gratitude

I would like to express my gratitude to Bryan Bailey (Casinomeister) and to Brian Cullingworth (Jetset) for their incredible efforts to force Royal Dutch Casino to pay my withdrawal. I was 4 or 5 months into the process when I requested help first from Brian Cullingworth, and then Bryan Bailey pitched in to help. The way that these two guys worked together to get information was simply spectacular. They played this situation like a serious game of chess (or poker). It was more exciting than most soap operas on TV...... and it was just as bizarre. From the threat of Washington lawyers to a fake call from "a federal agent with homeland security" who was investigating my IRS situation -- lol. I could not believe the amount of effort (work) that they put into helping me. And they even got RDC to pay me 1700 dollars of what they owed. The show that these two put on in the forum and in emails was great entertainment. I simply cannot thank each of them enough.
 
Hey 'DUTCH'

I wonder if 'Dutch' will continue to post on this board, and continue to bring us the 'amusement' he/she provided us with during the course of this thread?

I would hope so, as they truly are a 'Joke Factory'... :p

If not... 'Good riddence to Bad Rubbish'... :)
 
bgammonb said:
I would like to express my gratitude to Bryan Bailey (Casinomeister) and to Brian Cullingworth (Jetset) for their incredible efforts to force Royal Dutch Casino to pay my withdrawal. I was 4 or 5 months into the process when I requested help first from Brian Cullingworth, and then Bryan Bailey pitched in to help. The way that these two guys worked together to get information was simply spectacular. They played this situation like a serious game of chess (or poker). It was more exciting than most soap operas on TV...... and it was just as bizarre. From the threat of Washington lawyers to a fake call from "a federal agent with homeland security" who was investigating my IRS situation -- lol. I could not believe the amount of effort (work) that they put into helping me. And they even got RDC to pay me 1700 dollars of what they owed. The show that these two put on in the forum and in emails was great entertainment. I simply cannot thank each of them enough.
You're welcome. But too bad they didn't come around 180 degrees.
 
Unfortunately, Royal Dutch is just getting started.
The latest scheme....They're offering $75 free for voting for them at GOM.
$25 each for Top Casino, Top New casino, and........drumroll.....Quickest Payouts! :eek2:
 
Problem there is Eric Morris has to walk a fine line. There are a lot of forums and other casinos who have contests or bonuses for GOM votes. I know last year he tried to take Brandy (shudder) out of the running because of that squirrelly "Let's Talk About Brandy" promotion, but he ended up reinstating Brandy. I don't believe there's any hard and fast rule against "buying" votes at GOM. And it'd be damned hard to police it if there was.
Unfortunately for Eric and GOM, this sort of thing does taint the outcome. Also unfortunately, thousands and thousands of people will vote for this rogue just for the free money....and Royal Dutch will "win". :(
 
swampwitch said:
Problem there is Eric Morris has to walk a fine line. There are a lot of forums and other casinos who have contests or bonuses for GOM votes. I know last year he tried to take Brandy (shudder) out of the running because of that squirrelly "Let's Talk About Brandy" promotion, but he ended up reinstating Brandy. I don't believe there's any hard and fast rule against "buying" votes at GOM. And it'd be damned hard to police it if there was.
Unfortunately for Eric and GOM, this sort of thing does taint the outcome. Also unfortunately, thousands and thousands of people will vote for this rogue just for the free money....and Royal Dutch will "win". :(

That's quite a shame. If I was a multi-millionare, I'd take out a full page ad in GOM (after the results are published, if RD casino is in there at all) detailing how they bought (literally) votes from people that have virtually no experience playing at the casino at the time they voted.
 
Let us not assume that RDC has already won the "Best Casino" contest. Casinos like Intercasino, King Neptunes, etc. have a far greater reach and will no doubt snow most of the competition under. And no need to become a millionaire and run full page ads - your money would best be donated to a charitible organization. Don't waste your thoughts on this - it's better to fantasize about other things anyway.

Besides, they got a full page spread here which probably reaches more people than GOM does (sorry Eric :D)
 

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