# Roulette ball/wheel memory!??

#### Bobcat78

##### Dormant account
I've always wondered about this - how can mathematical probability theory apply to roulette when the ball and wheel have no "memory". Probability works with cards ( Blackjack etc.) but how can it apply to roulette? However it must apply to some extent because it seems to be common sense to bet on the opposite colour or set of numbers when a long run of the same colour or number group has hit !?? Any thoughts ?

#### hedgehok

##### Meister Member
mm3
I've always wondered about this - how can mathematical probability theory apply to roulette when the ball and wheel have no "memory". Probability works with cards ( Blackjack etc.) but how can it apply to roulette? However it must apply to some extent because it seems to be common sense to bet on the opposite colour or set of numbers when a long run of the same colour or number group has hit !?? Any thoughts ?

Of course it applies to Roulette, or any other game of chance for that matter. What you question is the subject of "independence" between events. In most games there is independence between events such as roulette spins or slot spins. However there are instances of dependence of events such as poker, slots with "respins" like the new Microgaming slot Wild Orient or Blackjack if the cards are not shuffled between rounds (such as live-BJ).

The chance of the opposite colour to appear will neither in- nor decrease based on recent spins.

#### roulettedonkey

##### Banned User - Troll - making anti-semitic posts
Riggged casinos.

Maths apply to whatever you like as long as your hypothesis reasonably reflect reality.

One likes to believe gambling involves randomness, luck.

Unfortunately, it is not the case for online gambling.

Since (
) none of online gambling sites provide
environment (for slots and non-live table games), there is no reason to believe there is any randomness in this.

Noone wants to take gazillion \$\$\$ business out of tax havens and comedy regulatory authorities' hand, would you ?

As for live table games, especially Roulette, the same comedy authorities in charge of reviewing "fairness". Because of the nature of the game (a spin/roll every 1 to 60 seconds), you'll never be able to gather statistical evidence of the games being rigged.

Oh wait. Right. No one gives a f*ck here....

Yeah,
The chance of the opposite colour to appear will neither in- nor decrease based on recent spins.
^what he said.

#### dionysus

CAG
MM
I probably will never understand why one would think online gambling isn't random yet still gamble online.

#### Steviedoo

##### Meister Member
MM
I probably will never understand why one would think online gambling isn't random yet still gamble online.

I know right. I don't get it either.

#### goatwack

##### Love grows where my rosemary goes
CAG
Random is a state of mind

to help me remember that online gambling is really fair, I repeatedly mutter the following before each and every spin:

Ropey

Algorithms

Not

Dodgy

Or

Make-believe!

#### EbeeDog

##### Dormant account
I only play BJ, but as far as I can tell, online replicates my experience at B&Ms almost hand for hand. Horrible losing streaks and insane winning tears.

After years of playing at both, I've tossed all systems or strategies such as laddering your bets, counting cards etc. etc.

The ONLY way I win is what I call "guerilla warfare" betting:

1\$/1\$/2\$/1\$/5\$/1\$..WHAM 150\$ , 1\$/2\$/1\$/20\$/1\$...WHAM! 75\$ ....well, you get the idea. Add to that playing against the book at times.

Just like everything else, sometimes it works, sometimes not.

I've gotta say though, RTG casinos are quick to say that they have no control over the games. Bullshit. RealTime Gaming advertises it! "The Most Profitable Online Casino Solution!!" Recently, I was on a tear and the casino whacked my table limits from 1-250 down to 1-50. WTF is that, if not "control" over games?

I'm well aware of the risks involved in any type of gambling without smoke being blown up my ass so I don't ask any questions

These are just observations. I don't really give a shit. To sum up: I win or I lose. JUST like at B&Ms.

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