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[Rogue] very controversial i know!?!?!?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by lee_bumble, Nov 9, 2008.

    Nov 9, 2008
  1. lee_bumble

    lee_bumble Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Adminstration
    Location:
    UK
    Virtual and Crirrus have a bad rep. This is true! The thing that is nagging in the back of my mind is.... the fact that i have been paid every time. I'm not a poster boy for these casinos its just fact. So far i have recived over $20,000 from the metioned casinos. Yes i admit they are slow in paying. I have spoken to many different people on this web site who have had problems with these sites/casinos and all of them have got paid. This one for example: This person took the no deposit coupon from POC he got paid today. He recived 182.00 for nothing basically. What is going on? Theres more another guy from the netherlands that i spoke to on a personal level has also gat paid over $6000 now. I pretty much know what you guys are gonna say to this thread. Your gonna pull it apart and call me a fool, but i have spoken to ten people now 8/10 got paid and the other 2/10 dont seem to be responding. Open forum usuall rules apply and no bitchin PLEASE!!!
     
  2. Nov 9, 2008
  3. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    no bitching or preaching from me, but please take this with the respect im showing to you, count your blessings, ive been down that road and would have defended them till hell froze over, till i saw the light, its all good for you now but there are so many that have been hosed over by this group, but you know its your freedom to play where you want and i wish you continued luck, please take this advice from the heart, from someone who has been on your path, the golden path will soon turn to a dead end road........................laurie
     
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  4. Nov 9, 2008
  5. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    lee........well sure, with the APCW looking over their shoulder, short term compliance is to be expected from Virtual! CM has seen the "we've turned over a new leaf" BS from Virtual before and it does not last more than 6 months or so and then it's back to roguedom...............
     
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  6. Nov 9, 2008
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    ......and that is GOOD:what:


    If you went into a shop to buy a TV, but you were told that only 8 in every 10 sets would work, and if you bought one of the 2 in 10 dud sets, you could never get a refund - indeed the shop would completely ignore you....


    Would you shop there?
     
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  8. Nov 9, 2008
  9. Marie2473

    Marie2473 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Operator
    Location:
    Sweden
    Well i am one of the 2 then coz cirrus never paid me a cent after winning. I would never ever deposit there again but if it works for you, thats great =)
     
  10. Nov 9, 2008
  11. tristan727

    tristan727 Banned user - violation of <a href="http://www.ca

    Occupation:
    credit manager
    Location:
    London
    Spoken to 10 people? Is there a community of Cirrus players in the UK, or the web somewhere?!

    Have you ever considered investing your winnings in an Albanian pyramid scheme by the way....sounds right up your street.
     
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  12. Nov 9, 2008
  13. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    I do not see the point of the thread.
    As VWM says 8 out of 10 is good? and it sounds like some of the 8 you mention have only been partially paid or had to wait for their money.
    Are you saying we should play there on that basis?
    I may slate the RTG software from time to time (OK often) but at least there are RTG Casinos that will pay you and are accredited here so why even consider a rogued outfit?
     
  14. Nov 9, 2008
  15. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

    Occupation:
    On Disability,p/t online slots reviewer
    Location:
    PA
    Id just like to add that when we all started out new gambling, Im sure most of us played at a rogue before finding this site and got paid and didnt understand what the ruckus was about by other players

    After saying that: Bumble...I admit there are a select few ( one or two at most)rogues that some people do have luck with. I for one played 32Vegas and never had a problem but had to stop because of my location BUT...this particular group of casinos WILL screw you eventually. Right now they are under scrutiny but as others said, in 6 months if you win a random jackpot, I have no doubt you will be looking for your money.

    I really think if you played at a different rogue that wasnt in such a spotlight you wouldnt be getting as much flack but as Rusty said, this thread will end up nowhere. There is NO WAY anyone will back you up with this particular group of casinos.
     
  16. Nov 9, 2008
  17. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

    Occupation:
    Pencil Pusher
    Location:
    Up$hitCreek
    A few possibilities:

    Perhaps the OP thinks Virtual will pay her/him faster if he posts 'good' about them. (To the OP: do not be offended. These -- and similar-- casinos have extorted more than one player into posting "good things" in forums in hopes they'll get their money.)

    Perhaps s/he is trolling.
     
  18. Nov 9, 2008
  19. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    I could have been one of the eight too because I too was paid each and every time by all these casinos (the rogued ones) until one day I had to wait 8 days and lots of emailing back and forth for my money...totally out of the norm from 24-48 hour waiting and never had to repeatedly ASK for my money and knew it was time to move on before I got bit too by them..

    So...the moral of the story is....they will suck you in, get you comfortable with them and then boom, they slam down the lid ...no more withdrawals and they keep your money deposits and all and then you're out of luck!
     
  20. Nov 9, 2008
  21. Shocked

    Shocked Quit Gambling

    Occupation:
    Nurse
    Location:
    Staffs UK
    Don't think he's trolling, though his posting is very strange considering how much difficulty he's reported in the past about getting money out of Virtual Group casinos in the past (e.g. using the central dispute system and having to wait three months for one place)..and been critical of another. Perhaps there is something in your first suggestion.
     
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  22. Nov 9, 2008
  23. 1819

    1819 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired athlete
    Location:
    ny,nj,fla
    if a guy breaks into your home and only steals some of your stuff that does not make him a good guy....these places are clip joints pure and simple. all scam artists pay some people or the scam wouldnt work.
     
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  24. Nov 9, 2008
  25. funeral979

    funeral979 Senior Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    retail
    Location:
    Texas
    I think when he said 2 of the 10 were not responding, he meant not responding to his inqueries about the group, rather than the casinos not responding to the players...
     
  26. Nov 9, 2008
  27. lee_bumble

    lee_bumble Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Adminstration
    Location:
    UK
    I don't wish to encourage people to deposit at these casinos. I am mealy telling you my experiences. Yes i did have some problems in the past with 1 of them but that was resolved. I'm still owed 4000$ from party city casino but that is due next week and they have already paid me $20000. i will let you know what happens. If they don't pay I'll let you know and vice versa.

    P.s it is not my intention to promote these casinos. I understand that my post might be perceived as though i am. Please take the post on face value as i just want to share my experiences with you guys.
     
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  28. Nov 9, 2008
  29. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    That is the reason to stay far, far away from them in the first place. Why go through all the heartache to try and get what is yours in the first place unless you like the drama ?
     
  30. Nov 9, 2008
  31. EasyRhino

    EasyRhino Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Analyst
    Location:
    San Diego
    Most of my experience effectively ended last year, when I had a $5000 win, which is STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING PAID, in $500 installments, slightly slower than once a month. I followed the terms of their various promotions rigorously

    (fingers crossed, in a week or so my balance will be down to $50!)

    So the fact that the casinos pay at all is not a reason to keep them out of the rogue pit when they're balky, incompetent, jerks.

    I wonder if I still have a copy of my chat log where Chris D'angelo was a raging douchebag...
     
  32. Nov 10, 2008
  33. DiamondGeezer

    DiamondGeezer Dormant account PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    Antiques Dealer
    Location:
    NOT Pennsylvania!!!
    It is good that things have gone well for you Lee but the fact they are so shadowy and unregulated means you just can't tell what may happen in the future.
     
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  34. Nov 10, 2008
  35. uungy

    uungy Dormant account PABnononaccred PABnoaccred PABaccred

    Good point. Why can they not sign up with a licensing company like Alderney, or Ecogra. If they did that, I am sure they would be believed they have actually turned a new leaf. Up until then, it makes no sense to play with a casino that believes they can license themselves, and have no-one to answer to, as whats stopping them fall to their lows again?
     

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