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[Rogue] Palace of Chance

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Neo, Nov 5, 2007.

    Nov 5, 2007
  1. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    Hello everybody.
    This is my first post.
    For the first time ever I opened an acount at this online casino,
    because I found this 50 Dollar no deposit bonus from this site:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    (Its the second casino from the list.
    So everything went fine,I gave my details and got the bonus.

    Well,I played all night long through various slots and got now about
    300 Dollars in the bank.
    Now,it say you need to wager 20 times the bonus amount.
    I playd all the time at one dollar stake and I believe to have played
    more than a thousand games.
    My question now is:
    Can I somehow see ,if I qualified for the next step,
    what would be to deposit some real cash into that account,
    so that I can actually withdraw my winnings at any time.
    Actually I think it is only 100 dollar max win,that I am entitled to.
    Please could someone help ?
    I am german by the way and put in the form to play with euros,
    also my bank says it is dollars,I m playing with.
    And has the casino a good reputation ?
    Thank you for helping out.:notworthy
     
  2. Nov 5, 2007
  3. heatherad

    heatherad Senior Member

    Occupation:
    counsellor
    Location:
    Canada
  4. Nov 5, 2007
  5. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    You may be paid, you may not.

    You might want to contact the administrator of the sight you clicked through and ask them why this casino is on their site. When you click through a site like that and create an account, your information is coded. Part of every dollar you lose at that casino in the future goes to that 'affiliate'. (or he gets a certain amount of money simply for 'signing you up')

    From now on your email will be bombarded by Virtual Casinos http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/virtual.php with amazing bonus offers.

    Every time you deposit you will be feeding a rogue affiliate and a rogue casino, and good luck getting your money if you win in the future... it will be games, mind games, delay games, and no pay games should you complain about their operation.

    If you deposit, and hold your mouth just right while standing on one foot on a fullmoon while chewing gum, and the gods are with you, you might get paid. But depositing will be a bigger gamble in the long run than walking away right now with your losses at ZERO.
     
  6. Nov 5, 2007
  7. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    Thats a shame,
    so you think its not worth depositing like 10 euros,play a bit more and
    then try to cash out?
    And not that I am lazy,but could you give me another casinos name,
    where the same rules apply(no deposit,free credits to wager)
    I dont want to spam my pc with all the software to download from various
    casinos.
    I only like to play the bonus slots and have only a 350 megahearts pc,
    so I need to find a casino like this here in my case,where the reels spin
    nicely and not too slow.
     
  8. Nov 5, 2007
  9. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    There have been reports of multiple charges for deposits.

    http://www.casinomeister.com/casinos.php find inetbet, they will give you $10 free to try out a decent casino with the same games that actually pays.

    But if you never plan to deposit, there is no sense in signing up.
     
  10. Nov 5, 2007
  11. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    i am in a live chat with support from casino...
    see what they say...
     
  12. Nov 5, 2007
  13. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    of course I want to play for real.
    Here is what I just got told:
    (in case of not allowed,please delete...)


    ksawai: ok,sorry,i am a bit sceptical,so i can any time cash out now and the money will be put into my bankaccount?
    Javier: it takes 7 to 10 business days
    Javier: for the approval
    Javier: and then 3 to 5 days
    Javier: to be sent
    Javier: and accounting will decide on how to send you the money
    Javier: either check
    Javier: or money transfer
     
  14. Nov 5, 2007
  15. heatherad

    heatherad Senior Member

    Occupation:
    counsellor
    Location:
    Canada
    What they say and what they will actually do are two different things. But miracles do happen and they may just pay you seeing as it would your first cash-out. They might want to make a first good impression :p
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. Nov 5, 2007
  17. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    I played at one of their casinos quite awhile and had a good relationship with the manager.... like an idiot I thought that it would be the same in the others. NOT
    In one I won a random jackpot (several thousand dollars) met the wagering requirements for 10x withdrawal, they later decided I hadn't met the wr (on a $25 depoist and a 3k+ win:what:) I said duff it and blew the balance in a couple of spins (had already met 45x my deposit and bonus combined)

    There was another casino in their group that I always had more deposits than bonuses, palace of chance, I was bored one day and asked for a free chip, I had a great run and played more than four times my wagering requirements before cashing out...... a week later the cashout was denied.. I spun the balance out in one or two spins again vowing never to go back.

    It's your money, do what you wish with it, but don't say we didn't warn you.

    inetbet will never do you wrong. No head games.. a professional and fair operation.
     
    1 person likes this.
  18. Nov 5, 2007
  19. heatherad

    heatherad Senior Member

    Occupation:
    counsellor
    Location:
    Canada
    Club World is another great choice (In my own opinion).
    Live support is excellent, and I've not had a problem with them so far. They are very good to their players.
    As lojo stated, do as you wish....to each their own, warned you were, lol.
     
    1 person likes this.
  20. Nov 5, 2007
  21. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    Hi,
    sorry did you mean
    clubworldcasino or

    clubworldcasinos

    (two pages)
     
  22. Nov 5, 2007
  23. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    I must say, I think, I like the guy...
    also he wants a copy of passport and a utillity letter sent to my adress
    he didnt push me to gamble my winnings...


    log:
    Javier: you will get $100
    Javier: I can give you for that $100 another bonus
    Javier: if you win that is great
    Javier: but if you lose then yopu lost everything
    Javier: is that clear?
    eksawai: thx.OK I try the cashout first.Than I can be confident,that everything works ok and I can then put real money in my acount again
    Javier: ok good to hear

    hope he wont get fired for that...
     
  24. Nov 5, 2007
  25. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    1 person likes this.
  26. Nov 6, 2007
  27. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    I need to open a Netteller account to play anyway,
    so I think there is nothing to loose, if I sent the email
    with copy of passport and the copy of a utillity letter
    sent to my adress.
    Then I ll try and cash out and see,what happens.
    Also the guy said,it would take about 10 days ,
    I think its worth a try.
    Anyway,no real money from my side to be deposited.
    Or can they do anything nasty with my details?
     
  28. Nov 6, 2007
  29. Zodiac

    Zodiac Senior Member PABnorogue PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Europe
    i think that you will get (or better hope :rolleyes: ) the money, but not in 10 days, they means buisness days to approve and another 5 b.days to be send, if all the docs are okay and you can be sure that it will take these long time.

    surely not, except that you are added now with spam also from the other Casinos at their group :D
     
  30. Nov 6, 2007
  31. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Are you actually considering opening an account at a known rogue casino? :what:

    If so, please be advised that your patronage only reinforces their commitment to screw other players over. Don't do it.

    If you run into a problem (which you probably will), there will be nothing you can do. No help - nothing.

    Bitte sein einer Bloedmann nicht!

    There are RTGs here that you can trust:
    http://www.casinomeister.com/casinos.php#rtg
     
  32. Nov 6, 2007
  33. Zodiac

    Zodiac Senior Member PABnorogue PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Europe
    :laugh: :cool:

    no worries Bryan, i'm in contact with Neo via PM and you can sure that i will advise him the correct ;)
     
  34. Dec 15, 2007
  35. Neo

    Neo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self employed
    Location:
    Hamburg
    Palace of Chance

    Am I dreaming?
    I got an email from netteller today,stating,that 100 Dollars have been
    deposited into my account from PoC.
    Remember,I started withdrawal procedures on Nov. 7.th.
    Lots of emails with no luck.
    Then about three days ago,I was told the problem was,
    that they never received my utillity bill and ID.
    (What is bullshit)
    Anyway I send it again and support told me,there is still no attachement,
    and gave me another email adress,at which I sent it again.
    Then next day I called again live support and they told me,that now
    the papers where complete and it would take again about 10 working days,
    befor the money would be send.
    To my surprise,today eventually I am happy owner of 100 dollars in my
    nettelleraccount.

    Strange but true...
    (I never deposited any money )
     
  36. Dec 15, 2007
  37. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom

    ...And neither should you!!!!! If they manage to lure you back with a fat bonus on your first deposit, and many more thereafter, you will be in a no-win situation. The more you lose, the better you will be treated, but start on a winning streak and you will find out WHY they are rogued. They have two evil rules they can use, one is that you will be offered another free chip straight after having played and lost on one. They will gladly credit it, and say nothing, but eventually it will come back to bite you on the ass when they use their rules to void winnings, you took two consecutive free chips, so no payment. Second one is that the amount of bonuses offered are designed to outpace your amount of deposits, this holds EVERYTHING to a max cashout rule, EVEN WHEN YOU PLAY WITHOUR A BONUS. This will cost you several thousand dollars were you to hit a Random Jackpot or Progressive Payout.
    There was a case last year where Palace of Chance voided most of a player's $6000+ Random Jackpot because they had been given more bonuses than deposits over the life of the account. The player hit this with $25 OF HER OWN MONEY, no bonus involved, but was entitled to only $250 of the $6000 win because a lifetime 10x max cashout was applied.
    There is evidence that Palace of Chance fiddled the figures to ensure they showed that bonuses exceeded deposits, but the player was too quick for them and got hold of the "real" figures before they waded in and did their fiddling before wiping all the deposit and withdrawal records in the player client lobby cashier.

    ALL further offer should be ignored, they have invested $100 by paying out to see if they can lure you into depositing. $100 is peanuts to pay out if they can lure thousands of dollars back in deposits because you think they are "OK" because of this Christmas Gesture.

    I expect you are NOT fooled by this, but others seeing this might be.
     
    3 people like this.
  38. Dec 16, 2007
  39. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    i have always been paid and paid on time at palce of chance and at club player. i think imo its up to the player to decide where if they wish to deposit ones own money at. there are plenty of casinos out there that will take your money everyday but if you should find one that you are happy with and they do pay you, whats the harm? should one give up playing at a certain casino that is seen as rogued by some if they are being paid and paid on time? i think its up to the player to decide for themselves.:).....laurie
     
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