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Robbed by robbers with a licens

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Gonzo, Jun 9, 2017.

    Jun 9, 2017
  1. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    First thread here. But been reading here for a couple of months.. Lost 10keuro/60 days. What the fuck is going on with casinos they have just became robbers with a licens,, They games sins 20170101 are totaly different like Gonzos for example so many nearhits so many deadspins how does the provder netent think its okej? Like 2 days ago at finlandia casino deposit and lost 3500euro betsize 4-8 euro not a bonus on all that money. They put me in tilt deposit 1k euro started betting 50eu spins got the frefalls was happy mm now i will have atleast half of my money back.. So wrong soo wrong 350euro win on 10 frefalls 7xbet on Gonzos quest. Then that fucking book of rigged dead no chance to win. Ive been playing slot a long time im not a bad looser i understand sometime u win and most of the time u loose, But what this shit has become ive started to think is this really legal is this really okej to just robb people like this and THAT with a licens`? Wow very easy to get rich that way.. Before or until 2016 i realy enjoyed playin even when i did not win i hade a good timewaste and playtime. Try deposit 100eu it is goone in minutes, I work 2 days for that and they justtake it in minutes. No they really should start thinkin this is really not okej..


    And also the Casinos is so greddy. Verajohn deposit 2k euros in 3 hours asking for a bonus she gave me 10euro bonus? 10 euro bonus haha it was like slaping me on the face.. Yes the provider want us to think like i have read here FOILHAT AND ALL STUFF LIKE THAT so they can laugh at us and steal our money. Its a fakt the games are changed. And the biggest reason for that i netent they have changed all this industry and made it to a shit. Not wonder thay making a profit on 56milion euro in a year. Thanks and sorry i am offensiv but im pissed of
     
  2. Jun 9, 2017
  3. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    ...and every right to be pissed off.

    The industry has got greedy and we, the players have to suffer.

    Things, sadly will only get worse.

    I have never seen so many of these type of threads in such a short space of time since I joined CM over 3 years ago.

    At one time I awaited the "Jon can you not miss just ONE of these threads" and the foil hats been thrown my way.

    Now less and less are saying this and more and more are in agreement, somethings not right as LOTS have noticed/posted/said.

    The only way things would improve is for the Worlds Gamblers to unite, stay strong and rebel, so basically we're stuck with this shite :rolleyes:
     
  4. Jun 9, 2017
  5. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    It would be very funny if netent could come in here and just tell uss what the fuck is going on. And also i feel really sorry for people ho just lowroll on their slots it is just or nost of the time wast of time and money. The only time i made a cashout from netent is when ive been on tilt and higroll like a crazy fucker. And sometime ive had luck and get my money back. i still havent cashed out something this year but no im leaving this shit for now i cant just let them drives ferraris and lamborghinis by robbing me on the hardearned money. I hope more players go the same way and just quit making theese bandits:criminals rich
     
  6. Jun 9, 2017
  7. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

    Occupation:
    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    Since bonus rounds are predetermined, why do slot providers think its okay to make well over half of the bonuses 5x? Like hello here. The games being pumped out take 300-800 spins to hit a bonus and the base game rtp set around 40-60%....

    You want to pay me 5x most times in a bonus round then start making it so im hitting bonuses every 50-100 spins and raise the game rtp.

    Its very easy to study how book of dead plays. Go watch a Canadian battle. 30 entries and 1-4 people usually have an rtp above 100%. The other 29-26 have rtps of 20-65%. Can you imagine how much of a cash cow book of dead, vikings go berzerk and bonanza are for casino's? I bet we would all vomit if we saw the numbers.
     
  8. Jun 9, 2017
  9. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    Can it bee that they maybe know something more than us? I mean more and more country are suspending them. Norway. denmark now holland even sweden is going to do something like holland. They now they are on borrowed time and they just are taking their oppertunity to robb as nuch as they can.
     
  10. Jun 9, 2017
  11. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

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    London
    Yes, you're better off giving it a rest, especially reading that you go on "tilt" to recover money back. That is the road to disaster!

    Take a break for a month or two and go back to the slots. They may start loving you again.
     
  12. Jun 9, 2017
  13. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    Yes the games on they basegame are shittt and it makes u deposit and chase the bonus and when u finally finally get that hard bonus ho maybe costs u 3k euro it pays u 7-10x bet. that is not okej not in my world i am really sik of it.
     
  14. Jun 9, 2017
  15. Mouche12

    Mouche12 Kitty Lover PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABnoaccred

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    Amsterdam
    Well, I both won around 14K over a week or so at Guts back in 2014, and lost 10K in one weekend only at the same outfit, and yes, because I stubbornly stuck to Gonzo (betting $10 a spin) and there were no bonus rounds at all.... my fault entirely though I should have switched to other titles. I was initially very, very lucky with a deposit of 600-700 and thought I could happily continue my winning streak until it came to an abrupt and painful stop...:(

    Only small to medium-sized deposits since then, I've learned my lesson.

    Edited to add: it would be a good idea to play higher RTP games like Bloodsuckers and the Jackhammer slots.
     
  16. Jun 9, 2017
  17. Tropicana50

    Tropicana50 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    England
    Almost a million spins tracked across NetEnt now.. :thumbsup: Results as follows:

    [​IMG]

    - T
     
  18. Jun 9, 2017
  19. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

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    London
    That max bonus win is piss poor. I am guessing not a lot of Dead or Alive is being played then?
     
  20. Jun 9, 2017
  21. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    When i say tilt i never tilt like i dont have money for the rest of the month. I play onley what i afford to loose but this time i realeys its pointless. The best u can get off it that u are waggering your own money and loose. They are rigged 100% and yes they have memory. What casinos ans providers like trancmonkey says is just shit. I mean if they told us what we are seeing self ho would play? and if none playes the lamborghini aventador has no driver anymore
     
  22. Jun 9, 2017
  23. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    London
    How come almost 1,000,000 spins yet only 125 bonuses? Something not right there surely unless I am reading it wrong?
     
  24. Jun 9, 2017
  25. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    Interlog.. That is just discusting if u ask me. But i see it with my own eyes. To trigger a bonus is so fucking hard and the sik thibg is that even if u do ut give u just deadpsins
     
  26. Jun 9, 2017
  27. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    Its two things. One, providers are taking down popular addicting slots and lowering the rtp on them. Play n go did it so I dont know why others are so hell bent on defending that other providers would never do this. Others are doing it, they just arent announcing it like playngo did.

    Secondly, slot providers making slots like the lottery now. A couple lucky people will get a big payout while everyone else will suffer. Rinse and repeat.

    You have people saying it doesnt make sense for a provider to lower an rtp. They dont benefit. Well thats untrue. After speaking to a software provider when I was doing the VGB study he outright told me, that when contracts are negotiated and renegotiated the two top things that casino's will look for is traffic that slot is bringing and returns. If the traffic is high and the casino is making a killing that slot provider will make alot more money per contract then slot providers who are bringing in an average amount of both traffic and revenue.
     
  28. Jun 9, 2017
  29. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

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    Londonia
    What can be said that hasn't been said a thousand times before? There are those that think the games have changed for the worse in the last couple of years, and there are those that defend them to the hilt.

    Bottom line: no software company is ever going to come out and state that our theories are spot-on and pat us on the head. They continue to remain silent, safe in the knowledge that they're legally protected and that gamblers can carry on moaning. It makes no difference, the money keeps rolling in.

    I would like to think it's just bad luck, but the more I see how modern slot design is going confirms how little respect companies have towards their players, and that profit comes above everything else, including fair play.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.<<<< MG Customer Care Dept.
     
  30. Jun 9, 2017
  31. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    He must've been playing Bonanza. :D
     
  32. Jun 9, 2017
  33. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

    Occupation:
    I work :D
    Location:
    Canada
    average bonus win of 24x. ahaha. I dont know if I should laugh or cry.

    Also, after 1 million spins the rtp is 93.7%. Thats pretty bad although could be worse. It sure is funny how its a few percent down from where it should be and not a few percent over. Call me shocked.

    Looks to be his stats.
     
  34. Jun 9, 2017
  35. Gonzo

    Gonzo Abusive troll

    Occupation:
    own company
    Location:
    Sweden
    And also i thing i noticed. When i make a cashout on a site than starts playin other sites the games are totaly dead until i loose what i won and a litllte more. No i know why they are on malta, curucao banna and apples contry The one ho did mess upp this industry is the one and the onley NETENT. the the other after netent
     
  36. Jun 9, 2017
  37. Tropicana50

    Tropicana50 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    England
    You're reading it wrong. The community data is in yellow. All of the other data (in white) is my personal spin information for NetEnt.

    - T
     
  38. Jun 9, 2017
  39. paul7388

    paul7388 Meister Member MM

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    not a lot
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    glasgow scotland
    You are reading it wrong. The 125 bonuses were from the 16000 odd spins with average bonus at about 134 spins. The million spins were community spins and also had average of 115 spins to bonus.
     

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