ATTN: Casino Rep Rizk Race is currently extremely unfair and the same player wins literally every single time.

PetraPool

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Hello. I really love the Rizk Race. But lately, the same person wins every single big-prize rizk race without any exceptions (like well over 10 in a row despite 50+ participants for each race). How? He is playing banned games. I don't know if he's a Rizk Employee or a genius hacker, but he plays games that are basically tailored for Rizk Race (and for that reason are restricted). I'm mainly talking about the game Multi Supreme 81 (restricted everywhere afaik), but also Always Hot Deluxe (works in UK).

Here is an example from the high-prize lunch race from earlier today:

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This is when he enters the top 5. The moment he enters, he always plays one of the 2 games I mentioned above, then he switches to a worse game if he has a good lead, or sticks to Always Hot Deluxe if anyone can compete with him. As you can see, he has only done 154/450 spins. Everyone else has finished or nearly finished their spins, yet he's almost caught up to them already with only a third of his spins used. So what he does next is switch to a worse game (usually Hans and Gretel, Myth or Jingle Spins) and pretends like he played that all along as if he won every single race legit.

It ends up with him not needing to even finish his spins. He did 374 spins (despite playing bad games for a while) and 11180 points, while the 2nd place has finished all their 450 spins at 9160 points (which in itself should be a really good score, but pales in comparison to the unbeatable slots). Players who don't have access to these restricted games stand no chance at all in these races. The only races I do right now are the ones that are restricted to a single game, because Ari is able to win all of the others big-prize ones.

Similar situations have happened in the past for Rizk Race, like X-Mas joker a month ago for example. It's very similar to Multi Supreme 81/Always Hot Deluxe, except everyone could play it. So even though it was boring because you were forced to play it to stand a chance, at least it was fair because everybody had access to it. And it was removed from the race-games almost immediately. Why is the same not being done this time? It's been like 2 weeks of Ari winning every single £130 race, 3 times per day. Either open the games up to everyone, or disable them from races!

I'm going to keep playing the game-specific races until I run out of money, but I'm never depositing on Rizk again if they don't solve this! Surely this isn't how it's going to be, with one person winning it every time because of an unfair advantage? Even though I've only won it twice in the course several months of playing on Rizk, it was still a really cozy and fun morning/lunch/night routine to play the 3 high-prize races until they got sabotaged and "rigged". I have contacted the support twice about this. First one told me to clear cache and cookies to enable the games (which didn't help). The 2nd one just said sorry, gave me some free spins and said that he has nothing to do with this. My friend told me to try out this forum to contact someone higher-up at Rizk to notify them, so that is what I'm doing right now :)

PS: The reason that they're unbeatable is that rizk race is all about win/loss streaks and 10x wins. And in these games, you can choose to gamble every time to keep constant loss streaks, and neither have very high variance so you can accurately channel all your wins into roughly 10-15x for the 300 point bonus, and keep the rest of the spins at constant on-demand loss-streak bonuses. It's literally impossible to beat with a regular slot, no matter how lucky you get or how unlucky he gets.
 

bamberfishcake

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Hi Petra,

I had a similar experience over the course of a few months back and noticed particular players playing the same games and winning regularly so I thought I would try the game to find it not available to UK players, confirmed not available by live chat also and for that, the general races are in favour of those players in those regions. Not once or twice either, I did have around 15 - 20 screenshots which, for me, over the time I checked it, was enough to stop me entering the normal races. I decided not to take it further after mentioning it because, to be honest, i like their service and site and the races didn't mean that much to me anymore. If I race now I do the game specific ones and got to admit Rizk is one of my preferred sites and I only have a few. Sorry didn't mean to hijack your thread but had to back you up as have seen it myself. Think the game was either Jokers Jewels or Jokers Gems, whichever one is unavailable in UK and I wont name the player as wouldn't want to ruin his fun.
 

Broke

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Jul 9, 2009
Location
Finland
Can Swedes still play these? Haven't seen Swedish ppl on leaderboard since december 31th.
 

trancemonkey

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Mar 29, 2013
Location
United Kingdom
Hello. I really love the Rizk Race. But lately, the same person wins every single big-prize rizk race without any exceptions (like well over 10 in a row despite 50+ participants for each race). How? He is playing banned games. I don't know if he's a Rizk Employee or a genius hacker, but he plays games that are basically tailored for Rizk Race (and for that reason are restricted). I'm mainly talking about the game Multi Supreme 81 (restricted everywhere afaik), but also Always Hot Deluxe (works in UK).

Here is an example from the high-prize lunch race from earlier today:

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This is when he enters the top 5. The moment he enters, he always plays one of the 2 games I mentioned above, then he switches to a worse game if he has a good lead, or sticks to Always Hot Deluxe if anyone can compete with him. As you can see, he has only done 154/450 spins. Everyone else has finished or nearly finished their spins, yet he's almost caught up to them already with only a third of his spins used. So what he does next is switch to a worse game (usually Hans and Gretel, Myth or Jingle Spins) and pretends like he played that all along as if he won every single race legit.

It ends up with him not needing to even finish his spins. He did 374 spins (despite playing bad games for a while) and 11180 points, while the 2nd place has finished all their 450 spins at 9160 points (which in itself should be a really good score, but pales in comparison to the unbeatable slots). Players who don't have access to these restricted games stand no chance at all in these races. The only races I do right now are the ones that are restricted to a single game, because Ari is able to win all of the others big-prize ones.

Similar situations have happened in the past for Rizk Race, like X-Mas joker a month ago for example. It's very similar to Multi Supreme 81/Always Hot Deluxe, except everyone could play it. So even though it was boring because you were forced to play it to stand a chance, at least it was fair because everybody had access to it. And it was removed from the race-games almost immediately. Why is the same not being done this time? It's been like 2 weeks of Ari winning every single £130 race, 3 times per day. Either open the games up to everyone, or disable them from races!

I'm going to keep playing the game-specific races until I run out of money, but I'm never depositing on Rizk again if they don't solve this! Surely this isn't how it's going to be, with one person winning it every time because of an unfair advantage? Even though I've only won it twice in the course several months of playing on Rizk, it was still a really cozy and fun morning/lunch/night routine to play the 3 high-prize races until they got sabotaged and "rigged". I have contacted the support twice about this. First one told me to clear cache and cookies to enable the games (which didn't help). The 2nd one just said sorry, gave me some free spins and said that he has nothing to do with this. My friend told me to try out this forum to contact someone higher-up at Rizk to notify them, so that is what I'm doing right now :)

PS: The reason that they're unbeatable is that rizk race is all about win/loss streaks and 10x wins. And in these games, you can choose to gamble every time to keep constant loss streaks, and neither have very high variance so you can accurately channel all your wins into roughly 10-15x for the 300 point bonus, and keep the rest of the spins at constant on-demand loss-streak bonuses. It's literally impossible to beat with a regular slot, no matter how lucky you get or how unlucky he gets.

Sounds like he's found a method to beat the system..
 

PetraPool

Newbie member
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Jan 26, 2019
Location
Sweden
Hi Petra,

I had a similar experience over the course of a few months back and noticed particular players playing the same games and winning regularly so I thought I would try the game to find it not available to UK players, confirmed not available by live chat also and for that, the general races are in favour of those players in those regions. Not once or twice either, I did have around 15 - 20 screenshots which, for me, over the time I checked it, was enough to stop me entering the normal races. I decided not to take it further after mentioning it because, to be honest, i like their service and site and the races didn't mean that much to me anymore. If I race now I do the game specific ones and got to admit Rizk is one of my preferred sites and I only have a few. Sorry didn't mean to hijack your thread but had to back you up as have seen it myself. Think the game was either Jokers Jewels or Jokers Gems, whichever one is unavailable in UK and I wont name the player as wouldn't want to ruin his fun.

I gotcha. The way I see it is that the player playing those games are ruining the fun for everybody else because we are basically fighting for 2nd 3rd 4th 5th place and I think that's unfair. Part of his "strategy" to not have the game banned is to stay 6th place until the current 5th place has capped, and then swoop in and steal the win with a regular slot. So it's extra frustrating to have the run of your life, ready to win the #1 prize, only to have him come in with 3-4 minutes left and undeservedly steal it from you. The only way to win it is to hope that he isn't online, which he almost always is. Who wouldn't be online every time to earn a guaranteed £120 for a few minutes of slots? To be clear, I don't blame him. And I agree, I like Rizk too, but the frustration of the rigged races outweigh the fun right now for me. And like you, I will still play the game-specific races for now, but I'm not making another deposit until this is fixed...
 

bamberfishcake

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Essex
I gotcha. The way I see it is that the player playing those games are ruining the fun for everybody else because we are basically fighting for 2nd 3rd 4th 5th place and I think that's unfair. Part of his "strategy" to not have the game banned is to stay 6th place until the current 5th place has capped, and then swoop in and steal the win with a regular slot. So it's extra frustrating to have the run of your life, ready to win the #1 prize, only to have him come in with 3-4 minutes left and undeservedly steal it from you. The only way to win it is to hope that he isn't online, which he almost always is. Who wouldn't be online every time to earn a guaranteed £120 for a few minutes of slots? To be clear, I don't blame him. And I agree, I like Rizk too, but the frustration of the rigged races outweigh the fun right now for me. And like you, I will still play the game-specific races for now, but I'm not making another deposit until this is fixed...
Hi Petra,

I know it's frustrating and I know I saw the same guy winning on a game I couldn't play for a significant amount of time. I should probably bow out and let the rep answer as to their processes. It could be an automated add of the free spins for races and if the said person is playing alot and speaking to different agents to exchange or whatever other possibility then they may not have flagged it but these places are where you bring queries like this I guess or direct with Rizk, their service I've found is amongst the best.
 

PetraPool

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...and it's spreading. All 3 are playing either Multi Supreme 81 or Always Hot Deluxe. Most others end at around 5-8k points, these all got over 11k.

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So now, users who don't have access to these games fight for 4th and 5th place, period. I guess it's good in a way though, because the more people who play it, the faster they might actually do something about it.
 

Tirilej

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...and it's spreading. All 3 are playing either Multi Supreme 81 or Always Hot Deluxe. Most others end at around 5-8k points, these all got over 11k.

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So now, users who don't have access to these games fight for 4th and 5th place, period. I guess it's good in a way though, because the more people who play it, the faster they might actually do something about it.

This place is a very good place if you want something spread, so the other two maybe just read how to do it in this thread. Smart guys :)
 

PetraPool

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This place is a very good place if you want something spread, so the other two maybe just read how to do it in this thread. Smart guys :)

I hope so :D Spread the word guys! And if you play Rizk, make sure to play these games in the races if you happen to live in one of the few countries that can actually play them!!
 

Sebastian - Rizk

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Hello everyone,

Thank you for bringing this to my attention @PetraPool & @Harry_BKK .

First of all, I would like to mention that when we created the Rizk Race, one of the main goals was to create a fun & fair gaming experience where everyone stands the same chance to win. This is why certain games are restricted from races as players could gain a small edge by playing these games. However, as our portfolio of games is quite big, some games might have slipped into Rizk Race which should not be there. Therefore I will look into the games mentioned (Always Hot Deluxe & Multi Supreme 81) with our casino team and see if we should remove them. I will keep you updated here in this thread. :)
 

PetraPool

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Jan 26, 2019
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Sweden
Hello everyone,

Thank you for bringing this to my attention @PetraPool & @Harry_BKK .

First of all, I would like to mention that when we created the Rizk Race, one of the main goals was to create a fun & fair gaming experience where everyone stands the same chance to win. This is why certain games are restricted from races as players could gain a small edge by playing these games. However, as our portfolio of games is quite big, some games might have slipped into Rizk Race which should not be there. Therefore I will look into the games mentioned (Always Hot Deluxe & Multi Supreme 81) with our casino team and see if we should remove them. I will keep you updated here in this thread. :)
Yaaaay!! Thank you so much ♥ ♥ ♥
 

Scott1baird

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Hello everyone,

Thank you for bringing this to my attention @PetraPool & @Harry_BKK .

First of all, I would like to mention that when we created the Rizk Race, one of the main goals was to create a fun & fair gaming experience where everyone stands the same chance to win. This is why certain games are restricted from races as players could gain a small edge by playing these games. However, as our portfolio of games is quite big, some games might have slipped into Rizk Race which should not be there. Therefore I will look into the games mentioned (Always Hot Deluxe & Multi Supreme 81) with our casino team and see if we should remove them. I will keep you updated here in this thread. :)
If its giving a player a totally unfair advantage then it should be removed at once as its unethical of RIZK to promote these races, all races should be of the same games available to all players. It can't be that hard to work out. PSS I dont play at RIZK.
 

Broke

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TBH, value-wise Petra already shot herself and other Rizk racers in the foot, by inviting tons of new players to play the Rizk races - and all this just to teach one player a lesson. This is why we can't have nice things.
 

Tirilej

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TBH, value-wise Petra already shot herself and other Rizk racers in the foot, by inviting tons of new players to play the Rizk races - and all this just to teach one player a lesson. This is why we can't have nice things.

I believe she did it to make it fair to everyone. I also don't think she mind if there are more players trying. Why would she? Maybe that will give higher prizes and more people who win in each battle.
 

Sebastian - Rizk

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Hi,

We have now excluded the games Always Hot Deluxe & Multi Supreme 81 from Rizk Races. Previously they were available for play in races which had All race games as category. Some races include all race games (found in the Race games category here:
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), whereas other races are for a specific game, such as the two main races with bigger prize pools.

For the record, I do not think Petra did anything wrong here. We really want these races to be fair and fun for everyone. Any feedback regarding Rizk Race is more than welcome :)
 

PetraPool

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TBH, value-wise Petra already shot herself and other Rizk racers in the foot, by inviting tons of new players to play the Rizk races - and all this just to teach one player a lesson. This is why we can't have nice things.
I'm not shooting myself in the foot. I don't mind more players playing or my chances of winning being reduced as long as it is fair!! Even if a million people joined the Rizk Races I would have 0.0000001% chance of winning, that's still higher than the stone cold ZERO that I had with Always Hot Deluxe and Multi Supreme 81 being available to some users.
 

PetraPool

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Sweden
Hi,

We have now excluded the games Always Hot Deluxe & Multi Supreme 81 from Rizk Races. Previously they were available for play in races which had All race games as category. Some races include all race games (found in the Race games category here:
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), whereas other races are for a specific game, such as the two main races with bigger prize pools.

For the record, I do not think Petra did anything wrong here. We really want these races to be fair and fun for everyone. Any feedback regarding Rizk Race is more than welcome :)

Thank you a lot for removing those games! I finally did morning race again earlier today and... Ari won again. He's now playing "African Simba" by greentube (same that makes Always Hot Deluxe). I think all of greentube & merkur (same that makes Multi Supreme 81) games have the gamble feature which means that you can control your loss streaks 100% and make sure that all your wins get the 300-point bonus. So if I could ask for one last favour, it would just be to consider making green tube & merkur games unavailable for Rizk Race since the gamble feature makes you unstoppable. And I can't play them myself either to compete with him because all of green tubes and merkurs games are restricted in Sweden (and probably a lot of other countries) :(

Thanks again for removing the other 2, it was impressive how fast it happened!
 

SpinUk

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Ari’s reading these posts with dread haha. Why not just exclude him from playing the races? He’s not exactly playing fair and creating loads of work for the Rizk team.
 

Gaz237

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Ari’s reading these posts with dread haha. Why not just exclude him from playing the races? He’s not exactly playing fair and creating loads of work for the Rizk team.

Well he is playing fair, in the fact he is not breaking any of the race rules.

Can't say I blame him for exploiting an advantage, that Risk missed.

He is going to be gutted when the gravy train crashes.
 
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