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So I opened an account at Rizk, purely due to the fact I thought 21Casino had reduced their RTPs (It turned out they hadn't it was an error)

Anyway made a few modest deposits, played slots several evenings, had a nice couple of wins and after the month I am ahead by £365, and £58 still in the balance.

I have provided my ID and verification, did that before my 1st deposit.

However, I have been given a monthly loss limit of £130, which I asked to be increased a week back, no reply.

And as of yesterday, because I had the audacity to play for 3 hrs 17 mins, and after midnight and apparently at "high stakes" my account is locked.

For the record my highest bet since I opened my account is 60p.

Anyway, if this sums up online gaming in 2021, its in a very sad place. Screen Shot 03-31-21 at 10.12 AM.JPG Screen Shot 03-31-21 at 10.07 AM.JPG
 

Lemon

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This is an unfortunate side-effect of the UKGC's heavy-handedness - every casino is shitting themselves at getting ridiculous fines for not performing due-diligence on its players, so they're being over-cautious to ridiculous extremes. I don't blame the casinos one bit, but it's incredibly frustrating.

I understand the need for new measures as gambling moves into a mostly digital landscape, but the UKGC are completely fucking it up. They'll be taxing tuppence-ha'penny at this rate as the players look elsewhere.
 

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Anyway, if this sums up online gaming in 2021, its in a very sad place.
My advice - get out while you can. Since Rizk got bought out by Betsson things went down in a MAJOR way.

My account was locked for SOW in January - I supplied the documents they asked for several times over a 2 month period - but they never replied and my account remained locked.

Their last request is below:

Hi Mark,
We trust this e-mail finds you well.
In your source of wealth you declared full-time self-employment, therefore in order to verify your income & reinstate your account, we need additional documents as explained hereunder.

If you're self-employed as a sub-contractor, kindly send in the following:
1.) An income statement / tax form / P60 (PDF format) for the financial year starting 01.04.2020 to date, showing all your personal details & all your annual income details.
2.) Your most recent Payslip / Invoice (PDF format) for the past February 2021, showing all your personal details, salary / payment details & the company you're sub-contacted with.
3.) A recent full monthly bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.02.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your personal details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the salary / payment corresponding with February 2021's payslip / invoice.

If you're a self-employed business owner, kindly send in the following:
1.) A certificate (PDF format), showing all your personal details, the business name & proof of business ownership
2.) A business financial statement (PDF format) for the financial year starting 01.04.2020 to date, showing all the company's income details.​
3.) A personal annual income statement / tax form / P60 (PDF format) for the financial year starting 01.04.2020 to date, showing all your personal details, business details & all your annual income details.
4.) A business bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.01.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all the company's details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with outgoing transactions directed to your personal bank account.
5.) A personal bank statement (PDF format) for the same period 01.01.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your personal details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the corresponding outgoing transactions visible on your business account, being credited to your personal account.

If you're simply full-time employed, kindly send in the following:
1.) A recent payslip (PDF format) for the past February 2021, showing all your details, employer's details & salary details clearly visible.​
2.) A recent bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.02.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the same net salary corresponding with February 2021's payslip, being credited to your account from your employer.

If you're currently unemployed, kindly confirm if you're currently receiving unemployment benefits either from the government or form any other private benefits scheme. If so, please send in the following:
1.) A benefits certificate (PDF format) showing all your details, the details for the regular body issuing these benefits, the weekly/fortnightly/monthly benefit amounts & the starting & ending period in which you're entitled for these benefits.
2.) A recent bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.02.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the corresponding amounts visible in the benefits certificate, being credited to your account from the same regular body.
Your privacy is taken very seriously, and you can rest assured we will only use the requested data for compliance purposes. Your documents will be treated with the highest degree of confidence, and we will process and store them according to the requirements of the General Data Protection Regulation and in line with our Privacy Notice.

Thank you in advance for your understanding. Please reply to this email or contact our customer support team, should you have any questions.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Player Safety Team
Rizk Team
Well I don't fit into any of those categories - I am a self-employed casino affiliate, but not a registered company.
I sent them a screenshot of my bank statement and my tax return, but I simply do not have any of the other documentation they are asking for - so I told them to just close my account.

It's a complete farce! :mad:

KK
 

spoo42

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I deposited to Rizk a few days ago, only a small deposit as usual (usually i deposit in small £10's just for a bit of low rolling and playtime).

Ive deposited £160 in the last 6 months , and after i deposited this last £10 , as soon as it went through, I got a popup message asking for more information - I was given 2 days before Im essentially blocked from playing or doing anything (which has now happened), and i can barely access menus and look at account details or such due to the constant popup.

My account was fully verified, and for the little amount I spend there, I'm not sending in any source of funds or pay related details. I used to like Rizk and i understand certain things relating to Ukgc etc making things harder for casinos - but this is a bit over the top for me, and i wont be playing there any further sadly.
 

deepsky2

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I will refuse to supply any of this SOW ill just stop playing at any casino that ask for it. 12 years at 32red I closed with out a thought and will do with other casinos if comes to it. We don't have those silly rules in Canada but again we only have a few online casinos but looks like the government is going to allow more regulated casinos so we should have more choices in near future. I will miss playing at UK regulated casinos but to be honest most are over regulated and lower RTP etc the fun is slowly being sucked out then you get a casino like Rizk stocking you because your playing past midnight..fs were not grade schoolers and besides if Rizk thinks playing past midnight is a concern then don't have your casino run 24/7. Think about Rizk is there monkeys running your casino?
 

colinsunderland

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My advice - get out while you can. Since Rizk got bought out by Betsson things went down in a MAJOR way.

My account was locked for SOW in January - I supplied the documents they asked for several times over a 2 month period - but they never replied and my account remained locked.

Their last request is below:

Hi Mark,
We trust this e-mail finds you well.
In your source of wealth you declared full-time self-employment, therefore in order to verify your income & reinstate your account, we need additional documents as explained hereunder.

If you're self-employed as a sub-contractor, kindly send in the following:
1.) An income statement / tax form / P60 (PDF format) for the financial year starting 01.04.2020 to date, showing all your personal details & all your annual income details.
2.) Your most recent Payslip / Invoice (PDF format) for the past February 2021, showing all your personal details, salary / payment details & the company you're sub-contacted with.
3.) A recent full monthly bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.02.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your personal details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the salary / payment corresponding with February 2021's payslip / invoice.

If you're a self-employed business owner, kindly send in the following:
1.) A certificate (PDF format), showing all your personal details, the business name & proof of business ownership
2.) A business financial statement (PDF format) for the financial year starting 01.04.2020 to date, showing all the company's income details.​
3.) A personal annual income statement / tax form / P60 (PDF format) for the financial year starting 01.04.2020 to date, showing all your personal details, business details & all your annual income details.
4.) A business bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.01.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all the company's details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with outgoing transactions directed to your personal bank account.
5.) A personal bank statement (PDF format) for the same period 01.01.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your personal details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the corresponding outgoing transactions visible on your business account, being credited to your personal account.

If you're simply full-time employed, kindly send in the following:
1.) A recent payslip (PDF format) for the past February 2021, showing all your details, employer's details & salary details clearly visible.​
2.) A recent bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.02.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the same net salary corresponding with February 2021's payslip, being credited to your account from your employer.

If you're currently unemployed, kindly confirm if you're currently receiving unemployment benefits either from the government or form any other private benefits scheme. If so, please send in the following:
1.) A benefits certificate (PDF format) showing all your details, the details for the regular body issuing these benefits, the weekly/fortnightly/monthly benefit amounts & the starting & ending period in which you're entitled for these benefits.
2.) A recent bank statement (PDF format) for the period 01.02.2021 - 28.02.2021, showing all your details, bank details, unfiltered transactions & balances clearly visible, together with the corresponding amounts visible in the benefits certificate, being credited to your account from the same regular body.
Your privacy is taken very seriously, and you can rest assured we will only use the requested data for compliance purposes. Your documents will be treated with the highest degree of confidence, and we will process and store them according to the requirements of the General Data Protection Regulation and in line with our Privacy Notice.

Thank you in advance for your understanding. Please reply to this email or contact our customer support team, should you have any questions.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Player Safety Team
Rizk Team
Well I don't fit into any of those categories - I am a self-employed casino affiliate, but not a registered company.
I sent them a screenshot of my bank statement and my tax return, but I simply do not have any of the other documentation they are asking for - so I told them to just close my account.

It's a complete farce! :mad:

KK
I got one a few months ago, which wasn't close to as intrusive as that, and told them to close my account instantly.
As usual they don't have a clue what they are talking about. If you are self employed you wouldn't have a P60, plus I'm sure they aren't issued yet, so how could you supply one for the dates requested? From memory they have to be issued by the end of May don't they?

A benefits certificate in PDF format? The only one I've ever seen issued in PDF is housing benefit, and that varies by local authority.
Most benefits don't have an end date, PIP does in certain circumstances, like a short term award or a tribunal award, but other than that they either don't have an end date or have a review date.

Maybe @Betsson-Group could explain why they are asking for documents that would be impossible to provide? Is that so you can scam people by saying they haven't provided something that doesn't exist?
 

dealer wins

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My SOW would be difficult. I have been a full time sports trader and arber for the last 18 years. It has allowed me a £30K a year lifestyle and amassed over £400K in savings/investments/float. But I cant prove a penny of it as income lol

Even showing Guts my ISA portfolio of over £200K wasnt good enough
 

Mouse75

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Nov 16, 2018
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Southport
I was a happy Rizk customer prior to December - for at least two years. I even recommended them on one of the RTP nerfing posts.

In December they asked me for SOW as i had hit a hidden total deposit limit apparently. I understand peoples frustrations with this, however as a former problem gambler I am all in favour of SENSIBLE precautions. If the bookies and arcades had this in place when the randoms and FOBT's were first introduced many peoples lives (Mine included) would be significantly different.

This happened on Xmas Eve - so understandably it did take three or four days to put in place verification - during which time - at my request they manually paid out by account balance - Good service.

They sat deposit limits of 25% of my income a month, Loss limit of 10% of income. I actually think this is ok.

All went well for Jan and Feb, and in Feb off a £50 deposit, i made a decent chunk - withdrawing over £350.
At one point though - my deposits were blocked - with no reason given.

I queried this with CS - and five days later received a generic email advising responsible gaming team had decided i was ok to deposit again - no reason offered as to why blocked in 1st place.

since then I have deposited £20 twice (also after midnight UK time). Not that this is ANY of their business - but this was after a huge win on another site - which didnt have Moon princess and I just really fancied playing it!

The day after - depositing blocked - although they have not had the courtesy to tell me why!

Nosying around on my account - the loss limit has been dropped to 3% of my monthly income!!!!! I haven't been told of this either.

Feels like they are just deliberately driving UK players away.

TBH. I have no intention of going back to them - far more trouble than its worth.

And as for high stakes?? Their software is so fucked up - you get a "warning" after a huge win of an unusually large bet being PLACED. They are clueless. I was playing House of Doom 2 - on min stakes - 20p - for 40 minutes. Hit over £300 on free spins - to get this "large bet placed warning" Same thing happened when I hit 400x on something by Pragmatic - again on min stake.

RIZK - if you are reading this - FFS get your act together!!!

For the record - i happily have deposit limits set on all my accounts - and I allow myself a monthly loss budget. If I use this up, then I put time outs on all sites. Surely they should be able to respect people managing accounts sensibly. Obviously if i have some good sessions - I might spend a little longer - surely normal. I mean I have deposited a tenner on Sky - and still been playing 5 0r 6 hours later - with a balance that has never gone over £20. This is not irresponsible - so the three hour comment is also a joke.

Bye Rizk - I'm just so glad that my last few sessions (bar one) where good for me not you!
 

souldragon

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Oh well, their loss, I have moved on. At least unibet allow me to place £1000 bets, and have a £300 slots blowout over xmas eve without any nanny state BS.
I think forum members should make posts like this of casinos they play at where they have not had all these bullshit experiences on Source of Wealth. For me it is Sky Vegas where i have deposited and withdrawn thousands without even the need for KYC,let alone SoW.Then with luck,outfits like Rizk will lose customers in droves which is what will hit them the hardest.
 

dealer wins

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my £57.99 is back, at least their withdrawal process is quick looooool

Apart from unibet and 21Casino, is there any other casino that serves the UK market that has full RTPs? Dont care about any bonus, just want to be able to play slots without a load of BS and a reasonable chance of winning every now and then.
 

pinnit2014

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If they're so concerned about folk playing after midnight why don't they just flick the off switch at 12am on their site and back on again when someone comes in at 8am? It's a bit like your partner going 'and where are YOU going at THIS time of the night!':laugh:

RTP - Novibet still run full; think places like Casumo have some on higher like PNG, but No Limit not so much (wouldn't play there if you don't want a SOW for farting after 12am though)
 

colinsunderland

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my £57.99 is back, at least their withdrawal process is quick looooool

Apart from unibet and 21Casino, is there any other casino that serves the UK market that has full RTPs? Dont care about any bonus, just want to be able to play slots without a load of BS and a reasonable chance of winning every now and then.
Novibet, all the other WHG group casinos. Bet365 used to but haven't been on for ages so not sure about now.
 

Mouse75

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I think forum members should make posts like this of casinos they play at where they have not had all these bullshit experiences on Source of Wealth. For me it is Sky Vegas where i have deposited and withdrawn thousands without even the need for KYC,let alone SoW.Then with luck,outfits like Rizk will lose customers in droves which is what will hit them the hardest.

My Will Hill account - has seen literally hundreds of thousands sterling play through. I was a winning poker player for years. Ive never needed to give them KYC or SOW. Used to me by first choice. However the nerfed RTP's mean no more!
 

colinsunderland

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According to the online resources I have checked, Rizk casino is considered to be a safe place to spend your money. At the same time, a friend of mine described Rizk casino as being a shady casino that will tell you that you were automatically verified, then as soon as you have made a deposit, they will block your account and make it impossible to get your money back.
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a good business model for any casino.
 
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