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River Belle not paying $8,000.00

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by ok2playme, Mar 3, 2007.

    Mar 30, 2007
  1. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

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    Business Owner
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    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises

    Johnny,

    I don't ask you to show me your hand do please don't ask me to show mine. Can I sit at a poker table and tell you I am just curious and want to see your hand? I think not! I will never tell anyone except my WIFE what I play, how I play and how much I play. Can tell you this - still playing so must not be doing too bad! River Belle has been a very GOOD hitting casino for me. Over the long run - years - I am sure I am behind. I don't chase losses. You have your budget and I have mine. Right now I am way ahead. Its like a piggy bank for me. More often than not I at least get my money back in the form of big hits over time. In the long run slots are losers any fool can tell you that! However, I have been very LUCKY with some big hits! Its my outlet to relax from life in general. After these latest issues it will be land based only. Yes I get perks for being a VIP as I am sure you do with poker. I am actually surprised that someone who wins as much as you do would think $500.00 perk is a lot of money!
     
  2. Mar 30, 2007
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Good news - fingers crossed -

    I've just gotten off the phone with Bellerock, and they have informed me that they've secured a new ACH processor. Players should start seeing funds hit their accounts within the next 24-48 hours.

    Now I'm outta here - bye!
     
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  4. Mar 30, 2007
  5. johnnyvegass

    johnnyvegass Banned User - multiple forum accounts - violation

    Occupation:
    gambling
    Location:
    Ohio
    Quote " Yes I get perks for being a VIP as I am sure you do with poker. I am actually surprised that someone who wins as much as you do would think $500.00 perk is a lot of money!"

    I dont think its alot of money at all, but i know my mother plays on there and she gets some perks too, and i have friends that play on there as well and spend ALOT of money, maybe thousands a month, and even they never got a 500 dollar complimentary bonus for a mishap on the casinos end. Hey, good for u, turn it into something! So what are your favorite games on there out of curiosity? I have a strategy on there that seems to work very well, i'll put in 50 bucks, and play spring break or thunderstruck and try to make my way to about 150-200 bucks. If i reach that, off to video poker i go, best odds on any online casino with the exception of Craps,blackjack and baccaratt. I once hit 2 royals in 1 nite, for a grand total of 31,500 dollars. How much did i start with that nite? 50 bucks. It was just one of those nights, i got on a hot joker poker run and played a few hands for 10 bucks and wham, royal for $10,000. cashed out 9500 then said screw it ill play 10 a hand on aces and faces,,,,well i got 4 aces then bumped it to 25 dollars a hand,,,,,5 minutes later i got a royal for 20k.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2007
  7. johnnyvegass

    johnnyvegass Banned User - multiple forum accounts - violation

    Occupation:
    gambling
    Location:
    Ohio
    ?

    How does this differ from anything they have told us in the past? I too called today and they told me it could be next wednesday till the funds hit. That makes no sense because the processor they are using sent me a check, they dont do ACH. Its a load of BS, they are going to pay no doubt, but they are stalling to give it time before we get our checks in the mail
     
  8. Mar 30, 2007
  9. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

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    Business Owner
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    Pittsburgh,PA
    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises

    To close this - my last $10K hit started with $100.00. I play two favorites and get it up! If I can get it over $1,000.00 I then go to my next mutli-line and play .02 to .05 per line and hope for big hits. If I am over $2,000.00 I let it ride with heavy max credits on Dueces and Jokers. I just have to hit big and serveral times in a row to get a roll going. When I play recklessly and don't want the headache of trying to get paid. I play .10 per line which is the most I have ever played.
     
  10. Mar 30, 2007
  11. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Important difference

    There is one important difference, if they have "lied", they have done so directly to the Casinomeister, and this puts their accredited status on the line as well as their reputation with US players.
    Certainly, the inconsistency is there, they have a new processor and expect funds to hit in 48 hours. That's funny, because last time they said that there had to be a 10-15 day hold for "due dilligence". Clearly both can't be right for the procedure of getting a new processor. However, it will only be a wait till next Wednesday before we all know if this latest promise was true.
     
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  12. Mar 30, 2007
  13. johnnyvegass

    johnnyvegass Banned User - multiple forum accounts - violation

    Occupation:
    gambling
    Location:
    Ohio
    Trust me this last promise will not be true just like the previous 5 promises. I am surprised casinomeister doesnt know this processor will not send money ACH. All they do is send checks from some german based bank. If u missed it in an earlier thread, i play on ultimate bet and they send me checks all the time and the check i got from riverbelle last week was the same processor that ultimate bet uses, they DONT send money ACH. The checks will start coming, its just a matter of time when they will. Dont count on looking at your bank account online and seeing the money hit, UNLESS they once again switched processors in the last day or 2.
     
  14. Mar 30, 2007
  15. LRDell

    LRDell Experienced Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    Finance
    Location:
    East Coast, USA
    Now coming in increments!

    I was told today by Tas (a 'VIP' account executive) that all the pending payments were going to be coming via ACH starting today, but would be paid out in increments over the next several business days. She did not know the reason for the incremental payments

    We'll see. Mine is only $2500, so it is small compared to many who are waiting.

    I have had good success with having payments from BelleRock made to Click2Pay and then having it wired to my bank acount (must be over $1500, though).
     
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  16. Mar 30, 2007
  17. johnnyvegass

    johnnyvegass Banned User - multiple forum accounts - violation

    Occupation:
    gambling
    Location:
    Ohio

    Bwahahahahhahhahah! Yea, and i have an iceberg for sale up near the north pole, anyone interested?:confused:
     
  18. Mar 30, 2007
  19. FRENCHIE

    FRENCHIE Dormant account

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    GOLDEN PALACE

    least you might get yours by wednesday i still haven't heard anything about mine from golden palace been waiting since jan 15:mad:
     
  20. Mar 30, 2007
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Not a big problem

    This should not be a big problem, it may even be helpful in keeping under the banking radar for the bigger transactions. The downside is the need to watch as it trickles in day by day, wondering if and when the banks will rumble this scheme before all the money is paid over.
     
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  22. Apr 1, 2007
  23. Vortran007

    Vortran007 Casinomeister Robot - Security chief Staff Member

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  24. Apr 2, 2007
  25. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    Pittsburgh,PA
    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises

    Well after being promised my $8,000.00 withdrawal since 02/11/07 (51 days) numerous times via ACH and then most recently River Belle requested wire information and said my wire WAS performed on 03/28/07 on still no monies in hand. Hello........it does NOT take 6 days to do or receive a WIRE!! In addition I can't get any details on my second withdrawal of 03/19/07 (15 days). I was promised by casino management Elgara that he would call me Friday evening. To my great disappointment that call never came! This is now the email I receive after another broken promise! I have lost count of how many broken promises River Belle has made. Where are the regulatory agents????????




    Hi there Charles,

    Thank you for e-mailing Belle Rock Entertainment.

    We do apologize that you were not contacted back regarding your withdrawal matters. The Team Leader who assisted you is currently off and therefore no correspondence was made.



    We can confirm that our Payment Center processed all outstanding withdrawals across the casino. Your payment has been processed via ACH and you will be seeing multiple amounts posting to your bank account in staggered increments over the next few days until all outstanding monies have been successfully received.



    We thank you for your continued patience.

    Should you require any further assistance, feel free to contact us, we are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    Kind regards,

    Zahida
    Senior Customer Services Representative
     
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  26. Apr 2, 2007
  27. johnnyvegass

    johnnyvegass Banned User - multiple forum accounts - violation

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    Charles,, enough already my friend

    Its really becoming nauseating reading your countdown day after day on here. There is no need to let everyone know how many days have passed since u have not gotten paid, everyone is in the same boat. They sent me a check a week ago for 1900 dollars and still owe me 2700. I thought they were going to pay out the remainder but appearantly thats not the case. I have moved on, realizing that they simply arent going to cater to USA players anymore, and bitching and whining certainly isnt goin to help, NOR you emailing them and calling them every single day. You are not helping the situation, u are hurting the situation and its people that constantly complain, call and email, that will eventually lead them to just say screw it, we arent paying them, no more USA players. I know i would have done that already. Give it up, find a new hobby. I suggest Texas Holdem! :thumbsup:
     
  28. Apr 2, 2007
  29. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

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    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises - 2nd withdrawal issues on 03/19/07


    :lolup: First and foremost I thought you are suspended? Your politics are rude. All you want to do is knock slots but my your own admittance your mother plays. Guess you are knocking her also. When you first got on you said this was not the best watchdog site so why do you stay and keep posting? As far as being nausiated take an alka selzer. You know plop plop fizz fizz oh what a relief it is! And QUIT doing things that make you nausiated! I will post what I want and I ask that you NOT read my posts. Personally I don't think I am the only once sick and tired of your crap. All forum members please thank this post if you think Johnny should mellow out on his rude politics.
     
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  30. Apr 2, 2007
  31. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

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    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises - 2nd withdrawal issues on 03/19/07

    :eek: In addition, I don't email nor call them every single day. Did not know you had my email account nor my phone records. As for hurting the US players what more hurt can there be when you go and post the exact processor they are using. Its like telling the DOJ here we are come and shut the pipeline down. I will not move on until I get everything that is due me. PS - I don't hear that fizz...................................
     
  32. Apr 2, 2007
  33. johnnyvegass

    johnnyvegass Banned User - multiple forum accounts - violation

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    Ohio
    *yaaaaawn*:lolup: Kid, act like an adult please. I just cant stand snotty nosed whining kids, thats all, no offense
     
  34. Apr 2, 2007
  35. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Publicity

    While certain posters do not like constant complaints, this is often the only way to get some casino to "pull their finger out". The failure to return a call as promised just because a "team leader" was away for the day is NOT what a professional business should be even considering as a valid excuse, unless there is only one employee dealing with all BelleRock enquiries. This was a TEAM LEADER, as in TEAM, as in someone else should step in when one team member becomes unavailable.

    If we recall the Mini Vegas case, the rep admitted that the group only paid some members after "pressure from the general gaming community". Had these players been patient and not posted I expect they would still be waiting.
    The pressure on BelleRock and other MG casinos has not hastened payment, but it has certainly shown that they are currently unable to guarantee payment of withdrawals, but are happy to continue taking deposits. I expect they hoped to work behind the scenes with processors, while not wanting to restrict inbound deposits by mentioning how hard it had really become to process payments.
    All US players who frequent the forum now know what the casino are having to do to get the payments through, and how risky this process is of being constantly disrupted, such as changing processors every month, going to great lengths to make payments look like nothing to do with internet gaming etc.
     
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  36. Apr 2, 2007
  37. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

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    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises - 2nd withdrawal issues on 03/19/07

    Thank you Vinyl,

    What concerns me is River Belle made a public post on 03/07/07 stating all withdrawals from that date on would be fine. They have not posted since then. With that being said it should be known that my second withdrawal of 03/19/07 should be paid via ACH between 2-21 business days. This means my second withdrawal of $10K should be paid between 03/21/07 and 04/16/07 at the very latest. While speaking with River Belle Elgara (team manager)told me that withdrawal would be coming in form of a check from Vietnam! However, since then I have received the above River Belle email which now states various ACH's. What is puzzling is whether this applies to the first withdrawal only or if it is for any and all withdrawals per River Belle despite their public post.
     
  38. Apr 2, 2007
  39. ok2playme

    ok2playme Dormant account

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    River Belle not paid $8,000.00 broken promises


    You just can't help yourself. All you do is keep going through the forum and bashing everyone and everything you can. Your politics are completely off and don't belong in this forum!:notworthy
     

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