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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by blascocomo, Nov 24, 2005.

    Nov 24, 2005
  1. blascocomo

    blascocomo Dormant account

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    Can you make me a list of casinos where you can play bonus without playing your deposit?
    Like willhill...
     
  2. Nov 24, 2005
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    You can look, but I'm sure you won't find many....IMO you're just asking for trouble...there was a thread just recently where a guy got a bonus, tried to cash out his original deposit after playing the bonus, and got screwed from it. Casinos are just looking for a reason to target someone for bonus abuse.. but to each their own :) hint: You could do some digging here, click on search and put in "risk free" to get a start.
     
  4. Nov 24, 2005
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    No!
    Take a risk - you might win a biggie! :D
     
  6. Nov 24, 2005
  7. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Yea really. Isn't no-risk and gambling an oxymoron? As they always say, if it's too good to be true, it usually is. Beware if you do find any of these "risk-free" casino bonuses. I'm sure they'll make you jump through hoops to cash out, if you're so lucky.
     
  8. Nov 24, 2005
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    The only "risk free" bonus is no bonus. There are always stipulations to any incentive.
     
  10. Nov 24, 2005
  11. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    when i started gambling online i was attracted by the bonuses offered by the cryptos, not so much through that i could play "risk free" but through the knowledge i could withdraw anytime i needed.

    but after while i got so infuriated with their BJ, that i ended depositing at each casino one month, put the whole bonus on one hand, i dont need to tell anyone here i didnt win any of the hands.

    totally unsporting of me i know, but i wanted to make sure i had a high WR that i would never need to return to them, because they are very attractive to play at, thats till you actually play there.
     
  12. Nov 24, 2005
  13. Slotmachine

    Slotmachine Dormant account

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    OK, you're saying that Crypto BJ is not random, i.e. they are cheating criminals. Let's see the proof. I'm sort of tired seeing this "their BJ/video poker is rigged" crap

    I mostly play without bonuses, but I do take advantage of the monthly match bonuses (crazy not to I'd say). It reduces the house edge, that's what the bonus does.

    I mostly play slots so I can't even begin to analyze whether the slots are tighter with a bonus or not, but for argument's sake let's say they feel tighter. What it means is that they'd a) be NOT random, ie cheating criminals b) they'd have a different reel configuration for the bonus players, kinda seems unlikely eh

    Think about what you're saying. If you REALLY believe this, why do you even play at any online casino?? Makes no sense.

    I don't know bout the rogue operators and the less trustworthy software, but I see no reason why a reputable operator (say, 32Red;) ) running reputable software (say, MG;) ) would cheat me when they have a guaranteed 5% house edge overall?? And jeopardize their whole business and risk being prosecuted??? It's a ridiculous idea.

    ...extend that thought to Crypto and Intercasino - seems equally ridiculous that they'd cheat.

    Let's see some proof on that BJ, oh and run it by the Wizard before you post it here, yeah?

    Cheers,
    SM
     
  14. Nov 24, 2005
  15. schnozzy

    schnozzy Dormant account

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    I'll fall over dead of shock if one of the accusors produced statistically significant evidence to back their assertions.

    Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to blame the casino than it is to analyze how much risk you actually took, and accept responsibility if luck was not at your side.

    When I've played poker, the same accusation was made constantly. It usually meant that the player played poorly, and over their bankroll.
     
  16. Nov 24, 2005
  17. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account

    As usual, a good post by Kasino King. My message also, to the original poster, is not to take advantage of this so-called "risk-free" bonus just because you can. Give the casino a fair gamble with your money. They don't have to offer bonuses, we are lucky that they do. Three years ago they were giving money away. Now it's not quite that simple.

    Give the casino a fair play with your money, as long as it's a casino that plays fairly with us players.

    Have some juevos rancheros. Gamble up! :thumbsup: :D
     
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  18. Nov 25, 2005
  19. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    Re

    I always felt it played better when I had a bonus, lol But that is more likely that I make bigger bets when playing with a bonus most times.

    Reality, I do not see a difference with or without a bonus and Ive been playing a long time.

    Ama
     
  20. Nov 25, 2005
  21. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    yesterday evening i was playing at an MG, i played low stakes to start with so i could qualify for the bonus, after being credited the bonus i stuck the whole bonus on one hand and this happens.

    i dont need the wizard or a load PWC reports to tell me that online BJ is fair, when i see incredible hands like this happen time after time i know there is something that isnt quite right.

    no doubt the usual arguments will come, "if you play enough hands blah,blah ", well that is a fair enough argument if your autoplaying through a 100,000's of hands, but in my case that was a manually played decent stake hand and the odds of that happening are about 400,000-1 which would mean i would have to play about 20,000,000 worth of BJ to even have a chance of generating that hand ( i dont think so!!). a feat which is even more incredible since i only just started taking screenshots of these happenings.

    and in true style it was the first hand after increasing my stake.
     
  22. Nov 25, 2005
  23. Slotmachine

    Slotmachine Dormant account

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    :eek: That definitely sucks. An incredible hand. Not impossible though, just unlikely. Somone's gotta get it. In another thread I posed the question, if you think MG BJ is rigged, why on Earth keep playing it????:confused:

    Cheers
    SM
     
  24. Nov 25, 2005
  25. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    i was going to answer you in the other thread, but since you have asked me twice here i respond here instead.

    i dont play BJ nowadays without a bonus, i use to a lot but not anymore.

    as regarding the rigged, it all depends on the defintion of rigged, say if you went in a casino and were dealt 50 losing hands on the trot and then 50 winnings hand on the trot, quite rightly you would think something is up. however that result is in line with what you would expect house edge wise.

    this is the same with these cards online, i have no doubt that overall the game plays to its edge, and if i was ever to collate my results i'm sure i would prove the same thing. This is the common argument of the "online BJ is fair" brigade, so i dont doubt the house edge is what it says it is, however i do dispute that the way they are dealt is truly random.
     
  26. Nov 25, 2005
  27. blascocomo

    blascocomo Dormant account

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    ok i know that sometimes play without bonus is better but i just asked for some casinos that have this type of bonus...there'ssomeone that know someone or not? :)
     
  28. Nov 25, 2005
  29. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    That is a very good definition of what I also think happens at a lot of casinos :thumbsup:

    Just about impossible to prove though. :(

    I'm far from a Blackjack expert, but I find it extremely unlikely that the odds of a player 14 getting beaten by a dealer 21, starting from a 7 is really 400,000-1! :what:

    I don't see the fact that all the cards are 7's is that significant.
    Would you be less pissed-off if you had 10-4 and got beat by 7-8-6?
     
  30. Nov 25, 2005
  31. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    the 7's are significant as they make up the perfect combination, i.e. 7+7+7=21

    the odds calcuated are those of being dealt five 7's in a row, i.e. 13^5

    i have no doubt in my mind that theoretically equally possible hand 88v888 (hence dealer bust, i win!!) is dealt far less often than the situation i encountered here.
     

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