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[goatwack]

So casinos are hosting illegal Aliens now??

Wait 'til The Guardian hear about this!

 

[Boris85]

Losing kicked in when I was bb'ed pretty much everywhere, reason being already mentioned in this post.[/QUOTE]

Agreed but..... it’s a big “BUT” - Depends how much you’re aiming for !

 

[Jono777]

Losing kicked in when I was bb'ed pretty much everywhere, reason being already mentioned in this post.

Agreed but..... it’s a big “BUT” - Depends how much you’re aiming for ![/QUOTE]

Never greedy but my 'tactic' is too much to go into here really.

Long story short, small bets, change game regular, 5x deposit, pull 50% out, rinse/repeat

 

[zreb]

Losing kicked in when I was bb'ed pretty much everywhere, reason being already mentioned in this post.

Agreed but..... it’s a big “BUT” - Depends how much you’re aiming for !

Never greedy but my 'tactic' is too much to go into here really.

Long story short, small bets, change game regular, 5x deposit, pull 50% out, rinse/repeat

Constantly change games? Must be a bonus abuser.
Play the same game too much? Must be a bonus abuser.
Make bets that are too small? Must be a bonus abuser.
Make bets that are too big? Must be a bonus abuser.
Cash out after a small win? Must be a bonus abuser.
Play for a big win? Must be a bonus abuser.

I'm pretty sure there's no rational process behind half the bonus rules casinos make, it's just "somebody won once playing this game somewhere and so now all casinos ban this behavior."

Banning a game like immortal romance makes absolutely no sense, unless your goal is to intentionally catch people making an error and decide afterwards whether or not to confiscate all the winnings. I'm sure many other games on the list are just as silly.

As I've commented elsewhere on here before, casinos constantly ban games like roulette and craps even though there's no need to when there's max bet rules and they only count like 10% for wagering - but casinos keep those rules on the books for years and years anyway. Because people used those games to win against bonuses in like 2006.

You'd think with the amount of money some of these casinos churn through they could afford to pay someone who understands how these games work, why certain rules are there, and why some rules are completely unnecessary. But no, it's just "wait until someone wins big and then overreact."

 

[SpinUk]

This is not a shill post I 100% promise you, but I stumbled upon Royalslots the other day.

It was like going back 5 years.

UKGC licensed, decent providers with the usual suspects, Reasonable wagering of 40xB only, no win cap, tiny game limitations for bonus games (Pearls of India, Wishmaster etc), staggered bonuses sequently on the first 4 deposits 100%/50%/25%/25%. Early withdrawal in cash territory allowed with no amalgamation to bonus.

If they can do it and (presumably) remain profitable then why can’t others?

 

[anddi32]

Welcome bonus WR 50x d+ b and max. cashout 6x deposit amount. wtf? What has happened to Ikibu monkey? Seriously those terms are just because new players. And casino knows they will get easy money because there is a lot of newbie players who just don't understand to read t&c.
And this place is listed as "accredited casino" here?

You CM really should check this title again.

 

[goatwack]

Some of these casinos will have you believe that they're going through hardship, are making no money and are surviving through our charitable donations

Then say they're only in it for the love of the industry, most probably

 

[SpinUk]

Welcome bonus WR 50x d+ b and max. cashout 6x deposit amount. wtf? What has happened to Ikibu monkey? Seriously those terms are just because new players. And casino knows they will get easy money because there is a lot of newbie players who just don't understand to read t&c.
And this place is listed as "accredited casino" here?

You CM really should check this title again.

The 6x deposit win cap literally makes it pointless playing there with a bonus. And if that's the case, why reward them with cash deposits. No thanks.

 

[Tirilej]

The 6x deposit win cap literally makes it pointless playing there with a bonus. And if that's the case, why reward them with cash deposits. No thanks.

No, I think uk have 3x max cashout, but if you don't touch the bonus you can cash out whenever you want as usual. The rest of us in the world have to make the wagering so we can cash out the double. Wow

 

[merlinslair]

Lol yes I as.the same one oviously not taken but they seem to be on another planet

 

[Nate]

So casinos are hosting illegal Aliens now??

Wait 'til The Guardian hear about this!

Once the Guardian get hold of it and alert the UKGC, you will now be requested to provide a statement of bond repayments or building plans as proof of address...

Those damn Aliens.

Nate

 

[nikantw]

I think the regulated markets ask each casino to pay 1m - 200m per country per year.
That wasn't the case 10 years ago. One way or the other, players pay for this.

 

[lockinlove]

I hope this isnt the way the industry is heading again. Getting more and more greedy. There have been alot of new casinos coming out now with wager being 40x deposit and 40x bonus.

Casinomax
caddell 35x+35x on the welcome atleast not after
viral interactive casinos

I mean 40x wager is pretty high. 50x is just too high. Now all these casinos going 60x and above and now 80x? Man oh man.

Im also starting to see alot of max cashout of 10x the bonus and 1k max cashouts being released too.

 

[SpinUk]

I hope this isnt the way the industry is heading again. Getting more and more greedy. There have been alot of new casinos coming out now with wager being 40x deposit and 40x bonus.

Casinomax
caddell 35x+35x on the welcome atleast not after
viral interactive casinos

I mean 40x wager is pretty high. 50x is just too high. Now all these casinos going 60x and above and now 80x? Man oh man.

Im also starting to see alot of max cashout of 10x the bonus and 1k max cashouts being released too.

The win cap is the most worrying. And we see so-called player friendly affiliates here still promoting these casinos “oh but its a second chance bonus”.

Fine - Imagine playing a high variance slot, losing 1000x or so stake in the process of multiple sessions and then hitting a big win when you have just gone into bonus territory. Which will inevitably happen sooner or later. No thanks.

 

[goatwack]

It makes me cringe how anyone could endorse severely-capped bonuses with a straight face

 

[lockinlove]

The win cap is the most worrying. And we see so-called player friendly affiliates here still promoting these casinos “oh but its a second chance bonus”.

Fine - Imagine playing a high variance slot, losing 1000x or so stake in the process of multiple sessions and then hitting a big win when you have just gone into bonus territory. Which will inevitably happen sooner or later. No thanks.

Yep some of them promote max 5x cashouts. Progressplay brands. Terrible to see that.

 

[pinnit2014]

Best I have seen is Viks’ x2?

Anyone have a x1 max cash out?

 

[goatwack]

I await the day of beating 65x wagering not for 2x cashouts, not even 1x.....

..but to have your winnings converted into virtual coins to spend on demo slots!

Maybe buy some avatars with different outfits & customization too

 

[SpinUk]

Yep some of them promote max 5x cashouts. Progressplay brands. Terrible to see that.

For me - I would rather play straight cash than risk a max 5x cashout if I hit big. Some people have no scruples when it comes to money.

 

[brianmon]

Just received this from Ikibu...


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90xB WR What are these promotions people on??

I know the bonus rules for UK players have changed, and some members are saying that it's just the casinos covering themselves because of those changes.

But what about the likes of LeoVegas, Betat, SlottyVegas, MrGreen, to name but a few
They have always had this 'new' bonus structure?
They've survived for years with a reasonable 30xB - 40xB WR, and no max win clauses, and AFAIK haven't made any increases or changes, since the new rules

So far, I've had the same text message EVERY DAY since Saturday. So they must be pretty desperate for business

 

[Slottery]

I know the bonus rules for UK players have changed, and some members are saying that it's just the casinos covering themselves because of those changes.

That's BS excuse, these "non-sticky" or "2nd chance" bonuses are actually cheaper for casinos than these where deposit is attached to bonus until wagered. This way how bonus rules are now, if player manage to win with own money and forfeit bonus, casino don't have a dime of bonus costs but player have played only with own money like whole bonus wouldn't be existing. That's fact and and very poor as excuse if any casino is explaining bigger WR:s with that.

 

[snorky510238]

So far, I've had the same text message EVERY DAY since Saturday. So they must be pretty desperate for business

Yeah me too. I also had another email from a casino I used to play at regularly until lately. Their standard offer was always min deposit £20 and 50% bonus wagering x35. Now it’s min deposit of £50 with 25 free spins at 75x wager and 25% bonus at x90 wager. It just shows how things are changing quickly and not for the better as far as players are concerned. It’s almost impossible to find a bonus worth taking nowadays. With the increased tax coming along aswell casinos are going to tighten up even further. The future is not orange.

 

[Slottery]

If i can guess, these might be some smaller casinos or casinos who are not doing very well as these kind of offers sounds desperate.... Many casinos still are offering decent reload bonuses without crazy WR and restricted games..... And as in earlier post, if any casino try to explain that these "non-sticky" bonuses cause that terms have to be more strict is giving very BS answer just to cover that casino just want to make it nearly impossible to get decent wins with their bonuses.