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Richard Dawkins & Ricky Gervais on Religion

Discussion in 'The Attic' started by Balthazar, Dec 18, 2012.

    Dec 18, 2012
  1. Balthazar

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    Pretty good discussion IMO

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  3. Casinomeister

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    I'm a big Dawkins fan. He's brilliant - love his books.
     
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  5. Sovietsky

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    Also a Dawkins fan here haven't read his books but seen alot of debates with him.
    James Randi is also a really cool guy.
     
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  7. Casinomeister

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    Must reads:
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    As for Randi - I'm a subscriber of Skeptics magazine where "The Great Randi" contributes regularly. :D
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  9. Sovietsky

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    I have watched God delusion on youtube and right now im watching magic of reality.

    When it comes to skepticism I try to watch as much as possible on youtube like skepticon or the amazing meeting on yt.
     
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  11. ksb11

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    Dawkins is brilliant within his field of expertise, terrible philosopher, his points concerning God are emotionally loaded and carry no intellectual weight.
     
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  13. Mouche12

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    If I may offer some counterweight to these atheists theories in the form of The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and its Scientific Pretensions by David Berlinski.

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    In brief:

    • Has anyone provided a proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close.
    • Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close.
    • Have the sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close.
    • Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough.
    • Has rationalism in moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough.
    • Has secularism in the terrible twentieth century been a force for good? Not even close to being close.
    • Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy of thought and opinion within the sciences? Close enough.
    • Does anything in the sciences or in their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even ballpark.
    • Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.
     
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  15. Casinomeister

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    Well, then here are three books for your Christmas reading list :D:

    The Grand Design: by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow You must register/login in order to see the link.
    The Universe Next Door: Twelve Mind-blowing Ideas from the Cutting Edge of Science by Marcus Chown You must register/login in order to see the link.
    God is not Great: Richard Hitchens You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  17. Mousey

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    Good reading and viewing there folks, thanks...

    And may I also toss in a recommendation for the You must register/login in order to see the link.. Sadly, I let all my skeptics mags subscriptions run out a few years ago (way too pricey) but there's great reading at both the Skeptic and Skeptical Inquirer online.
     

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