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Republican cuts funding for problem Gambling

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by lots0, Mar 6, 2011.

    Mar 6, 2011
  1. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

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    In Nevada the new Republican Govonor has decided to cut funding for the states Problem Gambling program...

    In Nevada they help create the problem and now the Republican Govonor wants to end the program to help problem gamblers... Who cares about problem gamblers anyway? Sure not the Republican Govonor of Nevada.

    What a guy, a career politico... Who has earned his money from gambling all his life... Now wants leave problem gamblers out on the street with no where to go... but jail... or the grave yard.


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  2. Mar 7, 2011
  3. slotplayer

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    thats too bad, but isn't Navada in rough shape? I think they have a high unemployment rate and the housing market is pretty weak also.
     
  4. Mar 7, 2011
  5. greasemonkey

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    Thats exactly correct slotsplayer. If you want somebody to be angry at, Lots0 then look no further than Harry Reid and his policies. That should make you PLENTY angry.
     
  6. Mar 7, 2011
  7. lots0

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    Normally I would agree, but Nevada makes 87% of their states total income from gambling.

    The uber rich in Nevada get a free pass as far as taxes go... justified, so far because of the gambling income the state receives.

    Guys Like Wynn and Adelson and the rest of the casino owners pay virtually no personal income taxes in Nevada and they literally make Billions every year. The casino corporations pay a pittance in state taxes compared to other business in Nevada.

    But, you can't raise taxes on the uber rich in America and you can't can't raise taxes on the casinos in Nevada...

    So the Republican Gov decides to cut a program that helps thousands of problem gamblers that Nevada helps to create every year.

    How irresponsible, help to create a problem, then shove the problem off on other states to deal with. Those problem gamblers are gonna need help or someone is going to have to pay the costs... And there are costs associated with problem gambling... big ones.
     
  8. Mar 7, 2011
  9. slotplayer

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    1/3 down on the huffingpost site is a funny Jon Stewart on Foxnews.
    Those that lean right might not like it, the liberal base certainly will. I just thought it was funny.

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  10. Mar 7, 2011
  11. lots0

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    I would also like to add that it has been proven over time that acting proactivly on gambling addiction saves the state money in the long run.

    Police, Courts and Jails costs in Nevada were all drastically reduced when this program was first started and the program kept going for decades not only because it helped people... it was cost effective.
     
  12. Mar 7, 2011
  13. lots0

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    Not really funny, imo, kinda sad actually that we have allowed the news media to stoop to this level.

    Our Founding Fathers knew that in order to keep free we needed an honest and independant Press(News Media). We no longer have that in America...
     
  14. Mar 7, 2011
  15. slotplayer

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    case in point
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  16. Mar 7, 2011
  17. greasemonkey

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    See, Lots0, this is where we aren't anywhere close to seeing things the same way. Allow me to explain.

    I see people's money as their own. It is their personal property. It would appear as though you see people's money as partially yours... or a big pot that we all share from. The reason it appears that way is that you and liberals/socialists in general, seem to think of ways to spend other people's money. You want to take peoples money and spend it on different programs... such as gambling addiction. Why not set up a non-profit organization, since you believe in the cause so greatly, and solicit donations? Cures against cancer, relay for life, girl scouts, churches.... they all do this and they don't expect the govt. to confiscate one person's money and give it to the next. Why do you even care about a govt. program not being funded? That simply means that the govt is spending too much in other areas and needs to contract in size and scope. That doesn't mean that you can't still help. You surely can, but you are going to have to earn it now. Instead of having people's money taken from them you are going to have to ask them for it. And you are going to have to sell things and do events to raise money for whatever cause you see fit. Actually put your time and effort into earning that money.
    That is the best way to see what programs are needed. I see that you are an affiliate of some sort. Surely you wouldn't want me to tell you that you need to give me a big chunk of your income because I spend my paycheck on gambling last week and you are responsible since you promote it... would you? Would you really think that fair? Of course not.
    I am in total belief that I have a civic duty and responsibility. I do a lot to keep that up also. However, my money is not part of a pool that liberals can dream up ways to take and spend. It is mine and i will decide how to spend or where to give it. Liberals are really big time givers, so long as it is with other people's money that they worked for. I think many of the programs that people get so wrapped up in should actually be charities. Surely, with the state that Harry Reid has Nevada in, you cannot expect them to magically come up with more money for pet programs. people need to be self dependent. Wynn never put a gun to someone's temple and demanded that they gamble. They gambled. They need to deal with it and stop. I applaud any efforts to help problem gamblers. As for my money, I would rather give to other charities of MY choosing.
     
  18. Mar 8, 2011
  19. lots0

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    The relationship between Jefferson and Adams was somethin else...
    It still kind of gives me the creeps that they both died on the same day, our countries fifth birthday... July 4th... and Adams last words were reportedly about Jefferson...

    I have heard the story about the hatchet man before.
    It kills me to think there was a "Karl Rove" like figure in our countries beginning. But dirty politics are a fact of life and history.
     
  20. Mar 8, 2011
  21. slotplayer

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    I know so odd that they died on the same day and the 4th to boot. That John Adams series by HBO was excellent. Its wierd I never liked history in grade school but love it now. The History channel is great to. Anyone have the Bio channel? I was thinking of getting it.
     
  22. Apr 14, 2011
  23. felicie

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    The problem might be with the particular program. Like so many other govt. programs, they don't accomplish what they set out to but just keep operating and spending more. You go ahead and pay for all these programs lots0 and while you're at it, remember to pay for all the people Obama wants to return to school. It's a free country, you have the right to pay for it and I should have the right to say no. Are you aware that every single citizen in the whole United States, children included, would have to pay $45,000 bucks each right now to cover the deficit? So Jelsmith's unborn baby gets slapped twice - once to breathe and the other to pay up. That's who we're shoving it off to and that's not right and it's got to stop.
     
  24. Apr 16, 2011
  25. jod5413

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    I totally agree. Now all we have to do is............what???
     
  26. Apr 16, 2011
  27. lots0

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    Actually the program was very successful, according to everyone involved, the police, the courts, the casinos and even the residents of Nevada directly benefited from the program.

    Not all government programs don't work...
     
  28. Apr 16, 2011
  29. felicie

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    You got a few hours? days? lol ok then. For starters, have you ever helped an 18 yr. old with an overdrawn checking acct. and a brand new credit card? I'll assume yes. You sit down with them and say ok where's that budget plan you set up when you bought your truck 6 months ago? huh? I helped you, it was on the yellow pad, you made a file. No it's not in my files. Because I didn't buy the truck. Go look. Get the yellow pad. sigh... Let me see your bank statement. Well go get it out of your truck. sigh.... This is for October, 3 months ago and it's not balanced. When's the last time you balanced your checkbook? Never mind just write down on this side how much you bring home each month. Now list your expenditures. Huh? That's what you pay out every month. Rent, food, utilities, truck payment, maintenance, gas insurance, yes clothes and shoes sigh....what's that big amount? Miscellaneous? Like what? Yes it is my business you came to me for help. Well there's one big problem right there. What? You're paying out more than you're bringing in. Dump that misc. amount and you might be able to survive each month. Go get another yellow pad and more pencils. Cryings not gonna solve anything. lol Bless my dad's heart.

    Gotta quit bitchin and start somewhere and I bet if Donald Trump runs for President that's one of the first things he'd want to do. Maybe I would vote for him. I'm certainly not going to sit around and wait for the fall of capitalism.
     
  30. Apr 16, 2011
  31. greasemonkey

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    Then take the initiative and raise the money privately like any other charity should. good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
     
  32. Apr 16, 2011
  33. lots0

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    How is it a 'charity" when it is a direct byproduct of the states most profitable business??

    That makes it the states business, not a charity.

    The program directly benefits the people of the state. The only reason for cutting the program is some radical political agenda, where a few radicals want to show everyone that they don't care about the welfare of the people they are supposed to serve.
     
  34. Apr 16, 2011
  35. greasemonkey

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    So the Government causes addictive gamblers, hence the Govt should take private money from citizens and allocate it to these people that they turned into addicts of gambling?

    I thought that the casinos were privately owned and that people were not forced to go into them. If that is the case and I am correct then it is not the states business.

    It is a private matter and as I said before, if people really care about an issue like this then why don't they get off of their dead backsides and go raise the money for it rather than hope that the govt. just confiscates other people's personal property for it. You want to see how really important a "cause" like this is? Then force those that want funding for it so much to go raise the funds themselves. Get donations, bake sales, car washes...etc. If you really think it important than do something for yourself instead of try to rob your neighbor of his assets. If you don't have money to donate then donate time to raise money.

    If you are appalled that this specific program was cut then I am appalled that you don't do something about it. you don't need govt to interfere and take other's money. Just raise the money yourself if you believe in the cause. Otherwise your complaint is mute and you don't care about it enough to do something other than complain and try to get the govt to do charity's work.

    Most Govt programs SHOULD be done by charities and not the forceful confiscation of private property that somebody EARNED.
     

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