Refilliates Casino Group has new owners

gagamel

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I played with them yesterday and I`m not too much impressed.

Bonus termes are from another planet, 350% bonus has a WR of 100 D+B and a win cap.

I made a deposit of 25 and CS told me I can have 100% Cashback without any WR. That sounded fair. Tried my luck, lost my deposit, took the CB and cashed out 32.

Now I wait for the money going back into my Neteller account. Can take up to 18 days:eek:.

AFAIK Dieter has a new business running, so I hope this guy will come back soon.

Cheers
 

gagamel

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OK, I asked CS at Casholot about Tropica. Remember, both were part of the Refilliates Group which was sold.

Here is the CS statement:

20 : 03 : 09 (system): Agent Mia has joined the chat.
20 : 03 : 12 (Mia): Hello there, how are you ?
20 : 04 : 15 (Me): Hi. Tropicacasino went down. Can you please tell me why?
20 : 04 : 08 (Mia): I have no idea
20 : 07 : 33 (Me): Tropica is operating under the same company as Casholot. I have an open withdrawal with Tropica. Do they come back soon?
20 : 13 : 42 (Me): Mia?
20 : 13 : 43 (Mia): I don't know Tropica
20 : 15 : 48 (Me): Thank you Mia

Fishy business in my opinion. Both Casinos are surely not strong enough to stand alone. Why sell them seperately?
All Casinos are surely sold to one new owner.
 

gagamel

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OK, Tropica is now online. But I can`t say that I will ever play with these guys.

Be careful

Cheers
 

Harry_BKK

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To be honest I wouldn't care if all Rival casinos went down. The number of rogues Rival just let grow on their platform, the amount of money they cheated out of players, their ridiculous terms, the endless wait for them to process a withdrawal..... list not complete. .... just not worthy to deposit 1 cent, let alone 1$.

Admittedly, Dieter was somewhat the saving grace for Rival but 1 semi-good group among 100's rogues doesn’t make it much better.
 

spintee

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I think somebody is talking rubbish in chat, They would not of been sold of in singles, Of course they have heard of tropica, Even if they was sold of individual they still would of heard of the site, Its just common sense with theses criminals,

Like Harry pointed out ridiculous terms Thats a light way of putting them, 100x D&B that puts casava in good standing order with there 50x D&B

Dieter did try there best but I think thats the only good thing that ever come from that group
 

gagamel

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OK, received my WD after 3 days.

The new owners are Cyberrock Entertainments. All their casinos are black listed by ThePogg.

Be careful

Cheers
 

spintee

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OK, received my WD after 3 days.

The new owners are Cyberrock Entertainments. All their casinos are black listed by ThePogg.

Be careful

Cheers

Great stuff, 3 days is good for them, Do you reckon the cloaked the post ? :)
 

ThePOGG

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I've held off on saying anything about this as it's not my information to share, but players would probably do well to consider most Rival casinos to be owned by CyberRock these days (same group that runs BestPay Partners - Play2Win, SupremePlay etc etc). They've been buying up Rival casinos like crazy. I also have reason to believe that CyberRock are partially owned by a group that may hold a stake in Rival themselves and that this group may be tied to another now defunct group that ran on another US facing platform. I'm intentionally being vague here and won't give further details so don't ask. There are plenty of good sleuths at CM so I'm sure if I'm right they'll turn up something sooner or later.
 

Googobucs

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Thanks Gargamel for starting this thread. I had no idea that Dieter was no longer involved with them. I have not played in a while because of deposit changes. Was thinking of trying the new deposit method but now I wont waste my time. Rival has great games but awful service. Dieter was the ONLY reason I played that these place.
 

hoff1985

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yep dieter told me too a while ago that it's in the process to be sold, now it happened... wouldn't touch them anymore. The refilliates group was one of the very few reputable rival casinos.

you van try slots capital they are accredited too (deckmedia) i used to play there in he past but once withdrawals took longer and longer i stopped...
 

gagamel

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And here is the good part about the new Refilliate owners:

You win 6 Euros and no more spam from these bollocks. Great:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

gagamel

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I don`t think so.

Seems like this group has a lot of money to buy a lot of Casinos.

I`m pretty sure that Dieter knew who bought his Casinos, because he said that he would never sold it when he has known that it would run this way. I hope you understand my english:)

However, RIVAL is now like a dead horse for me, I will give it a try with Videoslots (Scary Rich and the old classics) but nowhere else.

Cheers
 

Redbush54

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andy at agd posted this today........

Hey guys,

I spoke with BestPay. I do not know what Dieter did (or didn't) know, but BestPay purchased the casinos for their database. They did not purchase to keep the casinos running. Affiliates who have owed commissions for the last month of operation will need to contact BestPay at: support@bestpaypartners.net. They ARE willing to work with you. If you would like, please CC me on the email and I will make sure that responses are prompt (Andy AT affiliateguarddog.com).

Sorry for the bad news, at least there is a path forward.

Too bad the email that they gave him for payments is bouncing.
 

spintee

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Too bad the email that they gave him for payments is bouncing.[/QUOTE]
andy at agd posted this today........

[QUOTEHey guys,

I spoke with BestPay. I do not know what Dieter did (or didn't) know, but BestPay purchased the casinos for their database. They did not purchase to keep the casinos running. Affiliates who have owed commissions for the last month of operation will need to contact BestPay at: support@bestpaypartners.net. They ARE willing to work with you. If you would like, please CC me on the email and I will make sure that responses are prompt (Andy AT affiliateguarddog.com).

Sorry for the bad news, at least there is a path forward]



Thats some of the biggest bullshit I have head, as 1st of the email is not working, 2nd only purchased for there data base? complete bull shit as I will put money on that no one bought casino's for a data base as theses pricks sell them for a few quid any way, 3d of no one will be willing to work with any one unless your willing to stick a few quid up to buy a casino (database)
There he biggest pile of rubbish that has come n the casino market, I will go back to the title, & NOT NEW OWNERS all they done is took control of casion's that no one had controll of in the first place
 
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