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    Dec 30, 2004
  1. WillHillRigged

    WillHillRigged Dormant account

    Location:
    uk
    Ok Completly fuc*** off with online roulette, covering red numbers and look at red 32's black run............it's totally out of order how they continue to rip us off. It is not a fair game, not gambling just a blatent rip.
    I do not mind losing I just want fair play, if you back red you will NEVER see a run of 8 reds in your favour but time and time again you will see a run against you of 9/10/11 numbers. It's a con, a complete rip.........what can we do
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  2. Dec 30, 2004
  3. 555YY

    555YY Dormant account

    Occupation:
    "":".."|
    Location:
    PA
    we can stop making inane posts
     
  4. Dec 30, 2004
  5. WillHillRigged

    WillHillRigged Dormant account

    Location:
    uk
    hmmm, can you explain why it is inane, do you love losing?
     
  6. Dec 30, 2004
  7. 555YY

    555YY Dormant account

    Occupation:
    "":".."|
    Location:
    PA
    if you feel that strongly online is rigged, then you probably should just stop playing online forever and just goto land casinos

    does some draws and losing streaks seem very suspicious? sure

    i hit a losing streak and was down 7000$ at one point earlier in the week

    but that's just the way game runs sometimes, the reason i'm not too terribly upset about it is that i'm still an overall winner in terms of online gambling

    you're probably playing beyond the limits of your bankroll.

    like poker, online gambling is all about your overall money management
     
  8. Dec 30, 2004
  9. toofast4u

    toofast4u Dormant account

    If I even start to feel the hint of games being rigged I leave and I don't come back. This is why right now i just plain don't feel comfortable gambling online, period. I just recent had a bad run with RTG casinos, and they used to at least seem like they were decent, but I guess they changed sofware adn now they are up to their old tricks.

    It seems like damn near every online casino is like this, when the odds seem astronomically in the houses favor, its just funny.
     
  10. Dec 31, 2004
  11. Clayman

    Clayman Dormant account

    Location:
    Pennsylvania, USA
    Well, posting a complete record of your play would be a nice start before you go around smearing the rep of a very good casino.
     
  12. Dec 31, 2004
  13. eek

    eek Dormant account

    When it was busy a few years back I learned that you could make cash if you faded the guy putting the bigger money on stuff at roulette.
    i.e. He puts 30 on red you put 10 on black and one on zero
    There's not really enough roulette players left for that now tho, they're all um...gone. :D

    Even Lasseters got some screwey roulette results, a bloke called Valhel did some serious roulette play and posted at WOL if you want some info.
    If you do a search his early posts are fine, but in his later posts he had totally flipped his lid at online roulette. :D
    (he had losses of about 150k)

    There are a few live dealer places on the net, you might find the randomness a bit more random at those places.
     
  14. Dec 31, 2004
  15. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Dear WillHillRigged,

    Please let me know what exactly is the issue here. Are you complaining about 32Red or Red32 (what you named the thread), or Microgaming software? If you are referring to the casino - please PM the casino rep (as per the posting policies).

    This is not a "bash whomever and say whatever we want to say" sort of forum. Complaints are taken in earnest; accusations of cheating software are amongst them. Also, you need to make yourself clear and concise if you want anyone to take your postings seriously. I have no idea what you are trying to say.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2004
  16. Dec 31, 2004
  17. Petunia

    Petunia Dormant account

    *We can learn to play the game properly, we can learn not to make the same mistake twice, we can learn to accept our losses and move on to another game... IMHO. *
     
  18. Dec 31, 2004
  19. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    I saw twelve consecutive red spins on the Vegas strip, more than I've ever seen at an online casino. I'm sure that's not even close to a record. I don't think anyone was betting big on black, not that I could see anyway, but I was two tables down so someone might have been quietly drowing their sorrows in a cocktail glass :D

    I've played a good deal of online roulette at 32RED during an experiment me and a few mates did a couple of months back. Being an online newbie, I asked the question about the odds and was told it's about as legitimate as it gets. After playing a few thousand through with wins and losses - I agree, and I'm convinced it's absolutely fair and random. Moreover, regardless of how you feel about Microgaming software, 32RED are the last people on this earth you'd ever accuse of ripping a player off.

    It's a real pain when you hit a bad streak, and easy to shout that it's not fair. The truth is often much more simple and honest though, with bad runs at the wheel/table/machine hitting all of us every now and again!!! That's gambling, and roulette is the absolute epitome of the best and worst of this hobby we all enjoy so much!!
     
  20. Dec 31, 2004
  21. eek

    eek Dormant account

    You can still play for fun and entertainment and practice, but if you're looking to hit the bigtime with online casinos....few are chosen, and even fewer get paid. :D

    Grinding out bonuses seems to work for some. :)
    Or you can get a system like Bethug/Cipher/Pirate :notworthy
     
  22. Dec 31, 2004
  23. Freudian

    Freudian Dormant account

    Location:
    europe
    I feel confident in 32red and the integrity of their games.

    I think the above post illustrates two things.

    a) The bad casino operators behaviour creating problems for the good casino owners by creating a deep rooted feeling of distrust from many players. And often with good cause.

    b) Many players are deeply ignorant about probability. Even a 'normal' bad run is interpreted as certain evidence that the casino is rigged.

    I don't know if we should take posts from a guy calling himself WillHillRigged seriously.
     
  24. Jan 1, 2005
  25. eek

    eek Dormant account

    WillHill (sterling) used to be a great place to play.
    You could log on anytime you wanted to and there was loads of multiplayer activity at BJ Roulette etc.

    The place is a ghost town now with only a player or two.

    Folks aint dumb.
    Even if they flipped the switch to genuinely random, huge numbers of players are now in the category of 'once bitten twice shy'.

    The truegambler project could have injected new life into the industry with proper third party verification, but it died a rather convenient death.

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    once the ecasino industry achieves a system of proper independent third party verification of randomness it will go mainstream.
    Until then, it will drift in the doldrums on the edge of mass gambler participation.
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2005

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