Red Dog - Seriously! Even in tournament mode!

kimss

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Sorry can't help it! Anyone played Red Dog at 3dice casino? Even in tournament mode, which is free, is apparent! Play it, play minimum bet for 5 times, switch to max bet 5 times, switch to minimum bet 5 times, max bet 5 times, minimum 5 times, max 5 times...

Do this 10-15 times and respond to my post! I have a few beers now, I have noticed and by the way wanted to write about this for a week, however I couldn't help myself now since it was just to obvious!

I just saw my luck switch 10 times in a row, and every times not in my faviour! It's old news, but haha! HAHA!

It's free money, I do not care, thanks to christmas eve 3dice is the only casino I infact made money one in my lifetime (hence why I am terrified in depositing there), but seing the tournament go this way every time (!!) the last weeks I just had to write.

So tell me, how does your Red Dog cards work high low? LOL
 

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Sorry can't help it! Anyone played Red Dog at 3dice casino? Even in tournament mode, which is free, is apparent! Play it, play minimum bet for 5 times, switch to max bet 5 times, switch to minimum bet 5 times, max bet 5 times, minimum 5 times, max 5 times...

Do this 10-15 times and respond to my post! I have a few beers now, I have noticed and by the way wanted to write about this for a week, however I couldn't help myself now since it was just to obvious!

I just saw my luck switch 10 times in a row, and every times not in my faviour! It's old news, but haha! HAHA!

It's free money, I do not care, thanks to christmas eve 3dice is the only casino I infact made money one in my lifetime (hence why I am terrified in depositing there), but seing the tournament go this way every time (!!) the last weeks I just had to write.

So tell me, how does your Red Dog cards work high low? LOL
Go have a few more beers......:p

Starting Balance: $3500

Bets: .10 + .10 Bonus, $40 + $10 bonus
$.10 -

A6 - (j) Win
6A - (a) Lose
77 - (9) tie + bonus (3:1)
82 - (k) lose
T3 - (2) lose

$40 -
84 - (A) lose
J9 - (7) Lose
K9 - (A) lose
K5 - (K) lose
37 - (Q) Lose
oops, a 6th - Gonna keep on going till I win a hand
Q9 - (3) Lose
Q8 - (3) Lose
K8 - (J) Win
(9 losses in a row)

$.10

K6 - (K) Lose
QJ - Tie
J6 - (T) Win
Q4 - (9) Win
23 - Tie

$40

KK - (Q) tie + bonus (10:1)
AA - (5) tie + bonus (30:1)
24 - (3) win
Q7 - (4) Lose
23 - Tie

Ending Balance: $3539.20
 

babs7262

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Im confused

Arnt you ahead at the end? Its not alot but you didnt lose.
This game is a win or lose big game. I play it almost everyday and I either bottom out in 5 minutes or get to $6-$9k and last the whole hour on top of it. Like any other high varience. I have a love/hate relationship with this game
 

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Im confused

Arnt you ahead at the end? Its not alot but you didnt lose.
This game is a win or lose big game. I play it almost everyday and I either bottom out in 5 minutes or get to $6-$9k and last the whole hour on top of it. Like any other high varience. I have a love/hate relationship with this game
Yes, I was ahead...that's why I told him to go have some more beers. :)
 

RobWin

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Sorry can't help it! Anyone played Red Dog at 3dice casino? Even in tournament mode, which is free, is apparent! Play it, play minimum bet for 5 times, switch to max bet 5 times, switch to minimum bet 5 times, max bet 5 times, minimum 5 times, max 5 times...

Do this 10-15 times and respond to my post! I have a few beers now, I have noticed and by the way wanted to write about this for a week, however I couldn't help myself now since it was just to obvious!

I just saw my luck switch 10 times in a row, and every times not in my faviour! It's old news, but haha! HAHA!

It's free money, I do not care, thanks to christmas eve 3dice is the only casino I infact made money one in my lifetime (hence why I am terrified in depositing there), but seing the tournament go this way every time (!!) the last weeks I just had to write.

So tell me, how does your Red Dog cards work high low? LOL
It's not only Red Dog that you see those patterns in there Kimss, I have noticed a hell of a lot of these patterns over the last few months there and that is the very reason I requested my game log stats from 3Dice that I still have not received, so that I can compare them to my actual stats that I have recorded in excel over the past few months...it will be certainly interesting to see if Enzo's stats match up to my stats that I have kept...:D That is if he ever sends them to me...

I am almost to the point of believing that 3Dice can and does have their software setup to automatically tweak the outcomes of play there based on how many folks are currently playing in the casino at any given time...how much their current rake is at any given time based on the number of players actually playing in real mode and remember this is proprietary software, so anything is possible as far as programming it right...and the fact that there has never been an independent audit done of the overall players stats there...does make one wonder, doesn't it !!
 

kimss

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It's not only Red Dog that you see those patterns in there Kimss, I have noticed a hell of a lot of these patterns over the last few months there and that is the very reason I requested my game log stats from 3Dice that I still have not received,
Well, now I am done! I seriously have to pinch myself not to try for another tournament! I have been doing tournaments every day for the last weeks now, and especially a fast way to blow the money is casino war! Especially the few tournaments here and there where you can bet 300 as max!

Most tournaments has 50 max for the bet. 1 time, ONE time, in 2 weeks did I go from 2500 start balance to 3000 - then pretty straight down to 0.

The 300 max bets were all the same. If I start with max bet - I loose the 4 first and then up down 50/50 to you start doing 1 and 300 bets, magically you get bad luck. If I start with $1 I can have 8 wins in a row! Not one tournament with 300 max bet (3000 starting bets) did I accually go +3300. Straight to 0.

I know it's to few numbers, it's all random, and I just have bad luck! The fact remains, in atleast 2 weeks now I NEVER got the good side of the luck, I always (2-3 times a day!) get the - oooops bad luck - side of it!

Anyways, had to share, a long time since I was in here with my thoughts - I was in the background tournamenting and hoping to double the amount in casino war - just once - it's supposedly 50/50 I was told, even the wizard states so (but thats just theory my friends!)... LOL!

Anyways, I'm done now!
 

jas2587

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It's not only Red Dog that you see those patterns in there Kimss, I have noticed a hell of a lot of these patterns over the last few months there and that is the very reason I requested my game log stats from 3Dice that I still have not received, so that I can compare them to my actual stats that I have recorded in excel over the past few months...it will be certainly interesting to see if Enzo's stats match up to my stats that I have kept...:D That is if he ever sends them to me...

I am almost to the point of believing that 3Dice can and does have their software setup to automatically tweak the outcomes of play there based on how many folks are currently playing in the casino at any given time...how much their current rake is at any given time based on the number of players actually playing in real mode and remember this is proprietary software, so anything is possible as far as programming it right...and the fact that there has never been an independent audit done of the overall players stats there...does make one wonder, doesn't it !!
Wow Rob I thought you got your stats
When Enzo even took the time to
venture into the forum an say
oh Rob I sent you a PM

lol with Enzo we all know what I sent you a PM means
SS you havent gotten your stats yet

Cindy
 

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Wow Rob I thought you got your stats
When Enzo even took the time to
venture into the forum an say
oh Rob I sent you a PM

lol with Enzo we all know what I sent you a PM means
SS you havent gotten your stats yet

Cindy
he did....check the date on the above post....this thread sat dead for a couple weeks...
 

Pinababy69

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Wow Rob I thought you got your stats
When Enzo even took the time to
venture into the forum an say
oh Rob I sent you a PM

lol with Enzo we all know what I sent you a PM means
SS you havent gotten your stats yet

Cindy
Jas, considering you posted in this thread:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...onus-issues/27504-3dice-game-stat-logs-5.html

You know very well that he did get his stats, AND had them analyzed. Just couldn't resist that jab though right? I'm all for fairness in gaming, but that goes BOTH ways.

If/when 3Dice screws up, or doesn't treat someone properly...I'll be the first one to jump all over them. Until then, unfounded little digs are really unneccessary.

JMO.
 

jas2587

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well that is great he got his stats
it isnt dead if Kimss still post on it

you peeps sure lke to nit pick at every thread
its ya'lls way or no way eh?

or is it wanting to be top poster?

Cindy:notworthy
 

Pinababy69

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well that is great he got his stats
it isnt dead if Kimss still post on it

you peeps sure lke to nit pick at every thread
its ya'lls way or no way eh?

or is it wanting to be top poster?

Cindy:notworthy
Well, then why don't you base your replies on the CURRENT post (ie. Kimss post), and not one that's two weeks old?

It's not nitpicking when it's correcting a post that implies something not factual.
 

3Dice

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Hi Cindy,

It is often wise to check the date of a post before responding to it. This post, for example, is made just a few minutes after yours ..

Hi Kim,

You play a high-risk strategy in the tournaments, and that is often the best strategy to play them. With only one winner it doesn't matter if you can double or triple your bankroll, you'll still feel like not winning and most players will increase their risk to be able to catch up with the tournament leaders. As a result, many sessions will end with bankroll 0, and only the occasional lucky one will put you in a spot where you are difficult to catch.

Some of our special tournaments try to counter this a bit (e.g. near-win tournaments, or totalstake tournaments), but in the regular ones you should expect victory to often go to players that take extreme risks - and get lucky. With e.g. 50 players in an average VIP tournament, you should expect on average not to win more than 1 in 50 of them, and longer dry sequences are perfectly natural. (no fun - but part of the risk)

As to your pattern recognizing abilities - it is human nature to recognize and find repetitions - even if they are not there. A true random sequence is one that contains every imaginable pattern at some point - your view on this does suggest your a good analyst/programmer - but in this case your reasoning should really focus on the fact that the games already have a house edge, why would a programmer go to any extra (and a lot of extra if I read your suggestions) to end up at the same result ?

Good luck if you play more tourney's !

Enzo
 

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What happened to the tournaments where you started with $10 and the winner was the one that wagered the most? Do you still have those? I think that one was the best of all....it actually required a good amount of skill and strategy....and of course luck, but not as much.
 

jas2587

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Hi Cindy,

It is often wise to check the date of a post before responding to it. This post, for example, is made just a few minutes after yours ..

Hi Kim,

You play a high-risk strategy in the tournaments, and that is often the best strategy to play them. With only one winner it doesn't matter if you can double or triple your bankroll, you'll still feel like not winning and most players will increase their risk to be able to catch up with the tournament leaders. As a result, many sessions will end with bankroll 0, and only the occasional lucky one will put you in a spot where you are difficult to catch.

Some of our special tournaments try to counter this a bit (e.g. near-win tournaments, or totalstake tournaments), but in the regular ones you should expect victory to often go to players that take extreme risks - and get lucky. With e.g. 50 players in an average VIP tournament, you should expect on average not to win more than 1 in 50 of them, and longer dry sequences are perfectly natural. (no fun - but part of the risk)

As to your pattern recognizing abilities - it is human nature to recognize and find repetitions - even if they are not there. A true random sequence is one that contains every imaginable pattern at some point - your view on this does suggest your a good analyst/programmer - but in this case your reasoning should really focus on the fact that the games already have a house edge, why would a programmer go to any extra (and a lot of extra if I read your suggestions) to end up at the same result ?

Good luck if you play more tourney's !

Enzo
Enzo you are correct on checking dates I can admit I was wrong
an I was On Rob's stats (((him recieving them)))
People do forget things as we get older an I will double check for now on
I do apoligize
Cindy
 

kimss

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As to your pattern recognizing abilities - it is human nature to recognize and find repetitions - even if they are not there. A true random sequence is one that contains every imaginable pattern at some point - your view on this does suggest your a good analyst/programmer - but in this case your reasoning should really focus on the fact that the games already have a house edge, why would a programmer go to any extra (and a lot of extra if I read your suggestions) to end up at the same result ?
Howdy Enzo! Just wanted fair to be fair! I borrowed the account to my neightbour and thought I'd give it a final test!

So I fired up an Excel excel spreadsheet, and did the calculations from spin to spin and what do you know. I managed to work the balance from 3000 to 8207 in 400 hands. (However currect tournament needs like 40.000 so I have not got the time for that work for $5, :) Could me my brain is not that accurate, a spreadsheet however is.

I guess this post nullifies my other posts here then. I will do some spreadsheet gambling a few more times before settling this!

Edit: With settling, I mean settling my opinion! And also - I am way ahead in my 3Dice account - so It is still the only casino I accually won in! To bad I'm terrified wagering more there, :D better safe than sorry, lol.
 

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Howdy Enzo! Just wanted fair to be fair! I borrowed the account to my neightbour and thought I'd give it a final test!

So I fired up an Excel excel spreadsheet, and did the calculations from spin to spin and what do you know. I managed to work the balance from 3000 to 8207 in 400 hands. (However currect tournament needs like 40.000 so I have not got the time for that work for $5, :) Could me my brain is not that accurate, a spreadsheet however is.

I guess this post nullifies my other posts here then. I will do some spreadsheet gambling a few more times before settling this!

Edit: With settling, I mean settling my opinion! And also - I am way ahead in my 3Dice account - so It is still the only casino I accually won in! To bad I'm terrified wagering more there, :D better safe than sorry, lol.
Check the other thread where Rob posted the results of his play logs......I'm sure you'll be surprised of the outcome...
 

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