New Slot Announcement Really Wild, A Dark Matter, 9k Yeti, Ice Wolf and more..

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Ice Wolf by Elk Studios - keep this one frozen!
9k Yeti by Yggdrasil - looks odd but I like it!
Really Wild by Novomatic - scraped off my shoe.
A Dark Matter by MG/Slongshit Studios - Granny Immortal Romance, okay-ish
Monopoly Megaways by BTG - A little taster, you'll get the full video next week!


 

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Monopoly Megaways could end up being the best thing they've done since Bonanza, if fully realized

A good licence-acquisition, no doubting that one!
 

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OMG Really Wild "stole" the sounds of the good old Random Runners that were very popular back in the days in The Netherlands, one of the first quite volatile games on the market back then.
Dutch players will recognize this sound right away.

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Yes agree, 9k Yeti looks like fun but I think it will be also quite volatile like most Ygdrassil slots are.
 

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Thanks for the video, glad you liked it.

Like I said on YouTube - shame the K was not a Yeti, although 216x in the base game and 74x in the bonus is not bad ;)

It's live now on BWin, Part Casino and GVC's other brands - going full network release on 14th November.

Just so you know though we are an independent games studio, this game is just on the Yggdrasil platform, we have a thread about us here on Casinomesiter:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/4theplayer-com-intro.88903/
Also, the Win Frequency diagram means there are lots of Big, Bonus and Epic wins - as you saw a bit of in the video.

Hope the cats didn't make too much mess!!
 
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trancemonkey

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Thanks for the video, glad you liked it.

Like I said on YouTube - shame the K was not a Yeti, although 216x in the base game and 74x in the bonus is not bad ;)

It's live now on BWin, Part Casino and GVC's other brands - going full network release on 14th November.

Just so you know though we are an independent games studio, this game is just on the Yggdrasil platform, we have a thread about us here on Casinomesiter:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/4theplayer-com-intro.88903/
Also, the Win Frequency diagram means there are lots of Big, Bonus and Epic wins - as you saw a bit of in the video.

Hope the cats didn't make too much mess!!

That's not how I read the frequency diagram. I read it as the win frequency was very frequent, and the big win, epic win and bonuses were very rare.

Because if lots of arrows means something is very frequent, then your (any) win frequency would be extremely low. Which clearly doesnt make sense.

You also have the same number of arrows for BIG and EPIC, and I can all but guarantee that the chance of getting either one of those is not identical. So unless i am missing something this is also misleading and unclear.

And if I can't figure them out, I would argue that they are very confusing!
 
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@sufferinsilence Thank you. I have to agree that doesn't really make much sense - at least not to me. I'm guessing if those diagrams were representative then anything not a win wouldn't really work from a scale point of view.

@4ThePlayer-com Just a thought - have you ever considered going full disclosure on odds for everything or significant events i.e free spins, reaching the top of the mountain, certain win ranges? Just for the win did something similar I believe. If you wouldn't want to share those details - what would be your reasoning?

I appreciate you may not want to answer those questions but if it's an open dialogue then no harm is asking.
 

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Thanks for the video, glad you liked it.

Like I said on YouTube - shame the K was not a Yeti, although 216x in the base game and 74x in the bonus is not bad ;)

It's live now on BWin, Part Casino and GVC's other brands - going full network release on 14th November.

Just so you know though we are an independent games studio, this game is just on the Yggdrasil platform, we have a thread about us here on Casinomesiter:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/4theplayer-com-intro.88903/
Also, the Win Frequency diagram means there are lots of Big, Bonus and Epic wins - as you saw a bit of in the video.

Hope the cats didn't make too much mess!!

I cant see the game on Bwins Swedish site.
Not regulated for swedish market?
 

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That's not how I read the frequency diagram. I read it as the win frequency was very frequent, and the big win, epic win and bonuses were very rare.

Because if lots of arrows means something is very frequent, then your (any) win frequency would be extremely low. Which clearly doesnt make sense.

You also have the same number of arrows for BIG and EPIC, and I can all but guarantee that the chance of getting either one of those is not identical. So unless i am missing something this is also misleading and unclear.

And if I can't figure them out, I would argue that they are very confusing!
The clear suggestion there (although not certainly, depending on the RTP allocation to the feature) is that the average bonus return is less than an 'epic' or 'mega' win. My play, albeit only a few k spins, would suggest that could well be the case.

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I appreciate the extra info 4TP provide but the arrows are misleading - assuming 2 arrows is 1/5.2 then 10 arrows for the 'big' win would be to scale every 26 spins, not 77 as stated. I would get rid of those arrows and simply use the correct stats.
 

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The clear suggestion there (although not certainly, depending on the RTP allocation to the feature) is that the average bonus return is less than an 'epic' or 'mega' win. My play, albeit only a few k spins, would suggest that could well be the case.

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But those figures dont correlate at all to the loading screen graph then...
 

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100x Epic Win? :D Come on guys... That should be atleast 200x to call something epic, and that's on the low side of things. 1/142 to get a bonus isn't too bad tho.
 

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Thanks for your feedback!

Sorry if you find them misleading our main goal was to give more information to players than other slot games do. Note: we also provide exact numbers in the help file which i've copied at the bottom.

We provided arrows for each category of win to show how frequent these types of wins occur vs other slots, given the history of stats we have on other slots.

Hence ANY wins occur less than other slots but BIG and EPIC occur more. The plan was as we release more games you could see how they played compared to each other.

Of course in slots EPIC wins occur less than BIG and ANY wins is ANY win. If we measured win frequency on same scale then EPIC arrows would be 1/200th the size of ANY, and you wouldn't be able to see any arrow.

We wanted people to see ANY win low dark red, and know ANY win will happen less often that another slot, contributing to higher volatility experience. EPIC and BIG red they happen more often than slots also contributing to high volatility, where as BONUS frequency is a little above median which is yellow because that brings overall volatility towards medium. Overall it is a volatile slot where you get less wins than normal, but more BIG and EPICs and the bonus frequency is not that out there.

However, it is clear we need to rethink and review how we can communicate the stats in an easy to read graphic better!! Lets us think on alternatives....

FYI the more details stats which you can find in the help file:

Average Spins To Win:
Any Win: 5.2
Big Win (15x): 77
Free Spins Bonus Win: 142
Epic Win (100x): 1044
 

trancemonkey

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Thanks for your feedback!

Sorry if you find them misleading our main goal was to give more information to players than other slot games do. Note: we also provide exact numbers in the help file which i've copied at the bottom.

We provided arrows for each category of win to show how frequent these types of wins occur vs other slots, given the history of stats we have on other slots.

Hence ANY wins occur less than other slots but BIG and EPIC occur more. The plan was as we release more games you could see how they played compared to each other.

Of course in slots EPIC wins occur less than BIG and ANY wins is ANY win. If we measured win frequency on same scale then EPIC arrows would be 1/200th the size of ANY, and you wouldn't be able to see any arrow.

We wanted people to see ANY win low dark red, and know ANY win will happen less often that another slot, contributing to higher volatility experience. EPIC and BIG red they happen more often than slots also contributing to high volatility, where as BONUS frequency is a little above median which is yellow because that brings overall volatility towards medium. Overall it is a volatile slot where you get less wins than normal, but more BIG and EPICs and the bonus frequency is not that out there.

However, it is clear we need to rethink and review how we can communicate the stats in an easy to read graphic better!! Lets us think on alternatives....

FYI the more details stats which you can find in the help file:

Average Spins To Win:
Any Win: 5.2
Big Win (15x): 77
Free Spins Bonus Win: 142
Epic Win (100x): 1044
Like what you're trying to do...
We often have discussions about this internally too...
But its really not clear how you have done it..
 

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I thought the arrows were pretty obviously showing what you intended (comparatively more big wins and epics but also more deadspins) so I don't think everyone is as confused as the people in thread.

That said, without the real stats, or potentially a long archieve of 4TP games which always had the same total amount of arrows available, it rings kind of hollow. Like the thought though! Might be worth just putting the real stats on there.
 
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