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Random Jackpots with a "Must Hit By" feature.

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by takethemoney, Jan 4, 2010.

    Jan 4, 2010
  1. takethemoney

    takethemoney Banned User - Chargebacks at Slotastic

    Location:
    Washington
    I've been thinking of how to make the possibility of hitting an RJ at least more predictable in one sense. Keeping them random, why couldn't the software also include a top end must hit by $xxxxx feature? I understand they could be still be hit at any time, but this feature would also keep the serious player from chasing the false hope that hitting a random is just around the corner, as he / she deposits their last few dollars, duped into thinking this is a possibility. I've been guilty of thinking one is going to hit any time and pouring deposit and deposit in going for it. Normally because I was around last time and saw where it hit. Problem is, it hit at $6000 last time, now it's up over $8000 this time. Who knows if it's going to 10k, 15k, 20k?

    I think it would be positive for the casinos that offer it too, since when that top end is near, people would be playing like crazy. Am I nuts for thinking this is a good idea? Are there any online slots where USA can play that offer this?
     
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  2. Jan 4, 2010
  3. eu_lowroller

    eu_lowroller Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Call Center Agent
    Location:
    Austria
    I think also, that this is really a very good idea and i think that it's surely possible to make such an option, because now we have also a feature guarantee slot after at latest 150 spins, so the same could be done on Random Jackpots, i think ;)
    But the serious question is, if RTG or the casinos want such an option?
     
  4. Jan 4, 2010
  5. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    IT Director of Operations
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    Left Hungary
    takethemoney, this has already been suggested by me a long time ago (a few months maybe?) and I was told by the "in the know" people that if RTG did this, then it truly wouldn't be random at all...DUH!! I tried this angle already, maybe you can have better luck since most of my suggestions/experiences is always thrown to the wayside and ignored by many anyway..

    I think it is a great idea too! Glad there are some others thnking the same..

    .
     
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  6. Jan 4, 2010
  7. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    A great idea:thumbsup: but it will never happen:(..........laurie
     
  8. Jan 4, 2010
  9. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    The biG Eu
    I think the part which I bolded up above is the reason why this kind of feature would not happen. From a casinos point of view thats exactly what they want you to do. Such is gambling. For myself on the rare times I do play an RTG with A Random, I never really look at. And have never chased an RJ apart from 1 time to the tune of 100 or so bucks before I got my senses back and quit the play session.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2010
  11. Scooter7

    Scooter7 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Gaming
    Location:
    Toronto
    I have to say this is not a well thought-out plan.
    Let's say the jackpot must hit if it reaches 10k. Why would anyone bother playing until it was nearly there? And what about multiple accounts? People are complaining right now in another thread about a MG tournament where someone placed first and second. Don't you think those multi-account players would have all guns blazing as the jackpot neared its guaranteed trigger point? In an industry where integrity is constantly questioned (sometimes rightly and sometimes not), the concept of the casino being able to flip the switch on a jackpot is definitely counter-productive to fostering trust from the players.
     
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  12. Jan 4, 2010
  13. Wildfire7

    Wildfire7 Dormant account

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    The only rational explanation why a player would want to see this introduced is because he has unrealistic expectations of hitting a RJ in the first place.

    With the RJ odds stacked massively against you, they should never be chased, or looked at as if they were like hitting 5 scatters. The chance of hitting one and of being in the right place at the right time is very remote, so remote that many players might never hit one in a lifetime of play.

    Your idea, whether good or bad won't benefit you the player in any way at all.
    By all means chase the dream, but be realistic in the fact thats all it may turn out to be......a dream.

    Mike
     
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  14. Jan 4, 2010
  15. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    Wildfire7, I guess your glass is always half empty huh?

    .
     
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  16. Jan 4, 2010
  17. takethemoney

    takethemoney Banned User - Chargebacks at Slotastic

    Location:
    Washington
    Mike, I've hit 4 RJs in a month before. I spent exactly $200 in deposits doing so. It hit Sunken Treasure for over $10k, Diamond Dozen for over $20k and Mystic Dragon for over $10k at Cherry Red, then turned around and hit Mystic Dragon at Casino Titan for over $6k. I have seen jackpots in the B&Ms that have a must hit by feature as well as mini jackpot features.

    I won them on purpose, as that is what I play Real Series slots for. I scan every casino I play and only pick the highest RJs to play. So far it's worked out well in my favor.
     
  18. Jan 4, 2010
  19. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    In the Beautiful South !!

    Well hells bells and shotgun shells, i know what ive been doing wrong NOW:eek:........laurie
     
  20. Jan 4, 2010
  21. Wildfire7

    Wildfire7 Dormant account

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    Considering all the negativity and doom and gloom surrounding RTG I find it astonishing that here is one RTG player who just cannot stop winning!

    Perhaps now your secret is out, your luck might rub off on all the other RTG players, and we can start seeing the winner screenshots jammed packed with them.

    Mike
     
  22. Jan 4, 2010
  23. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    I too have seen this and that was why I suggested it a while ago...
    I too used to do this 90% of the time but never had the luck..
    There is an increase in winners screenshots since all the doom and gloom and complaining from the few that have been questioning what has happened to these casinos in the last few months or have you not noticed this recently??

    Hopefully you are right...because I believe there will be a lot more winner screen shots coming along...due to the casinos maybe thinking of starting to loosen the slots again.. (wishful thinking)
    .
     
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  24. Jan 4, 2010
  25. love2winalot

    love2winalot Dormant account

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    Philippines/Visiting Las vegas
    Hiya. Station Casino's here in Vegas have the, "Must hit by" feature. The machines are linked between all their Casino's in Town. However, they do not promote what the, "Must Hit By" Feature, until it gets kind of close to it.

    "Current Progressive is at $12,450, Must hit by $15,000." Yes, there are Teams, who will flood the Casino's when this happens, and will be on as many of the featured slots as possible. The bad thing is that, "They" have a greater chance to win than, YOU do. On the other hand, "They" are raising the Pot faster then normal, and thus YOU will end up putting in less money before it actually does hit".

    By changing the type of slot used, and not advertising it until it gets close, is the key to keeping ALL the slots running and bringing in close to the normal amount of money. This is also a way to get the, "Non" slot player to play slots once in a while.
     
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  26. Jan 5, 2010
  27. Mavin1

    Mavin1 Dormant account

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    It would be excellent if online casinos did this, it would attract more players and keep them longer in my opinion. Randoms that just go on forever can also discourage many players as it can be perceived by the majority of players that it is just an impossible situation or it really isn't won by real people when it's gets to monster amounts.
    Having a must hit does not diminish the randomness of it, as the player that does win will be random.
    Casinos should try to have half as, must hit and leave the other half as is and see if there is a difference in loyalty.
     
  28. Jan 5, 2010
  29. gloria460

    gloria460 Meister Member

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    Florida
    I'm of the opposite mind. I see those large randoms and only play about 10-20 spins and move on. I really wished they would get rid of them all together but hey if they did that they wouldn't have anyone playing or maybe just maybe the slots would be fun...anywhoo..
     
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  30. Jan 5, 2010
  31. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    Northern hemisphere
    Hi I hit two random jackpots and Jackpot Capital in less than 10 days both were for around 6K, each time I had started with 100% deposit match and deposited between $80 to $90. The sessions went really well and when I was pretty close to the WR I upped my bet from $1 to $2 for fun. I really wasn't trying to get the RJ as I always thought that would elude me forever. I was thinking if I get a feature I could get some nice coin and thats all and then lo and behold jackpot. Its just a matter to be spinning the reels at the right place and at the right time. I don't think there is any strategy invloved just dumb luck. I really would love to win the RJ when I deposit but what I am really thinking is to get a decent return on my deposit and get to cashout. Its kinda like buying a lottery ticket, if I spend $1 and win $10 then heck I'm a winner and am happy although to win the lottery would be awesome. its all about lady luck sometimes she smiles at you but most times she spits!
     
  32. Jan 5, 2010
  33. takethemoney

    takethemoney Banned User - Chargebacks at Slotastic

    Location:
    Washington
    LOL. I could have just as easily lost that $200. At Cherry Red I played with a 200% VIP bonus on a $100 deposit. I was getting ready for bed and had the machine playing on autoplay with $1 bet on Sunken Treasure. I looked over and right as my balance was going to be $230 the jackpot started flashing. I finished making the playthru, then I cashed out $8000 (4000 x 2 installments) and kept about $2500 in play.

    I had that running on autoplay for two or three days - don't remember, on Diamond Dozen. My wife awakened me in the morning and said it looks like I'd hit another Jackpot....20 grand this time.

    The third there came a couple days later playing Mystic Dragon. I was just thinking of playing something else when it hit for over 10 grand. Do I know how to hit them? No. I think if you can stick around you have a good chance, especially if you can hit one, cashout a sizeable sum and keep rolling for quite some time.

    Now, has Cherry Red been nice to me since then? Nope. I've deposited 3 times and it has been tighter than tight, almost as if the software knows what I did and it is out for revenge. Not a chance I will give it back there!;)

    On the Mystic Dragon win at Casino Titan, I set the machine on autoplay with a 75c bet and went out shopping with my wife. We returned home to win over $6000. I don't really play the slots much, but they do play themselves a lot. I pretty much just set em and check in on them once in awhile.

    Do I like RTG slots in general? Heck no! The reason is that you get so few good hits just in normal play these days. They are way tighter, overall, for the average guy that just wants to deposit $100 and stand a chance of winning a few hundred to a grand. Way worse bonus rounds, farther between them, etc. Also, I don't know when the last time I had 5 scatters or 5 of anything big.
     
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  34. Jan 6, 2010
  35. eu_lowroller

    eu_lowroller Non-Gambler

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    Call Center Agent
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    Austria
    with normal/slow or turbo/fast play mode? ;)
     
  36. Jan 6, 2010
  37. takethemoney

    takethemoney Banned User - Chargebacks at Slotastic

    Location:
    Washington

    I never play turbo. I think it's too fast and if you are on a losing streak it just goes way too fast. The casino probably loves this feature though. :D

    There are actually 3 modes.
    1. Sound off - reels spin slower
    2. Sound on - reels spin faster
    3. Turbo on - reels very fast and bankroll goes even faster ;)
     
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  38. Jan 6, 2010
  39. eu_lowroller

    eu_lowroller Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Call Center Agent
    Location:
    Austria
    Very interesting, because i always thought that the Random Jackpot can only be won from a Fast Mode player, because he can make 5 times more spins in the same time, as a normal mode player so i thought the cahnce is also 5 time greater ;)

    But now you gaved me the hope, that we can also win the RJ with the normal play and a longer playtime :)

    Although, if i use a bonus and since i'm a lowrolller, i always play in fast mode, because otherwise i have to play fpr days to clear my playthrough and if i lost my balance without fulfilling the WR, i would be angry with myself, because i've also wasted so much time for nothing *lol* :D
     

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