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Your Input Please Raging Bull - You need to sort this.

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by dunover, Aug 29, 2015.

    Aug 29, 2015
  1. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    I tried to access any RG settings and close my account. (Basically the way these RTG games play they are clearly a lower RTP setting, just don't enjoy them.)



    Raging Bull - You need to sort this.: xzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.jpg,Aug 29, 2015




    P.S. Was kept waiting for 25 minutes at the end, obviously hoping I'd debunk after getting fed up waiting for them to answer my 'awkward' question. Which I did. P!ss-poor.
     
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  2. Aug 29, 2015
  3. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    I closed my account a while back with these guys. Jason did sort it within minutes no questions asked. So that was good. They are lacking though self automated functions to close/ limit your account like most netent casinos have built in. But not sure of any RTG casinos that have this built it.

    But agree the CS should have done this for you without question.

    I tried RTG again yesterday. Was horrible. 6 bonus rounds on 6 different games all paid less than 10 x bet. I forget how bad RTG can play when set on the lowest RTP. Thank god it was just a micro deposit.

    But sure hope they do the right thing and close it down as per your request. And im pretty sure Jason when he sees this will assist really fast.
     
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  4. Aug 30, 2015
  5. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    I'll be right with you.
     
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  6. Aug 30, 2015
  7. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    rtg

    is the rtp set decently anywhere ?
     
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  8. Aug 30, 2015
  9. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    I don't know, as it's rare for me to play RTG. Having spent years playing MG/Netent etc. on 95-97% I know the difference in gameplay and duration of playtime between slots of those returns and those of less.

    Remember ask yourselves why RTG will nearly always have a 100-250% daily bonus for you whereas MG/Netent/WMS/IGT sites will seldom (aside from SUBS) have one at all, or an occasional limited-amount 50% or a rare limited-amount 100%?

    The simple answer is the math. If you are playing slots of less than 95% RTP and are taking 100%+ bonuses which need playing through 50-70 times you will seldom if ever cash-out. As soon as you take a bonus, you are effectively 'playing for fun'. When I hear these posts by American players (there's one in the 'help stop reversing' thread yesterday where a player has played at a casino for 2 years and has made their first w/d!!) claiming to have made tens of deposits without a w/d I now, having played RTG, know they're being straight.

    KK has mentioned a 97% model for RTG sites. Let me say it may be used for the 'hook' of a new player NDB chip, but as long as you've got a hole in your a$$ a 97% RTG site would NEVER be offering daily bonuses of 100%+ as it would be suicidal for them.

    I feel sorry the majority of US states who can only play many RTG sites.
     
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  10. Aug 30, 2015
  11. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
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    Northants
    Didn't Jason say they was implementing the SE / Close account etc? Maybe the CS cannot do this? Which is not good if they can not and should just say this, That hold on a minute is joke, but they may have been trying to contact the right department or just putting the kettle on,

    Any way I know how you feel, Its like win decent or no win, I no thats the story across any provider but RTG are something else, Bonus round after bonus round and x3 stake back is not good, They are money crunchers, I must admit I had a few decent hits and managed a few small withdraws and that 700$ withdraw
    I can deposit 25 with 50 bonus and gone, Next day same and next day same over the weekend, Some times the 50 for 100 free GONE, not much for your buck I am afraid,
    Will not see anythink of me this weekend / bank holiday as moneys tight and I said I am giving a rest from deposit for a bit,


    I only play the main providers also but if I have some spare change that can afford than I will have a shout at RTG (ragingbull) Is only one I play, It makes a change and as I am the unluckiest gambler at the moment than it does not matter where I play as the outcome is the same,

    The main thing is there is a decent rep on board, Live chat that always answers, Maybe canot do every think right or they just canot do it but count on one hand who can, Ok payout time and no worry about payment, Not allowed games are blocked, Not many do that, There is a cap etc if taking bonus but rules and terms are prety clear,

    Could you let us no if Jason has seen the thread Dun :)
     
  12. Aug 30, 2015
  13. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Registered an account with them last week. Took the 300% bonus with a deposit of $21. RTP was excellent till I reached 70% of playthrough then my balance slid from $500+ to slightly more than $200 till it somewhat stabilised. Was playing min stakes on practically every game. Cashed out $240 which is great considering the game time.

    Dunno about their payout times though. Deposited by ecopayz but they sent me a verification form for deposits by credit card. Anyway it was fun and I never expected to cashout with such an enormous playthrough..
     
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  14. Aug 30, 2015
  15. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    Northants
    I should not worry to much about the form if not using card, Jason said this should not matter, If he sees the post he will let you know, Well done on win
     
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  16. Aug 31, 2015
  17. hedgehok

    hedgehok Meister Member mm3

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    I'd like to know from the rep (Jason) which RTP setting is used at RB. Hope he's around today.
     
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  18. Aug 31, 2015
  19. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    Since you don't play RTG much, let me clarify a few things as a experienced user.

    First off most reputable/accredited RTG's don't offer many 100% or greater bonuses. Mostly you will find 50-75% with occasional 100%. Most 100% or greater bonuses I see are normally offered by rogues other than a large welcome bonus at a reputable.

    Most Playthrough is 25x Bonus-Deposit and if a 100% bonus is offered you will see it get up to 35x.

    RTP settings are typically not as transparent,yes indeed we have all heard of the 3 settings at RTG. Need to keep in mind almost all games have a random where a portion of it goes to Random Jackpot, so in reality how high of an RTP can they set? And if they have it at 97% do they then deduct 2% to contribute to the Random Jackpot? Either way I believe the Random's do truly have a huge impact on RTP in the long run.

    Overall you said you were leaving them because RTP seems low. Im not sure how long you have played there, but I know from theses posts I hasn't been long, so there really isn't an accurate snapshot of RTP. Now regardless of that I do think its a smart move to move away from this casino because of the max cashout on bonuses. It gets to a point where the deposits will outweigh any withdrawal because of the cap on the amount you could withdraw if you ever had a large win.

    On your original problem of closing your account, I know of no options within the casino that allows you to close your account. I do know that with most RTG you have to email the casino to request a close. I assume I has to do with security. You have casino running go to bathroom wife jumps on chat says close account. Email registered to account is more secure, but chat should implement at least 24 hour close.
     
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  20. Aug 31, 2015
  21. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Slightly disappointed. They sent me an authorization form but stated it was not required if deposits were not made by credit card. Now after the cashout pending period lapsed they declined the cashout and requested verification docs. The request for docs is ok but the timing certainly wasnt.
     
  22. Sep 2, 2015
  23. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    oh look BMW defending RTG again. Id like to be shocked but im not.

    RTG is absolute shit...and there is a reason why 95% of the posters say it. Its garbage and the RTP is a disgrace.
     
  24. Sep 2, 2015
  25. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    Are you ok today? Defending RTG Again :what: You may have me confused with someone else. I cleared up for Dunover how RTG works. I am the one who has been on a mission to continually point out that Raging Bull is a bad deal on bonuses. I also specifically said that the RTP is unknown and specifically the Random Jackpots make it a really bad deal.

    Before you go taking personal shots you should have your facts straight.
     
  26. Sep 3, 2015
  27. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    Absolutely not true. I have recently received bonus offers of 100%, 110% and 200% from listed accredited RTG casinos right on here, so what you say is not true. Please get your facts right before claiming "rogue" status on any casino offering bonuses over 50-75%.

    .
     
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  28. Sep 3, 2015
  29. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Silc,

    I think you missed the word 'normally'.
     
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  30. Sep 3, 2015
  31. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    You should really re read what you are commenting before coming out swinging with the "get your facts right", but mistranslate my statement into something completely different by saying I claim rogue status on any casino over 75%.

    I wrote most and normally. I did not say ALL casinos.
     
  32. Sep 3, 2015
  33. cjh1969

    cjh1969 Experienced Member MM

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    Milwaukee- USA
    SlotsPlus slot bonus

    I know that Slotsplus (Main Street Group) has a 300% bonus match for slots only. Playthrough is 30X- I made some $27 deposits- got $108 to play with and actually cashed out $700- Made 5 deposits before I hit anything. The only drawback is that it usually takes about 2 weeks to get cashiers check. I have always been paid by Main Street casinos and their bonuses are better than other RTG sites. They have been around for quite some time but it is an option if you want to play some slots.
     
  34. Sep 3, 2015
  35. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    How often can you take the 300% bonus? I know one of the clubworld group casinos also had a monthly 200%, maybe manhattan or aladdins.
     
  36. Sep 4, 2015
  37. cjh1969

    cjh1969 Experienced Member MM

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    Sorry for the delay in answering your question. I was able to get the 300% slots match 5 times a day. I bet $27 got $81 for the bonus for a total of $108- playthrough was $3240 or 30X deposit + bonus. I also like that bonus money is not subtracted from win total. I don't know if everyone gets this offer and if my player ranking gets me the 30X playthrough. Good luck.
     
  38. Sep 7, 2015
  39. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    No, I didn't miss the word "normally. I believe BMWSTACK stated something that is wrong. The only casino I see offering less than 100% in the accredited section is Clubworld group. That is NOT normal for a goup this size. Yet, BMWSTACK claims this is "normal"
    Any others offering more than this should be considered "rogues" by BMWSTACK's statement. Bad wording...on BMWSTACK's part. I can list 10 casinos I receive over 100% that are not on "rogue" status and many are accredited. But yet BMWSTACK states only rogues usually (normally) offer this.... This is in reply to BMWSTACK's private message....
     
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