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Quick question about rtg casinos

Discussion in 'America the Beautiful' started by Savatage79, Jan 4, 2018.

    Jan 4, 2018
  1. Savatage79

    Savatage79 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Contractor
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    So there's the bovada type casinos, ignition, slots lv etc... They all have pretty much the same games. Then there are the rtg setup sites like inetbet, cherry jackpot, uptown aces, casino extreme etc....but alot of games aren't on bovada like cash bandits, nova 7s, paydirt etc...

    I really like the rtg lists on both groups but why does it seem all these other rtg groups have the same games when they aren't all connected?

    But then there are shared games on them all like aladdins wishes, goldbeard, Aztec and some others.

    Basically for me what I've noticed is I do best in bovada so far... But the games they have I don't find as fun as the rtg games on other rtg sites.

    I can't do good anywhere else it seems except bovada, that's why I wish some of those games were there as I really enjoy them. I'm sure it's licensing but it just seems like all other rtg sites have the same list and I'd bovada has the rights to rtg you'd think that we'd see more of those games I mentioned on their sites.
     
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  2. Jan 4, 2018
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    It's been mentioned several times on the forum recently, that the Bodog, Bovada etc group bought the full rights to some RTG slots a long time ago. i.e. they own them outright and do not operate the same way as any other RTG powered casinos, who run their games from the RTG server.
    That's why they have a limited selection and no new games.

    KK
     
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  4. Mar 11, 2018
  5. luck17

    luck17 Full Member PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Freelance
    Location:
    USA
    Really? So Ignition, part of this group as well, controls those RTG slot games, which would include total control over RTP and RNG for those slots as well??
     
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  6. Mar 11, 2018
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    RTP yes.
    Though it is widely believed that they probably run with the original factory middle setting from when the games were first produced = 95% for most, with just a couple at 94%

    Many, many years ago I gained access to the original data sheets for their early slots, and included the settings in a table on one of my websites:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    This page is nearly up-to-date with their newest slots (as is my Rival page) - but please disregard anything else on the site as most of it is appallingly out-of-date :oops:
    (My other sites have been taking up all my time for several years now).

    I'm always a bit confused when people start taking about "controlling the RNG" :what:
    To my understanding this can't be controlled - all it does is pick a random number between 0-X.
    What the game's software chooses to do with that number is the only important bit. e.g. if the software were rigged, it could be programmed to discard a winning number and pick again. But that isn't "controlling the RNG".

    KK
     
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  8. Mar 12, 2018
  9. luck17

    luck17 Full Member PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Freelance
    Location:
    USA
    Wow!! Thank you so much for that link to your data sheet. It is very informative, and interesting to see.

    You should have this posted to an article on Casionomeister.com, as a lot of players would love to see this data.
     
  10. Mar 12, 2018
  11. luck17

    luck17 Full Member PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Freelance
    Location:
    USA
    Would you send a link to your Rival page please...if possible?

    Ignition has a lot of Rival Slots, and just about 20 RTG ones but your data was great for them!! Ignition also has Spinomenal and NetBet.

    In your first sentence above, when you referred to "THEY" did you mean Ignition/Bovada/Bodog??

    Thank you again!!
     
  12. Mar 12, 2018
  13. luck17

    luck17 Full Member PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Freelance
    Location:
    USA
    Never mind about the other link as I am on your website now....
     
  14. Mar 12, 2018
  15. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Yes, all their casinos = those 3 and Slots.LV as well.
    Because they don't accept UK players I haven't actually tried playing at their sites myself - but I believe all their casinos use the same softwares.

    And yes, my Rival page is here: You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Rival DO publish the TRTP of their games - it's in the "Help" screen of each one.
    Please note though - that they have changed the RTP of some games in the past, and I haven't run through and re-checked all the older ones, so there is a possibility that some % figures on my site might not be the current RTP.

    KK
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2018
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  16. Mar 14, 2018
  17. luck17

    luck17 Full Member PABnononaccred

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    Freelance
    Location:
    USA
    Your website is AWESOME!! Thank you so much!!

    What is your opinion on Ignition Casino??
     
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  18. Mar 14, 2018
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Thanks!
    Like I said above - cos I'm in the UK I can't actually play at Ignition myself :(
    But from an advertising point of view I can tell you that are the #1 most popular casino on my websites :thumbsup:
    I have referred loads of players to them and had not one single complaint - so I guess they're all pretty happy!

    I am actually just starting a review of Ignition to make sure the details on my sites are correct etc. If you have any feedback on them (or any other casino I list) I would love to hear it.

    Cheers,
    KK
     
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  20. Mar 14, 2018
  21. luck17

    luck17 Full Member PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Freelance
    Location:
    USA
    I really liked ignition casino when i started playing last October, and by the end of 2017 I was very satisfied. I was down about $1200 but that was fine as I had some nice wins and casino slots were fun to play. Since the start of 2018, something has changed at Ignition. It seems that the RTP has been lowered significantly, as I have lost about 80% of my deposits (over $4k)on the slots that used to play more evenly.

    Over the last week I have learned that Igntion is not regulated anymore, and they do not list RTP for any slot games. I inquired about this as the iTechlab certificate only confirms they have a RNG, doesn’ Validate that the slots payout fairly. When I asked about this on chat here are the replies I recieved (please see two images).

    https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/img_0272-jpg.89136/


    https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/img_0273-jpg.89138/
     

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